Defense? Don’t make me laugh.

[slanidrac16]

Beef up the entire offense. Get two good Wr, add a te even if Ertz comes back ( Williams injury concerns,beef up the o-line.
Bills and Chiefs were playing dynamite defense the second half of the season. Both of them are getting shredded to pieces because of these offenses.
Look at the we add weapons on these two teams and compare them to ours.
Hopkins can’t do it alone.

 

[don7031]

Still won't have the quarterback.

 

[slanidrac16]

Still won't have the quarterback.

Well then we’ll know for sure. Look at the weapons the remaining teams have on offense.
Nobody on our offense would start on anyone of those teams except for Hopkins…maybe Hudson. Not one other player on this roster would start on ANY of the remaining teams.

A good team needs 3 good wr’s. We have one. You need 3 rb’s that you utilize throughout the year. We have to add some mean SOB’S to this offensive line. Nobody on this offense strikes fear into the hearts of our opponents.

I hope Kyler was watching these games and not play video games.

I hope Kingsbury was watching and see how crossing patterns can kill a defense.

I hope Keim was watching and he recognizes just how slow this offense is.

They’re all going to be back whether we like it or not. Man , do they have a lot to learn and a lot of work to do.

 

[TRW]

One thing that showed, AGAIN, that is bandied about every year it seems, is that SPEED is the thing. That's what I notice with most of the teams that go deep in the playoffs, SPEED. You can't have slow poke LBs and DLinemen, your chance of winning becomes much harder when you have players who look like they are running through peanut butter all of the time. You need guys with speed that can CATCH the ball and get YAC.

The Cardinals seem to always lack in team speed and that's a big issue IMO. If they do have guys with a little speed they seem to not know what to do with them. Crazy.

 

[akg102]

I'm of the same mind and said something similar last week. I'm not giving another top 120 talent to VJ in this draft. It's a lost cause, as they won't see the field anyway.

Every single WR below Hopkins is either gutless or talent-less. Zero playmakers. In my Madden world, If we came away from the 2022 draft with 2 elite receivers (Burks and Wilson), then built the trenches in FA, I'd be satisfied. Between them you get a combination of elite size, elite hands, elite speed, elite ball skills.

The speed we have on this team is completely lacking in every other measurable category at WR.

With that said........would adding playmakers even matter in this scheme with Kyler? Probably not.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Jameson Williams

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Still won't have the quarterback.

Not so fast. Josh Allen's 1st 2 years weren't good at all...In fact they may have been sub par to Trubisky. He finally broke out in year 3 and got even better in year 4. There is hope for KM, yet.

 

[Chopper0080]

Well then we’ll know for sure. Look at the weapons the remaining teams have on offense.
Nobody on our offense would start on anyone of those teams except for Hopkins…maybe Hudson. Not one other player on this roster would start on ANY of the remaining teams.

A good team needs 3 good wr’s. We have one. You need 3 rb’s that you utilize throughout the year. We have to add some mean SOB’S to this offensive line. Nobody on this offense strikes fear into the hearts of our opponents.

I hope Kyler was watching these games and not play video games.

I hope Kingsbury was watching and see how crossing patterns can kill a defense.

I hope Keim was watching and he recognizes just how slow this offense is.

They’re all going to be back whether we like it or not. Man , do they have a lot to learn and a lot of work to do.

I get what you are saying but this ain't it. Mecole Hardman. Byron Pringle. Gabriel Davis. Cole Beasley. Emmanuel Sanders. Dawson Knox. Sometimes it is just the QB being that damn good.

 

[GatorAZ]

Can you fair catch a squib kick? If not you can just give yourself up and one second comes off the clock no?

 

[Chopper0080]

Not so fast. Josh Allen's 1st 2 years weren't good at all...In fact they may have been sub par to Trubisky. He finally broke out in year 3 and got even better in year 4. There is hope for KM, yet.

