Did Q save our franchise? :)

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I'm thinking he has. I'm not sure if Green agrees to come to our team without seeing the potential of The Q. I think Q may have started a ripple effect that will make us a consistant playoff team. Long live the Q!!! He may end up being the best pick of all time :thumbup:
 

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He had a good rookie year and made it to the pro bowl. Savior? greatest pick of all time? Well, not quite yet. :rolleyes:
 

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I THINK SO.BUT only if hes good for at least a couple of years.He could end just like boston,MR ATTITUDE.I think he will be awesome imo.I DO THINK GREEN SAVED OUT TEAM.TEAMS TURN AROUND IT JUST TAKE TIME.Look at the braves,indians,(well not now)and my cubs.WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND.THE CARDINALS WILL BE JUST FINE. ALSO AZ JAM WHERE DO YOU LIV,I WORK AT BASHAS ON SHEA AND 136TH STR.
 

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Thinking that way, maybe you could say Jerry Sullivan saved us...


He is THE reason we took him...
 

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az jam said:
He had a good rookie year and made it to the pro bowl. Savior? greatest pick of all time? Well, not quite yet. :rolleyes:
Have faith my friend, must everyone remind you again of what the power of the quan can do ;)
 

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az jam said:
He had a good rookie year and made it to the pro bowl. Savior? greatest pick of all time? Well, not quite yet. :rolleyes:

Savior? Yes!

In fact Quan was originally cast in the role of Jesus in "The Passion". After 14 consecutive days of grueling torture Mel Gibson gave up because Q had not even broken a sweat.

They hired someone else for the lead and reshot the film.
 
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Even if he ends up not being the greatest I think he helped us get Green and if Green can do what he has done at other places than we'll be as good as we ever have been so in that way he may have saved us!
 
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I for one believe in the power of Quan. If this team had 52 guys like him they would be SB champs.
 
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vikesfan said:
I for one believe in the power of Quan. If this team had 52 guys like him they would be SB champs.

Hey Vikesfan since you are the only one on here do you think Green would have come here without Boldin? I think he makes the Cardinals look a lot more attractive. Hey are you in Minnesota? Isn't like two hrs later there? Is it like 3:30 there right now!?
 

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Savior? Yes!

In fact Quan was originally cast in the role of Jesus in "The Passion". After 14 consecutive days of grueling torture Mel Gibson gave up because Q had not even broken a sweat.

They hired someone else for the lead and reshot the film.

Go watch him this Friday.

He plays both Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie in "The Alamo".
 

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No
and your reasoning is?
One guy doesn't make or break your franchise. Otherwise the Lions (with Barry Sanders) would have been a perennial Super Bowl contender as would the Bears (Urlacher or before that Gayle Sayers).

If we didn't have Q, we would have been worse than we were last year. But whether we sucked or sucked badly is moot - the franchise (as awful as it might have been) would still be standing.

More germaine questions figure to be: "What will it take to become much better?" "What do we need to do - in addition to Q - to be a consistent winner and a successful franchise?"
 

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JeffGollin said:
No
and your reasoning is?
One guy doesn't make or break your franchise. Otherwise the Lions (with Barry Sanders) would have been a perennial Super Bowl contender as would the Bears (Urlacher or before that Gayle Sayers).

If we didn't have Q, we would have been worse than we were last year. But whether we sucked or sucked badly is moot - the franchise (as awful as it might have been) would still be standing.

More germaine questions figure to be: "What will it take to become much better?" "What do we need to do - in addition to Q - to be a consistent winner and a successful franchise?"


Agreed!

...and since when is "No" anal? :confused:
 
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JeffGollin said:
No
and your reasoning is?
One guy doesn't make or break your franchise. Otherwise the Lions (with Barry Sanders) would have been a perennial Super Bowl contender as would the Bears (Urlacher or before that Gayle Sayers).

If we didn't have Q, we would have been worse than we were last year. But whether we sucked or sucked badly is moot - the franchise (as awful as it might have been) would still be standing.

More germaine questions figure to be: "What will it take to become much better?" "What do we need to do - in addition to Q - to be a consistent winner and a successful franchise?"

Ugh... That's not my point though! My point is yes he helped our team last year but we may have not got Green if we hadn't had Boldin. I think that is a strong possibility too. I think Green felt we could be a very good offensive team which he liked. One of the biggest reasons is Boldin. If we don't get Green maybe we don't get any of the marque coaches and we end up getting an up and comer like Mac and we go through the same process the Cardinals have gone through the past umpteen years!
 

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SunCardfan said:
Ugh... That's not my point though! My point is yes he helped our team last year but we may have not got Green if we hadn't had Boldin. I think that is a strong possibility too. I think Green felt we could be a very good offensive team which he liked. One of the biggest reasons is Boldin. If we don't get Green maybe we don't get any of the marque coaches and we end up getting an up and comer like Mac and we go through the same process the Cardinals have gone through the past umpteen years!

I don't think Boldin was a factor in the selection of Green at all.

I'd say the writing on the wall started to become evident about game 11 with the massacre in Cleveland. It became evident that Mac just wasn't getting it done and was given his walking papers.

SOMEONE had to be hired, Green and Fassel headed the list. They chose Green. I seriously doubt Boldin was the determining factor why Green chose here.

PS...I guess we know now how you'd score on a Rohrshach test. :D
 
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I really like Boldin; and I am thrilled that he is a Cardinal! I also enjoy reading the tounge-in-cheek exploits of Quan...

But let's come back to reality for a little while. I think Boldin will have a good sophomore year, but his numbers may not be a good as they were last season. You can bet the opposing defenses will be paying close attention to him this year.

Much depends upon the overall offense and how well the guys are operating DG's system. Bryant Johnson figures to be a key this year also. If Johnson shows development and becomes an additional threat it will take some of the attention off of Boldin.


Save the franchise?? Hardly!
 
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Tangodnzr said:
I don't think Boldin was a factor in the selection of Green at all.

I'd say the writing on the wall started to become evident about game 11 with the massacre in Cleveland. It became evident that Mac just wasn't getting it done and was given his walking papers.

SOMEONE had to be hired, Green and Fassel headed the list. They chose Green. I seriously doubt Boldin was the determining factor why Green chose here.

PS...I guess we know now how you'd score on a Rohrshach test. :D

You'd probably insult every ink blot you saw....
 

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I don't think Boldin was a factor in the selection of Green at all.
It couldn't hurt to know Boldin was there, but put yourself in Denny's shoes:

You want to get back into coaching football. You consider yourself a "turnaround specialist" and you check out all the teams.

Which type of team is easiest to turn around?

- An old team that's getting older?

- A team with zero talent on its offensive line?

- A team with sucky running backs?

- A team with a dead-assed receiving corps.

- A young team with a promising QB going into his 3rd year, that has a solid O-line, a couple of productive RB's, a rookie of the year wideout and some high draft picks on its D-line - but appears to have been coached badly & simply hasn't played anywhere near its potential

(Aha!)

 

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The fact that Boldin was here had nothing to do with Denny taking the job. He wanted to get back into coaching and the money was right. He also felt that he could get along with Graves and that the ownership wouldn't interfere with his coaching as some owners call all the shots (like Al Davis).
Finally, he felt there is a decent core of players to build on and certainly Boldin is one of them.
 

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