Do fans actually have a voice?

JosiahLee

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The end of this season is simply heart-breaking. The fans deserve better. This season we got to:

-Play Dwayne Haskins
-Play Joe Flacco
-Play Andy Dalton
-Play the NFC East
-Play the Patriots without Tom Brady
-Play CJ Beathard
-Play John Wolford

And we still didn’t make the playoffs! Can fans actually protest or be loud enough to actually force a change? Bringing back Keim and Kliff is simply a slap in the face to all of us who bleed Red (no pun intended).

I don’t know that fans will necessarily be allowed into the stadium next year so boycotting tickets isn’t necessarily an option. I’m sick thinking and in all reality KNOWING that no one will be held accountable because apparently that’s the Cardinal way.
 

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Maybe this year have a better chance of changes being made BECAUSE no fans at the games. When the games sell out, changes aren't mandatory. When you are trying to convince people to come back and spend money after a season of being away...you better put a good product on the field.

If Im Bidwill im cleaning house and footing the bill. When do you find the right GM and Coach....it will make a much bigger difference than paying out some money.

"We almost didn't hire the next Bellicek because we were paying other coaches"
 

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Hopefully Michael's perspective is similar. And you forgot another big "hanging chad". There was a 7th playoff team this season.

This was an opportunity..... we blew it. Royally.
 

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Nope. You suffered through a whole season with Wilkes.

That should tell you you have no voice
 

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Hopefully Michael's perspective is similar. And you forgot another big "hanging chad". There was a 7th playoff team this season.

This was an opportunity..... we blew it. Royally.

That playoff spot is staying. It might go to 8
 

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Wilkes was one year and they made the correct move based on that train wreck. This was still a train wreck with less cars off the tracks but off the tracks none the less
 

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Michael should have this framed & sitting right beside his computer so he can see it daily & change the year until the goal is met! Seems like all the motivation I would need if I were him
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the time to sell would have been a couple years ago. Not during a pandemic(and tv ratings also significantly lower) when the league is hemorrhaging billions.
LOL. NFL is a license to print money. The real reason not to sell is that there could be three or four teams changing hands in the next five years—there should be plenty of supply (Goddell’s job is basically lining up a pipeline of minority owners willing to plop down $2 billion+ for these mints)—but nothing is guaranteed.
 

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Nope. You suffered through a whole season with Wilkes.

That should tell you you have no voice
Wilkes was one year and they made the correct move based on that train wreck. This was still a train wreck with less cars off the tracks but off the tracks none the less
Wilks. Why do people feel the need to add the E?

Also, no, the fans have minimal voice, so don't expect anything. I like Michael, but he's not going to get rid of his buddies after a pandemic year.
 

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Yes you do! If you’re not pleased you don’t go to the games!

As season ticket holders for decades - the tickets are already paid for whether we show up or not and we go to EVERY game. Went to two in this crazy year and wish it could have been more. Not an option for diehard fans.
 

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The end of this season is simply heart-breaking. The fans deserve better. This season we got to:

-Play Dwayne Haskins
-Play Joe Flacco
-Play Andy Dalton
-Play the Patriots without Tom Brady
-Play CJ Beathard
-Play John Wolford [- first NFL appearance - dbs]
It's worse... you forgot a few! (Though you did mention "NFC East" but you mentioned Haskins & Dalton so might as well spell out the rest....)
-Daniel Jones
-Jalen Hurts - 2nd start
-CJ Beathard

...dave
 

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It's worse... you forgot a few! (Though you did mention "NFC East" but you mentioned Haskins & Dalton so might as well spell out the rest....)
-Daniel Jones
-Jalen Hurts - 2nd start
-CJ Beathard

...dave

Forgot about Tua in his second start where he lit the world on fire... leading the Phins to 34 points, 248 passing, 35 yards rushing 2 passing TDs and 1 rushing and zero turnovers... and never approaching that level ever again.
 

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-Play Dwayne Haskins
-Play Joe Flacco
-Play Jalen Hurts
-Play Tua Tagovailoa Loss
-Play Daniel Jones
-Play Andy Dalton
-Play the Patriots without Tom Brady - Loss
-Play CJ Beathard - Loss
-Play John Wolford - Loss

So basically 5 of our 8 wins are against teams with a below average QB.

Yes this is already problematic per se but losing 4 against Tua, Camster, Beathard and Wolford ... is even more problematic ...
 

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Really? That’s intriguing. If only we could finally land one of those billionaire owners that’s willing to do anything to win!
careful what you wish for. I’d rather have MB than Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder.
 

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Be careful what you ask for, a new owner may mean the team moving out of AZ.

At this point, I wonder how many fans would be on board with an expansion team in AZ with brand new ownership vs the Cardinals...

:grabs:
 
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