There is hope and there isn't. Josh Allen recognized that he needed to be better and he went out and found what he needed to get better. Kyler could decide to do that. That said, Josh Allen is a huge physical specimen and Kyler isn't. That comes with a fearlessness I have not seen from Kyler and I don't think he can just turn that on.

 

[PlayerHater]

Not so fast. Josh Allen's 1st 2 years weren't good at all...In fact they may have been sub par to Trubisky. He finally broke out in year 3 and got even better in year 4. There is hope for KM, yet.

Josh is 6'5, plays with heart, is a leader and loves football. Kyler is 5'10, plays video games and seems to care less about being a leader or the game of football. These two have very different trajectories at this point in their careers. Any hope I had left in Kyler is gone at this point.

 

[juza76]

There is hope and there isn't. Josh Allen recognized that he needed to be better and he went out and found what he needed to get better. Kyler could decide to do that. That said, Josh Allen is a huge physical specimen and Kyler isn't. That comes with a fearlessness I have not seen from Kyler and I don't think he can just turn that on.

Kyler has to play football without being afraid of getting hit, if he does he will drastically improve his pocket presence and the options downfield

 

[DVontel]

I get what you are saying but this ain't it. Mecole Hardman. Byron Pringle. Gabriel Davis. Cole Beasley. Emmanuel Sanders. Dawson Knox. Sometimes it is just the QB being that damn good.

I mean, that is partly it. Kyler needs to step it the hell up big time, but don’t disrespect arguably the most dominant WR/TE duo in the league in Tyreek/Kelce. Then you have a top 3-5 WR in Diggs on the other side.
Those QBs are that damn good, but you’re better than this, Chop.

 

[slanidrac16]

One thing that showed, AGAIN, that is bandied about every year it seems, is that SPEED is the thing. That's what I notice with most of the teams that go deep in the playoffs, SPEED. You can't have slow poke LBs and DLinemen, your chance of winning becomes much harder when you have players who look like they are running through peanut butter all of the time. You need guys with speed that can CATCH the ball and get YAK.

The Cardinals seem to always lack in team speed and that's a big issue IMO. If they do have guys with a little speed they seem to not know what to do with them. Crazy.

Great post. We have to be one of the slowest teams in the league. The speed guys we have we don’t use.

 

[slanidrac16]

I'm of the same mind and said something similar last week. I'm not giving another top 120 talent to VJ in this draft. It's a lost cause, as they won't see the field anyway.

Every single WR below Hopkins is either gutless or talent-less. Zero playmakers. In my Madden world, If we came away from the 2022 draft with 2 elite receivers (Burks and Wilson), then built the trenches in FA, I'd be satisfied. Between them you get a combination of elite size, elite hands, elite speed, elite ball skills.

The speed we have on this team is completely lacking in every other measurable category at WR.

With that said........would adding playmakers even matter in this scheme with Kyler? Probably not.

Maybe not. But if we add play makers with speed and YAC, bolster our o-line BIG TIME that would be a great start.
We still have to decide on a rb room. Conner is a stud. We seem to think Edmonds will be gone so Can Eno play a bigger role. Ward? The draft? We need 3 rb’s that can contribute every week. ErtZ yes? Still need to add another one because Williams injury was pretty bad.

 

[PACardsFan]

Well then we’ll know for sure. Look at the weapons the remaining teams have on offense.
Nobody on our offense would start on anyone of those teams except for Hopkins…maybe Hudson. Not one other player on this roster would start on ANY of the remaining teams.

A good team needs 3 good wr’s. We have one. You need 3 rb’s that you utilize throughout the year. We have to add some mean SOB’S to this offensive line. Nobody on this offense strikes fear into the hearts of our opponents.

I hope Kyler was watching these games and not play video games.

I hope Kingsbury was watching and see how crossing patterns can kill a defense.

I hope Keim was watching and he recognizes just how slow this offense is.

They’re all going to be back whether we like it or not. Man , do they have a lot to learn and a lot of work to do.

