Did you guys see that BS?? Please trade coaches with us

[greensborohill]

How the hell do you justify benching a Hall of Fame PG with 30 seconds left in the game?

Avery Johnson has never taken any accountability for his coaching decisions, not in the Finals, not last playoffs, NEVER.

It's always Dirk, Devin, etc., etc.

He's a coward and control freak. He's lost all my respect.

 

[arwillan]

yeah i saw that too. the announcers were just as puzzled as you and i. you can't bench a clutch player like kidd in that situation. Even though he is not a particularly good 3-pt shooter, he can create an open 3 for someone else and he is known to knock down open 3's at the end of games because people tend to pay more respect to his team mates on the perimeter. That was a poor decision by avery, i agree with you there. terry did get a decent look, only he forgot that bowen was right next to him to swat the shot. too bad for the mavs, but that was a really good game. i'm not sure if bass was in on that play, but it might be a good idea to throw him in there for the possible tip in or offensive board. I'd put him in there over Dampier.

On the other hand, you really don't want to trade coaches with us. our coach over-plays aging veterans, says the solution to everything is more energy and playing our game, and stresses no defense at all.

 

[devilalum]

How the hell do you justify benching a Hall of Fame PG with 30 seconds left in the game?

Avery Johnson has never taken any accountability for his coaching decisions, not in the Finals, not last playoffs, NEVER.

It's always Dirk, Devin, etc., etc.

He's a coward and control freak. He's lost all my respect.

Dude, do you have to bring the entire Buttface Gang with you everywhere you go?

 

[Darth Llama]

Let me get this straight.. you want to trade coaches.. with the Suns?

You really want to trade a mediocre coach for a terrible one?

Not being trollish here, the Suns have all the talent in the world, but D'Antoni is the reason they haven't gone anywhere. If you want a new coach, he's not the answer for Dallas or anyone else that wants to succeed.

 

[French Fries]

i'm not among the "i hate mike d" movement, but if you want to take him and give us avery then i'll throw in my porn collection as well, let's get this deal done...

 

[greensborohill]

i'm not among the "i hate mike d" movement, but if you want to take him and give us avery then i'll throw in my porn collection as well, let's get this deal done...

Seriously guys, it took the majority of us at db.com to figure out that the problem is Avery. He's over controlling and takes no account for his team, and continually gets out coached by the likes of Nelly, Pops, etc.

 

[French Fries]

Seriously guys, it took the majority of us at db.com to figure out that the problem is Avery. He's over controlling and takes no account for his team, and continually gets out coached by the likes of Nelly, Pops, etc.

exactly why i want him here. he would likely impose his system on the guys and give them an extra push, expecially on the defensive end. i got no problem with mike d, although sometimes he seems too nice to his squad. i believe as a coach you gotta show who's the boss. ask pops...

that benching thing was a bad decision though, i'll give you that. you brought him in the team exactly for this same reason, crunchtime poise...

 

[mojorizen7]

Let me get this straight.. you want to trade coaches.. with the Suns?

You really want to trade a mediocre coach for a terrible one?

Not being trollish here, the Suns have all the talent in the world, but D'Antoni is the reason they haven't gone anywhere. If you want a new coach, he's not the answer for Dallas or anyone else that wants to succeed.

Awesome. I hope you don't mind me borrowing that for about a week.

 

[CaptainInsano]

How the hell do you justify benching a Hall of Fame PG with 30 seconds left in the game?

Avery Johnson has never taken any accountability for his coaching decisions, not in the Finals, not last playoffs, NEVER.

It's always Dirk, Devin, etc., etc.

He's a coward and control freak. He's lost all my respect.

I know it is a sucky way to lose the game, but you lost by 3 points. Big deal and the game was right there to try and tie. It is a hell of a lot better then losing to detriot by 32, not blowing out memphis, and then being down 20 against the hornets when your team is down 3-0 in the season series and should be playing with some intensity and fire so as to not get swept in a final loss by 17 points.

At least your team has a chance, a few lucky bounces go your way and maybe you could be in the finals again, though I doubt it.

As for the suns, on the other hand, I don't even know if we have a chance anymore. Now we have to wait 2 weeks until we meet the spurs to see if we do.

 

[Hoop Head]

Isn't it kinda funny that the 04-05 and 05-06 coaches of the year are now seen as jokes and questioned on there ability to actually coach. I think that award is a complete joke.

 

[Agloco]

How the hell do you justify benching a Hall of Fame PG with 30 seconds left in the game?

Avery Johnson has never taken any accountability for his coaching decisions, not in the Finals, not last playoffs, NEVER.

It's always Dirk, Devin, etc., etc.

He's a coward and control freak. He's lost all my respect.

The only thing I can think of is that they were plannig to go for the win. that meant getting a three in that instance. JKidd is not getting you a three......

That having been said, I thought it was a bad move too. At least let him drive and see what happens.

 

[mojorizen7]

Isn't it kinda funny that the 04-05 and 05-06 coaches of the year are now seen as jokes and questioned on there ability to actually coach. I think that award is a complete joke.

It seems that if a coach can turn a program around in one season in terms of wins & losses, the C.O.Y. award is given out.
I think that it's basically the same credentials applied to the Most Improved Player award.
C.O.Y. should be based on results..... Like winning titles & getting the most out of his guys IMO.
Maybe a Most Improved Coaching Award could be introduced for accomplishments based on dramatic turnarounds.
Just a thought.

 

[az1965]

I'm not sure about Avery coming to Suns, but you can certainly take D'Antoni...

