Don't be an Okur hater...

[sly fly]

Flame away. I don't care.

But, Okur is not as bad as some of you claim. In fact, most of you have just caught glimpses.

Okur doesn't fit with Larry Brown. Not many Euros do.

He is definitely an asset while on the court. Can pass well for a big. Sets huge screens. And, has a nice touch from inside and out.

He did not get consistent minutes.

He will surprise and help any team. Not a star, but a good compliment player.

Joe Dumars is not stupid.

 

[Chaplin]

For 5 million, I'd give him a look. For 7 million... nuh uh.

 

[TigToad]

Sorry

Sorry, I am an Okur hater.

 

[F-Dog]

For 5 million, I'd give him a look. For 7 million... nuh uh.

As I said a while back...if Okur gets a deal starting at $6m, the Suns had better be the team giving it to him.

 

[sly fly]

Sorry, I am an Okur hater.

Cool. I'll remember that.

 

[F-Dog]

Sorry, I am an Okur hater.

Clearly, an expert like yourself is entitled to his own opinion...

 

[George O'Brien]

He is definitely an asset while on the court. Can pass well for a big. Sets huge screens. And, has a nice touch from inside and out.

He did not get consistent minutes.

He will surprise and help any team. Not a star, but a good compliment player.

It is frightening just how much this description resembles the positives of Luc Longley. Luc was considered a great passer, he had a nice mid range jumper, set screens, and blocked out. What Luc didn't do was play defense without fouling, get rebounds, or block shots.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

As I said a while back...if Okur gets a deal starting at $6m, the Suns had better be the team giving it to him.

Actually, you said the suns should offer a contract starting at 11 million to Okur

 

[sly fly]

It is frightening just how much this description resembles the positives of Luc Longley. Luc was considered a great passer, he had a nice mid range jumper, set screens, and blocked out. What Luc didn't do was play defense without fouling, get rebounds, or block shots.

Longley was lazy.

That's why he sucked.

 

[PhxGametime]

I didn't watch much of the Playoffs or many games outside of Suns game and I haven't watched the Detroit games recently but IMO Mehmet Okur isn't that bad. Not sure how much I'd pay but compared to most 4+ year veteran centers - $6 million isn't that bad. Nash or Okur wouldn't be that bad but both I'm not so sure about. Okur isn't that bad of a rebounder/shotblocker - being that offense is strength (about the same blocks/48 min as Mark Blount). Not a great athlete (I tend to like athletes) but can still be effective, alongside Amare.

My worry would be about Maciej Lampe not getting chance to be starter, years ahead but not so sure Mark Blount is an big upgrade from Jahidi White (I did like White's game though). Adonal Foyle isn't too bad but not much of upgrade from Jahidi White and every team will be interested if he comes cheap. I do like Stromile Swift and Etan Thomas but both are restricted. Camby might be out of price range and not sure Divac would sign here.

 

[slinslin]

nm

 

[The Commish]

For any of those who remember Yorgi Glushkov (sp?), then signing Okur is quite frightening. Personally I think Lampe will be the EXACT SAME PLAYER within a year. I dont see how signing him would make our team much better.

Sorry guys, but the last thing the suns need is another white guy in the paint.W need a banger in the paint, someone of INTIMIDATION---a guy with a mean streak. This team was really soft last year, and I think a guy like Dampier, Blout, or Thomas (I wish Dalembert) would be money better spent that Okur or Anderson...

My two cents

 

[Errntknght]

I focussed on Okur during the last three rounds of the playoffs and I sure didn't like what I saw on the defensive end. I wouldn't say that he is significantly better than Lampe right now - yet Okur is 25 and has been coached for 3 years by Rick Carlisle and Larry Brown! I wouldn't expect him to improve where he's weak while Lampe might yet, despite being coached by a defensive idiot.

On the offensive end Okur looked okay and would probably do pretty well in a high post offense - though coach Mikey has done or said nothing to indicate he plans to employ one. Should he continue to run the same offense as last year and strongly emphasize the running game, Okur is not really a good fit.

