Deandre Hopkins Suspended Six Games

[bankybruce]

I still cannot fully latch on to dumping on Hopkins because if I were to screw up my knee, well I will probably be getting some kind of steroid shot. I do not see Hopkins getting that 'PED' to outperform his opponent, but to simply be able to walk and rehab. Just seems to me totally ironic that in the most physical sport on the planet players cannot get what the average citizen can get

Well said!

 

[BigRedRage]

I still cannot fully latch on to dumping on Hopkins because if I were to screw up my knee, well I will probably be getting some kind of steroid shot. I do not see Hopkins getting that 'PED' to outperform his opponent, but to simply be able to walk and rehab. Just seems to me totally ironic that in the most physical sport on the planet players cannot get what the average citizen can get

Agree 100%

but, he said "I never took anything, I will find what happened, blah blah".. If he said, yeah, I got a rehab shot because I couldnt play, it would be a different story.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Agree 100%

but, he said "I never took anything, I will find what happened, blah blah".. If he said, yeah, I got a rehab shot because I couldnt play, it would be a different story.

I agree partly with what you say too. I think the problem with being a fan is that we really do not know what the substance was at the moment

 

[BigRedRage]

I agree partly with what you say too. I think the problem with being a fan is that we really do not know what the substance was at the moment

I dont really care what he took if it was for rehab. They should be able to take steroids for rehab. its what they are for.

 

[football karma]

I think it's kind of silly to have pseudoephedrine on the banned list.

back in the day -- certain players would take lots of sudafed for the speed like effects

Dexter Manley was one. I think Bill Romanowski was another

 

[RON_IN_OC]

back in the day -- certain players would take lots of sudafed for the speed like effects

Dexter Manley was one. I think Bill Romanowski was another

Not a whole lot different than MLB players taking "greenies". Those were similar and were available by the handful in clubhouses. Dexter Manley was into more than just sudafed, though...he had a coca-cola problem, too, iirc.

 

[Jetstream Green]

back in the day -- certain players would take lots of sudafed for the speed like effects

Dexter Manley was one. I think Bill Romanowski was another

Lawrence Taylor said screw that, and went full cocaine on the field at times

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Lawrence Taylor said screw that, and went full cocaine on the field at times

I know a lot of football players use to take something called “mini-thins,” I believe.

 

[GatorAZ]

You think these guys aren’t “cheating” when they put their bodies through car accidents every Sunday? The dumb ones get caught.

 

[THESMEL]

You think these guys aren’t “cheating” when they put their bodies through car accidents every Sunday? The dumb ones get caught.

yes i think most are not cheating

 

[dscher]

I don't even feel important in my own house!

You're own own the effort with out my help.....

 

[dscher]

You're own own the effort with out my help.....

@dreamcastrocks

No idea what's happening with this one... Saturday was a fun night.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

@dreamcastrocks

No idea what's happening with this one... Saturday was a fun night.

 

[Russ Smith]

back in the day -- certain players would take lots of sudafed for the speed like effects

Dexter Manley was one. I think Bill Romanowski was another

Romanowski was just a do anything to get ahead kind of guy. Told the story before when he was on the 49ers he used to go to local bars and beat people up for fun, bouncers even. He knew because he was a 49er he could get away with it.

When he was with the Eagles he got ejected for kicking Larry Centers in the head. With the Raiders he started a fight with a backup TE then ripped the guys helmet off and punched him in the face crushing his eye socket, it ended the guys career. He sued Romanowski citing Romo having had "roid rage" and won several hundred thousand dollars in damages from him plus an undisclosed amount from the raiders, who were aware of his steroid use per the lawsuits.

Really bad guy.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Romanowski was just a do anything to get ahead kind of guy. Told the story before when he was on the 49ers he used to go to local bars and beat people up for fun, bouncers even. He knew because he was a 49er he could get away with it.

When he was with the Eagles he got ejected for kicking Larry Centers in the head. With the Raiders he started a fight with a backup TE then ripped the guys helmet off and punched him in the face crushing his eye socket, it ended the guys career. He sued Romanowski citing Romo having had "roid rage" and won several hundred thousand dollars in damages from him plus an undisclosed amount from the raiders, who were aware of his steroid use per the lawsuits.

Really bad guy.

Here you go.

 

[HairZach]

Cardinals WR DeAndre Hopkins reveals what led to PED suspension

DeAndre Hopkins on Wednesday revealed what was in his system that resulted in his six-game suspension for violating the NFL's PED policy.

arizonasports.com

So Hopkins got popped for having .1% Ostarine in his system. He says is still investigating how that could have happened. Ostarine is a SARM, basically a newer type of steroid. SARMS are weak PEDS with potentially unknown side effects that are hard to mask from anti doping tests. It makes very little sense for pro athletes to use SARMS intentionally, but they get popped for them quite often.

From what I've seen in steroid documentaries, athletes who get popped for trace amounts of SARMS are probably regular steroid abusers. Normal steroids and SARMS are often produced in the same location. What can happen is trace amounts of SARMS get accidentally mixed with the actual steroids while they are in powder form during production. Could be from something as simple as not properly wiping down a table. This results in an athlete who regularly uses steroids, who knows how to fool anti doping tests, testing positive for a substance that they had no idea was in their body. Different PEDS stay in the body for different lengths. Some can be out of system in a few day, some will present for months. Impossible to hide something you don't know you're taking.

 

[Jetstream Green]

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[DaHilg]

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Good to hear a modern player admit that HGH is rampant and essentially untested for. Been touting this for about a decade.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Really hoping nuk can get six suspension to less gms like 3 4 is respectable

Also cards desperately need nuk out on field next to Moore and Hollywood

Fingers crossed goooo nuk and cards

 

[gmabel830]

Really hoping nuk can get six suspension to less gms like 3 4 is respectable

Also cards desperately need nuk out on field next to Moore and Hollywood

Fingers crossed goooo nuk and cards

He didn't appeal the suspension - has he changed his stance on that?

 

[mjb21aztd]

He didn't appeal the suspension - has he changed his stance on that?

Oh on Google if you type cards it says hopkins wants to appeal suspension pretty new article

 

[Mainstreet]

Didn't another player who tested positive for the same substance get a lesser suspension?

This might be grounds for some type of appeal, at least in regard to the number of games.

 

[gmabel830]

Oh on Google if you type cards it says hopkins wants to appeal suspension pretty new article

So he's not appealing, but asking/saying he thinks the suspension should be reduced. Not sure that's going to lead anywhere.

Here's an article that basically says "yeah, good luck with that." https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ailed-test-hoping-suspension-will-be-reduced/

 

[gmabel830]

Didn't another player who tested positive for the same substance get a lesser suspension?

This might be grounds for some type of appeal, at least in regard to the number of games.

But he dropped his appeal, and I'm not sure what the process is to try to appeal once you have already dropped the appeal. It seems like he is just publicly saying he hopes it is reduced, not yet taking any steps to actually make that happen. Time will tell.

 

[Mainstreet]

But he dropped his appeal, and I'm not sure what the process is to try to appeal once you have already dropped the appeal. It seems like he is just publicly saying he hopes it is reduced, not yet taking any steps to actually make that happen. Time will tell.

There is probably a better word than "appeal." Based on what I know, there is cause for the suspension to be reduced no matter what the process is called.