Great post! I especially agree with your line about Kingsbury watching and seeing how crossing patterns can kill a defense. Just mind boggling to see how WIDE OPEN the KC receivers get. And it was against the #1 ranked defense in the NFL. The last time I saw a Cardinal WR that open was Fitz running loose against Carolina in the 2009 Divisional Playoff game when we waxed them in their own house. Not only does this team need WR's, they need SPEED. Can you imagine Murray having the ability to be throwing to any of these receivers or TE's from this weekend:

Chase
Higgins
Uzomah
AJ Brown
Kittle
Samuel
Adams
Kupp
OBJ
Evans
Gronk
Davis
Beasley
Diggs
Hill
Kelce
Pringle
Hardman

As great as Hop is, he's not the speed demon that this team needs. I'm hoping Moore will be a huge contributor next season, but the jury is still out on whether he can stay healthy enough to even matter.

 

[PACardsFan]

There is hope and there isn't. Josh Allen recognized that he needed to be better and he went out and found what he needed to get better. Kyler could decide to do that. That said, Josh Allen is a huge physical specimen and Kyler isn't. That comes with a fearlessness I have not seen from Kyler and I don't think he can just turn that on.

No one is arguing that Allen is a great QB. But, in addition to working his craft, the Bills also put multiple weapons around him & fixed their OL each and every year. They also have a great D that tilts the field position in their offense's favor throughout the season. Minus Hop, the Cardinals had one of the slowest & least dependable WR group in the entire NFC. What makes you think that Murray doesn't work hard to improve? It's a crock of crap to say otherwise.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

I get what you are saying but this ain't it. Mecole Hardman. Byron Pringle. Gabriel Davis. Cole Beasley. Emmanuel Sanders. Dawson Knox. Sometimes it is just the QB being that damn good.

And the the person calling the plays lol.

 

[BritCard]

There is hope and there isn't. Josh Allen recognized that he needed to be better and he went out and found what he needed to get better. Kyler could decide to do that. That said, Josh Allen is a huge physical specimen and Kyler isn't. That comes with a fearlessness I have not seen from Kyler and I don't think he can just turn that on.

Josh Allen has worked with QB coaches like Jordan Palmer in the off season.

This board had this argument in the offseason with the Kyler defenders saying "You don't know if he's working with a coach in the offseason". Well you do, because everyone leaks it. Either the coach leaks it, or the player leaks it, because it's good PR for everyone.

I'm really impressed with Josh Allen. I, like most, completely hated the pick at #7 for a guy so raw but that dude has put the work in. When Kyler hits the offseason he's all about the gym, I couldn't care less about that. I want him working with coaches and studying film.

But he's too arrogant for that. His god given talent doesn't need coaching. He just see's it all naturally. He's the Neo of QB's.

 

[BritCard]

Beef up the entire offense. Get two good Wr, add a te even if Ertz comes back ( Williams injury concerns,beef up the o-line.
Bills and Chiefs were playing dynamite defense the second half of the season. Both of them are getting shredded to pieces because of these offenses.
Look at the we add weapons on these two teams and compare them to ours.
Hopkins can’t do it alone.

I agree.

Mainly because I think the defense has enough talent already and we are not really losing anyone on that side of the ball except potentially CJ.

The best way to help the defense is to have an offense that can keep the defense off the field.

I'd resign Kirk. He's good friends with Kyler. Kyler trusts him. I don't want to start messing around with the chemistry on offense. Kirk has earned it and we need to resign our draft picks.

The areas we need to improve are replacing AJ Green. A new RG (at least).

I'm not too concerned about much more at WR. I want to resign Ertz and Maxx. I would love to see those guys on the field together.

An Offense of Nuk, Kirk, Moore, Ertz, Maxx and a decent outside receiver would be more than enough firepower.

 

[yagetonemoreyear]

Josh Allen has worked with QB coaches like Jordan Palmer in the off season.

This board had this argument in the offseason with the Kyler defenders saying "You don't know if he's working with a coach in the offseason". Well you do, because everyone leaks it. Either the coach leaks it, or the player leaks it, because it's good PR for everyone.

