Draft Mike Williams

[Jetstream Green]

We are gong to need a number 1 WR soon and all the QBs are projects and will be for sometime in drafts to come. Mike Williams might have made Watson look like a better QB than he actually was. You need a stud WR and at our draft position he might be there and the special ones go early. My QB project is Kizer in the second and third round if we must but Palmer is good to go for one more season and a rookie needs to start anyways, my difference maker is Mike Williams. Sure we need a CB but we have Peterson who is still in his prime and we cannot afford to hold onto two studs with our cap space in the upcoming years anyways (draft a solid guy in the second or third with less risk than another Williams named Brandon if he does not pan out). I would not have a problem with Foster at LB or Hooker at safety, but Mike Williams would make the chances of a young quarterback succeeding jump exponentially given we also have a rookie QB's best friend in David Johnson

 

[BleedRed]

I like Williams too, reminds me a lot of Dez Bryant. I'd be happy with Williams, Hooker, or Foster as well.

 

[Buckybird]

Draft Corey Davis

 

[Mitch]

I think Williams, Adams and Hooker will all be taken prior to #13. If the Browns, 49ers and Jets address their QB situations in free agency or via trades, all 3 top-rated QBs (Trubisky, Kizer and Watson) could still be on the board at #13, especially seeing all three are considered developmental QBs. Yet, I still don't think the Cardinals will take a QB at #13. Possibly at #45 or #77. The reason is that there will be some plug and play options at #13.

 

[Bodha]

Williams, nor most WRs, arent special enough to take early in the 1st. Other than Larry, all our WRs for the past decade have been 2nd round+


Theres probably 5 WRs in this draft thatll have better careers than Williams, and none (maybe one, late 1st) will be in the 1st round.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Williams, nor most WRs, arent special enough to take early in the 1st. Other than Larry, all our WRs for the past decade have been 2nd round+


Theres probably 5 WRs in this draft thatll have better careers than Williams, and none (maybe one, late 1st) will be in the 1st round.

We disagree... sincerely Julio Jones and AJ Green

 

[Shane]

No way on Mike Williams... True dominant #1 WRs are just a luxury and not needed to win a SB... Can anyone name me a team with a true dominant #1 WR that has won a SB in the last 10+ years???

It's been great having Larry and watching his greatness... But I'm firmly in the belief that WR that touch the ball 7 to 8 times a game don't effect the game enough and aren't worth the money or the investment... you can strengthen your team in so many other areas and still win A championship...

 

[Stout]

If he's available, absolutely.

 

[Bodha]

We disagree... sincerely Julio Jones and AJ Green

Special, HOFrs. Mike isnt in the same area code as those guys.


You know whos the perfect Mike Williams comparison? Michael Floyd. Dead ringer.

+ Same size
+ Same speed
+ Same circus catches
+ Same blocking ability
- Same inconsistencies
- Not a game changer

Williams and Floyd are the same guy. Good players. But not elite.

 

[Mitch]

Special, HOFrs. Mike isnt in the same area code as those guys.


You know whos the perfect Mike Williams comparison? Michael Floyd. Dead ringer.

+ Same size
+ Same speed
+ Same circus catches
+ Same blocking ability
- Same inconsistencies
- Not a game changer

Williams and Floyd are the same guy. Good players. But not elite.

I think Williams is a little more explosive. My concern about him is whether, like Floyd, he will always be nursing injuries.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Special, HOFrs. Mike isnt in the same area code as those guys.


You know whos the perfect Mike Williams comparison? Michael Floyd. Dead ringer.

+ Same size
+ Same speed
+ Same circus catches
+ Same blocking ability
- Same inconsistencies
- Not a game changer

Williams and Floyd are the same guy. Good players. But not elite.

You better get off line for a while, you get paid to work for the Browns which might not like you taking recreational time to enlighten when you have all that game tape at your disposal which you still need to go through lol

 

[Ohcrap75]

Special, HOFrs. Mike isnt in the same area code as those guys.


You know whos the perfect Mike Williams comparison? Michael Floyd. Dead ringer.

+ Same size
+ Same speed
+ Same circus catches
+ Same blocking ability
- Same inconsistencies
- Not a game changer

Williams and Floyd are the same guy. Good players. But not elite.

If Floyd consistently made the tough catches in traffic that Williams makes and didn't have off field problems, then he would be considered a number one.

 

[Bodha]

I think Williams is a little more explosive. My concern about him is whether, like Floyd, he will always be nursing injuries.

You better get off line for a while, you get paid to work for the Browns which might not like you taking recreational time to enlighten when you have all that game tape at your disposal which you still need to go through lol

If Floyd consistently made the tough catches in traffic that Williams makes and didn't have off field problems, then he would be considered a number one.

Cooper Kupp is better

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Year G Rec Yds Yd/Rec TDs
2013 15 93 1691 18.2 21
2014 13 104 1431 13.8 16
2015 11 114 1642 14.4 19
2016 13 117 1700 14.5 17

1500 yards per year
15.25 yards per reception (deeeeep threat)
18 TDs per year avg
did it 4 years straight. Not a fluke.

Mike Williams best season:
Rec Yds Yd/Rec TDs
98 1361 13.9 11

Dude should avert his eyes in the presence of Kupp, are you kidding me

 

[Mitch]

Cooper Kupp is better

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Cooper Kupp is outstanding. He's actually the kind of combo outside and slot WR the Cardinals need. Would probably have to take him at #45....he probably will be off the board by #77.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'm not interested in a WR in round 1. Especially with our QB situation up in the air after a year or two.