 

[Folster]

I always thought that Avery was an extremely overrated coach. His reputation as a good coach was a product of TNT. They pimped him and his "defense" from day one after he took over from Nelly. Personally, I though Del Harris should have gotten the job. Not to open up old wounds, but the Heat had no business even winning a game against you guys in the 2006 Finals. You guys were head and shoulders better.

 

[Kody Rumin]

Isn't it kinda funny that the 04-05 and 05-06 coaches of the year are now seen as jokes and questioned on there ability to actually coach. I think that award is a complete joke.

No, it means some fans are ignorant and only focus on the bad. I'm sure that if I left out all of his accomplishments and only focused on his mistakes, I could make Red Auerbach look like a total failure. That's what people are doing with D'Antoni and Avery here. I know they aren't perfect, but some of you can be stupidly cynical.

 

[Folster]

No, it means some fans are ignorant and only focus on the bad. I'm sure that if I left out all of his accomplishments and only focused on his mistakes, I could make Red Auerbach look like a total failure. That's what people are doing with D'Antoni and Avery here. I know they aren't perfect, but some of you can be stupidly cynical.

I'd like to see you try.

 

[Darth Llama]

Awesome. I hope you don't mind me borrowing that for about a week.

Nice.. glad I could help man!

 

[Hoop Head]

No, it means some fans are ignorant and only focus on the bad. I'm sure that if I left out all of his accomplishments and only focused on his mistakes, I could make Red Auerbach look like a total failure. That's what people are doing with D'Antoni and Avery here. I know they aren't perfect, but some of you can be stupidly cynical.

I would like to see that.

I would also like for you to explain how I am ignorant because D'Antoni can't coach a starting five that consists of a total of 3 former ROY winners, 29 Allstar appearances, 3 MVP awards, 25 All-NBA team selections, and 4 All-NBA defensive team selections in a half court set ?

 

[TheHopToad]

Heck, I think I'd take Westphal back right now. Maybe Dallas can trade him to us...

 

[tobiazz]

If Avery coaches like he played, he will improve every year until he is pretty good.

 

[nowagimp]

How the hell do you justify benching a Hall of Fame PG with 30 seconds left in the game?

Avery Johnson has never taken any accountability for his coaching decisions, not in the Finals, not last playoffs, NEVER.

It's always Dirk, Devin, etc., etc.

He's a coward and control freak. He's lost all my respect.

I have always felt that the mavs talent was the factor that led to the winning, not the coaching. They are loaded with talent from terry, dirk stack, kidd, Josh Howard, Bass. Those guys would have career years on the suns, and also play D.

 

[Maligzar]

I'd like to see you try.

OK I'll try.

Red was before my time so I'm not going to go there, although I bet a couple old timers could.

How about Phil Jackson?

Phil Jackson is a Hall of Fame coach; who up until this year was being seen in a very negative light due to the last 3 seasons. I remember all this talk and comments about how his success was due to MJ, due to Shaq, due to everybody else but himself, and that now it's showing when he has to actually build a team. This year, the old Zen Master is back to being the "greatest coach" all because the Lakers are winning.

Now I'm not here to say D'Antoni doesn't have faults and that I don't have a problem with some of the things he does. It really upsets me that he is hell bent on a 7-8 man rotation especially when I think we have about 10-11 guys that can contribute.

Of course Avery only played 8 guys last night so that wouldn't really help.

Avery's style of coaching wouldn't work with guys like Shaq, Steve and Amare. It might work for the rest of the team but the big three would not respond well to his antics.

Mike has flaws but to disregard his coaching entirely, especially given his history, is ignorant.

 

[nowagimp]

Not being trollish here, the Suns have all the talent in the world, but D'Antoni is the reason they haven't gone anywhere. If you want a new coach, he's not the answer for Dallas or anyone else that wants to succeed.

Not trollish, just ignorant. Tell you what, I'd trade all the talent in the world as you say it for the lakers talent. Everyone except perhaps yourself realizes that the suns players have had career years as a "product of the system".

Even opposing coaches say they dont know how PJ steps into teams with such talent. MJ plus 5 first round picks, shaq and kobe, and now this loaded laker team the kupchak has delivered.
PJ hasnt won anything without top talent, crap he hasnt won a playoff series with kobe, and odom, even when odom got to match up with a much smaller marion on a suns team with no post presence. That doesnt mean that PJ isnt a good coach, but your "all the talent in the world" statement is ignorant. Raja was a bench player before coming to the suns, barbosa couldnt be traded for most starting 2 guards in the NBA and who wants diaw anyway? All these guys AND Joe Johnson had career years for the suns, they dont look nearly as good in any other system. Check out Joe Johnsons stats this year, 41% FG's scoring 3ppg more than he did in his last year with the suns(46%) while shooting 10% less from 3pt range(47-37%) and taking almost 5 more shots/game. He's never even shot 40% from 3 as a hawk.

 

[az1965]

Heck, I think I'd take Westphal back right now. Maybe Dallas can trade him to us...

N-O--- NO!

 

[Covert Rain]

Heck, I think I'd take Westphal back right now. Maybe Dallas can trade him to us...

Not trollish, just ignorant. Tell you what, I'd trade all the talent in the world as you say it for the lakers talent. Everyone except perhaps yourself realizes that the suns players have had career years as a "product of the system".

Huh? So your saying that Nash and Amare are in fact not two of the most talented players at their respective positions and are products of D'Antoni's system? You can't be serious. Even Marion is proving to be just as productive in Miami without the Suns system. Sorry but a system will only do so much for a player. If the player doesn't have the raw talent, even the best of systems won't make a lick of difference.

So specifically by position which Laker players would you rather have? Kobe is a given.