I'm really impressed with Josh Allen. I, like most, completely hated the pick at #7 for a guy so raw but that dude has put the work in. When Kyler hits the offseason he's all about the gym, I couldn't care less about that. I want him working with coaches and studying film.

But he's too arrogant for that. His god given talent doesn't need coaching. He just see's it all naturally. He's the Neo of QB's.

You say he is the NEO, he is arrogant ...
you don't say he is a bust ... which is what he is... baseball within 2 years when he realizes, and he is realizing it now, that he is NOT gods gift to QBs, he is not going to be successful or a STAR on his 'cognitive' abilities in football... hey, Kyler, film, try studying it you midget dufus...

if he had a scrap of work ethic instead of overblown ego, he might have made it (Flutie did because he was willing to work)...but it has been 4 years of college (you would think then, he would have been a hard studier, his first 3 years sitting on his ass... but apparently not) and 3 years in the pros... and he is getting worse, because he has figured out.. whoa, these guys are badass and fast.. and now he is AFRAID.. go away Kyler... go to baseball, soon ... we don't want your midget physicality combined with your gargantuan ego, with NO receipts to back that up .. you JUST AREN'T that good...

 

[Stout]

There is hope and there isn't. Josh Allen recognized that he needed to be better and he went out and found what he needed to get better. Kyler could decide to do that. That said, Josh Allen is a huge physical specimen and Kyler isn't. That comes with a fearlessness I have not seen from Kyler and I don't think he can just turn that on.

Seriously. Allen went on an offseason crusade to completely revamp his entire throwing motion. Who here thinks KM is going to suddenly decide to live in the film room?

 

[BritCard]

You say he is the NEO, he is arrogant ...
you don't say he is a bust ... which is what he is... baseball within 2 years when he realizes, and he is realizing it now, that he is NOT gods gift to QBs, he is not going to be successful or a STAR on his 'cognitive' abilities in football... hey, Kyler, film, try studying it you midget dufus...

if he had a scrap of work ethic instead of overblown ego, he might have made it (Flutie did because he was willing to work)...but it has been 4 years of college (you would think then, he would have been a hard studier, his first 3 years sitting on his ass... but apparently not) and 3 years in the pros... and he is getting worse, because he has figured out.. whoa, these guys are badass and fast.. and now he is AFRAID.. go away Kyler... go to baseball, soon ... we don't want your midget physicality combined with your gargantuan ego, with NO receipts to back that up .. you JUST AREN'T that good...

He's defo not a bust. He has all the talent. That's what is frustrating.

What he doesn't have is the work ethic you need to be a top QB in the NFL. You have to live and breath QB 90% of the time for at least 7 months of the year. You get your down time in the early offseason and from May through to February (if you are lucky) it's all football all the time except the odd day here and there.

If you can't handle that, then you can't be a good NFL QB.

 

[Stout]

He's defo not a bust. He has all the talent. That's what is frustrating.

What he doesn't have is the work ethic you need to be a top QB in the NFL. You have to live and breath QB 90% of the time for at least 7 months of the year. You get your down time in the early offseason and from May through to February (if you are lucky) it's all football all the time except the odd day here and there.

If you can't handle that, then you can't be a good NFL QB.

So you're saying he can't be a good QB? Because, let's be honest, a leopard doesn't change its spots. Sure, it took a few years for Allen to get a QB coach, but that didn't mean he wasn't working to get better. He had none of the noise of being "cognitively too good" like KM surrounding him.

 

[BritCard]

Seriously. Allen went on an offseason crusade to completely revamp his entire throwing motion. Who here thinks KM is going to suddenly decide to live in the film room?

For me to have any faith in Kyler going forward I would need to see him working with a coach in the offseason as he should have been the last 2 offseasons.

There is so much he needs to work on. If all I see from him is a bunch more Gym videos on Insta and he roles up thinking he's good enough as he is I'm giving up all hope.