I would rather improve the line or improve the defense to keep our foundation strong.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I'm not interested in a WR in round 1. Especially with our QB situation up in the air after a year or two.

I would rather improve the line or improve the defense to keep our foundation strong.

That is certainly another route because if we hold onto Campbell for three more years with the talent we already have in place... we could use the draft to completely control our division with an elite defense even with a game manager at QB because we have a guy like David Johnson, hence a guy like Jimmy G or Mike Glennon is all we really need to win and win ugly which is still winning lol

 

[Jetstream Green]

Cooper Kupp is better

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Year G Rec Yds Yd/Rec TDs
2013 15 93 1691 18.2 21
2014 13 104 1431 13.8 16
2015 11 114 1642 14.4 19
2016 13 117 1700 14.5 17

1500 yards per year
15.25 yards per reception (deeeeep threat)
18 TDs per year avg
did it 4 years straight. Not a fluke.

Mike Williams best season:
Rec Yds Yd/Rec TDs
98 1361 13.9 11

Dude should avert his eyes in the presence of Kupp, are you kidding me

And the Big Sky Conference should avert their eyes in the presence of the Atlantic Coast Conference... I kid you not

 

[Bodha]

And the Big Sky Conference should avert their eyes in the presence of the Atlantic Coast Conference... I kid you not

Thats the laziest, most baseless reach. Football is football. Still have to catch, run and tackle. And The Big Sky puts multiple players into the NFL every year.

Khalil Mack was the most dominant player in the nation, for Buffalo, in the lowly Mid Atlantic Conference, vs Mid Atlantic Conference opponents, and he went 5th overall and is now dominating in the NFL.

Kupp has dominated for 4 years. Williams has put up 1 good year, that still doesnt match any of Kupps 4. Considering his dominance for 3 years, its fair to say defenses schemed for Kupp his senior year...and he still had a Copper Kupp monster season

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Thats the laziest, most baseless reach. Football is football. Still have to catch, run and tackle. And The Big Sky puts multiple players into the NFL every year.

Khalil Mack was the most dominant player in the nation, for Buffalo, in the lowly Mid Atlantic Conference, vs Mid Atlantic Conference opponents, and he went 5th overall and is now dominating in the NFL.

Kupp has dominated for 4 years. Williams has put up 1 good year, that still doesnt match any of Kupps 4. Considering his dominance for 3 years, its fair to say defenses schemed for Kupp his senior year...and he still had a Copper Kupp monster season

Football is football is the laziest most baseless argument. I'm going to go out on a limb and, for example, say the talent level at LSU is better than at Idaho.

If Kupp is so dominant and better than Williams, why he is a 2nd round, at best talent? Level of competition also is question mark for Corey Davis. Look at his numbers versus Big 10 defenses and it's a concern.

 

[Bodha]

Football is football is the laziest most baseless argument. I'm going to go out on a limb and, for example, say the talent level at LSU is better than at Idaho.

If Kupp is so dominant and better than Williams, why he is a 2nd round, at best talent? Level of competition also is question mark for Corey Davis. Look at his numbers versus Big 10 defenses and it's a concern.

Why was Russell Wilson a 3rd rounder? Because hes "too short" and every knows touchdowns thrown by guys under 6'2 are only worth 5 points.


I loathe these pre-determined biases.

Heres the universal rule for small school guys: If hes great, then he should dominate.

Kupp dominates. Therefore hes great.

And the convo of Williams vs Kupp isnt even a convo. Ive provided 4 years worth of evidence why Kupp is better than Williams, and the only response im getting is "conference".

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[DVontel]

I'd take Corey Davis before I would take Mike Williams.

That being said, I don't want us to draft a WR in the first round at all.

 

[Bodha]

I'd take Corey Davis before I would take Mike Williams.

That being said, I don't want us to draft a WR in the first round at all.

I like Davis over Williams. But someone will take Davis 1st round.


but then again, he's in the MAC conference, so he should probably go undrafted.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Why was Russell Wilson a 3rd rounder? Because hes "too short" and every knows touchdowns thrown by guys under 6'2 are only worth 5 points.


I loathe these pre-determined biases.

Heres the universal rule for small school guys: If hes great, then he should dominate.

Kupp dominates. Therefore hes great.

And the convo of Williams vs Kupp isnt even a convo. Ive provided 4 years worth of evidence why Kupp is better than Williams, and the only response im getting is "conference".

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Well, if you don't think level of competition comes into play then you're severely flawed in your assessments. Kupp may never have seen the field at a school like Clemson. But now he puts up big numbers against guys more likely to sell insurance than sniff a NFL training camp and he's better. Okay got it.

In your world only is Kupp a better NFL prospect than Williams, regardless of what cartoon you post.

By your thinking every Mike Leach coached QB should be drafted in round 1. I mean, hey, they put up the numbers. That's all that matters. First RB off the board this year should be the kid from SD St right?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I like Davis over Williams. But someone will take Davis 1st round.


but then again, he's in the MAC conference, so he should probably go undrafted.

Like I said, look at Davis's number against Big 10 defenses. You know, DB's that will actually play in the NFL.

I'll save you the time: zero 100 yard games and 1 fluke desperation throw it up for grabs on 4th down TD for Davis.

And I like Davis.

 

[Buckybird]

Like I said, look at Davis's number against Big 10 defenses. You know, DB's that will actually play in the NFL.

I'll save you the time: zero 100 yard games and 1 fluke desperation throw it up for grabs on 4th down TD for Davis.

And I like Davis.

I still say that has more to do with the QB than Davis, but we shall see. Let's see how he plays in the Senior Bowl or East West if he's involved