I'm not sure D'Antoni knows it but to make a success of the running game the team needs tough, opportunistic defense and strong rebounding plus speed up and down the floor. That's exactly what Okur does not bring to the game. Heck, we have Amare, Shawn and JJ to pick up the relatively easy rebounds but what we don't have is someone who can dig out the tough ones - and watching Okur he was no better at that than fumble fingers Jake. Okay, maybe a little better because he didn't fritter the ball away as much once he got his hands on it.

Before watching the playoffs I thought if we could get Okur for around $6 million he'd be okay - I figured if Dumars wanted him he had to be a pretty good defender. Now I don't want him taking up a roster spot and taking time away from Lampe.

If our poster who has followed Vroman and loves his game is anywhere close to right, Vroman is a better fit for the team than Okur.

I'd much rather see the Suns pursue Etan Thomas or even Blount. I hate to say it but for the same money I rather get Damps, baggage and all.

 

[Yuma]

I think Damps will get some team to spend crazy jack on him.

Okur showed me nothing in the playoffs. He had ample opportunity when Sheed kept getting into foul trouble early in games. Our Magic Lamp shoots as well as Okur, air balls and all, in fact I saw Okur fire up some air balls! If I had to pick, the Magic Lamp is playing defense BETTER than Okur. WE all know the Lamp needs to play better defense, but he occaisonally blocks a shot, or at least gets infront of a guy.

The Suns better NOT be rolling the brinks truck up to Okur's house and dropping big bags of jack! If they see Okur as our future center, then I have serious doubts about the Suns scouting crew!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

i hate okur.

 

[F-Dog]

Actually, you said the suns should offer a contract starting at 11 million to Okur

To be fair, that was back when he was putting up 18-rebound games.


Look at it this way--if the Suns sign Kobe and Joe Johnson goes back into his shell, other teams' fans are going to be wondering why their GM wants to sign this POS and why the Suns would claim they're planning to match offers for him. Those fans won't necessarily know what they're talking about, right?

 

[F-Dog]

I focussed on Okur during the last three rounds of the playoffs and I sure didn't like what I saw on the defensive end. I wouldn't say that he is significantly better than Lampe right now - yet Okur is 25 and has been coached for 3 years by Rick Carlisle and Larry Brown! I wouldn't expect him to improve where he's weak while Lampe might yet, despite being coached by a defensive idiot.

It looked to me like Okur held his own on defense against K-Mart and JO, and he didn't humiliate himself against Shaq, either. If you can say the same for Lampe any time in the next three years, I will be very pleasantly surprised.

I'm not sure D'Antoni knows it but to make a success of the running game the team needs tough, opportunistic defense and strong rebounding plus speed up and down the floor. That's exactly what Okur does not bring to the game. Heck, we have Amare, Shawn and JJ to pick up the relatively easy rebounds but what we don't have is someone who can dig out the tough ones - and watching Okur he was no better at that than fumble fingers Jake. Okay, maybe a little better because he didn't fritter the ball away as much once he got his hands on it.

What I saw was a player who can box out and still go get the rebound, as opposed to any of the current Suns (who seem to be able to do one or the other).

I see Okur as a young Brad Miller with better one-on-one scoring ability, and Miller didn't slow down the Kings any despite questionable foot speed.

If our poster who has followed Vroman and loves his game is anywhere close to right, Vroman is a better fit for the team than Okur.

I guess you could say that, in the same way you could say that Bo Outlaw was the Suns' best center two years ago. Vroman sounds like an NBA forward to me, but I'm willing to wait and see.

 

[Goldfield]

. Personally I think Lampe will be the EXACT SAME PLAYER within a year. I dont see how signing him would make our team much better.

Sorry guys, but the last thing the suns need is another white guy in the paint.W need a banger in the paint, someone of INTIMIDATION---a guy with a mean streak. This team was really soft last year, and I think a guy like Dampier, Blout, or Thomas (I wish Dalembert) would be money better spent that Okur or Anderson...

My two cents

I agree, Okur has some talent, but he is not what THIS team needs...