End of the road & Patrick Peterson

[Arz101]

For the record I love the guy. Logically thinking P2 has 5 games left in his Cardinals Career.

If Wilks is retained, P2 will traded in off season.

If a new HC comes in, the new coach will come with the intent of trading Peterson to establish who the floor boss is.

I am going to enjoy the final five games watching P2 play. Yes, I will be watching Cardinals games no matter what the score is.

When P2 is gone, it will be big shoes to fill.

 

[DVontel]

I love PP21, but I would trade him just to gain assets no matter who the GM/HC is. No point in keeping a near 30 year old CB in a obvious rebuild where we have a lot of holes.

 

[Solar7]

I wouldn't move him. This team has a ton of cap money, will be in great draft position with plenty of assets, and we'll have a 2-3 year window with Rosen to keep things that way. PP21 can hold onto his performance for another 2-3 years.

Of course, this is said as long as he's not so disenchanted with the franchise that he's becoming a malcontent. But if we can convince him to stay, I see no point in trying to replace him with draft picks.

 

[Arz101]

I love PP21, but I would trade him just to gain assets no matter who the GM/HC is. No point in keeping a near 30 year old CB in a obvious rebuild where we have a lot of holes.

It has been 3 years and counting to find a competent guy on other side of P2. You think draft picks, i mean draft picks, is going to replace two corners in one season?

EDIT: Oops. you didn't mention draft picks. I assumed it. I am leaving the original reply to take the wrath

 

[cardjunkie]

No thank you. We can't even find a good CB2. We'll be in deep trouble if we lose our CB1.

 

[overseascardfan]

If he can't net 2 first rounders then I wouldn't deal him, ARZ needs to be overwhelmed not sell him for pennies on the dollar. You need CB's who can cover in today's NFL, look at how many #2 CB's we've gone through in the last few years. But if you deal him then you have to deal Jones too because he isn't going to want to be here if we signal a re-build. ARZ can rebound into a playoff team next year, worst to first scenarios have happened a lot lately, you just need a GM that knows what the hell he is doing.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I am good either way.

This team is years away.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I am good either way.

This team is years away.

sadly, this is where I am. If they can get two first for him, and it's a new GM who gets to play with those picks, I'll be begrudgingly okay with it. If it's Keim, might as well keep him because those first rounders will end up freaking busts anyway.

 

[CardsFan88]

Don't trade him this offseason, we can potentially do it next offseason if we need to. We have a lot of holes next to a lot of pieces.

Given a new coach who might employ a offense from this decade (or century) and a defense that matches its players, we could turn this around pretty quickly. Even then, playoffs in 2019 is a stretch and highly unlikely. However if we show significant improvement in 2019, PP's frustration might be alleviated.

He can't leave on his own until 2021 free agency. There's a lot of time to right the ship before then. No need to rush.

 

[cardpa]

sadly, this is where I am. If they can get two first for him, and it's a new GM who gets to play with those picks, I'll be begrudgingly okay with it. If it's Keim, might as well keep him because those first rounders will end up freaking busts anyway.

ditto.

 

[az jam]

I'd fire Wilks and make sure that P2 buys into the new HC.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'd fire Wilks and make sure that P2 buys into the new HC.

who's gonna make him buy into the new HC... old GM who brought in the worst coaching staff we've ever seen this year?

 

[pmacLean]

am in the 'doesn't matter if PP21 leaves camp", because it will take so long to revamp this team, by time it happens he will be over the hill and get dumped due to salary/performance anyway... so trade him now... just don't show any trade partner film of his tackling ... I wouldn't give much for him just due to that

 

[Cheesebeef]

Don't trade him this offseason, we can potentially do it next offseason if we need to. We have a lot of holes next to a lot of pieces.

Given a new coach who might employ a offense from this decade (or century) and a defense that matches its players, we could turn this around pretty quickly. Even then, playoffs in 2019 is a stretch and highly unlikely. However if we show significant improvement in 2019, PP's frustration might be alleviated.

He can't leave on his own until 2021 free agency. There's a lot of time to right the ship before then. No need to rush.

issue with this is his value only goes down the closer he gets to FA and the older he gets. No one's giving up 2 firsts for a guy with only a year left on his deal.

 

[PACardsFan]

Dispose of Wilks first & foremost. If we can bring in a HC that is a proven winner, then PP21 just may decide to hang on. No one will give us 2 ones, so try to hang on to him.

 

[DVontel]

It has been 3 years and counting to find a competent guy on other side of P2. You think draft picks, i mean draft picks, is going to replace two corners in one season?

EDIT: Oops. you didn't mention draft picks. I assumed it. I am leaving the original reply to take the wrath

I mean, it’s better to get something in return then just watch him walk away for nothing(probably a near high comp pick). We’re years away, even with a new GM/HC. No one is giving to 2 1st rounders, but I would take a 1st & 3rd.

 

[AZCB34]

issue with this is his value only goes down the closer he gets to FA and the older he gets. No one's giving up 2 firsts for a guy with only a year left on his deal.

I don't think anyone gives up two firsts no matter what.

 

[NJCardFan]

I am good either way.

This team is years away.

I'm beginning to think I'm never going to see a championship in my lifetime. I'm going to be up there with Cub fans(who died pre-2016), Indians fans, Leafs fans, etc.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Not even thinking about PP21 until we have a new coaching staff in place. And I cannot imagine a new coach thinking - 'yeah, let's get rid of this perennial pro-bowl corner'.

But then I see Gruden.

 

[TJ]

Has anyone noticed how bad our CB2 situation has been over the years? Imagine that, but without PP21 on the team.

Don’t trade known commodities for potential.

 

[JeffGollin]

No thank you. We can't even find a good CB2. We'll be in deep trouble if we lose our CB1.

+1

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Dispose of Wilks first & foremost. If we can bring in a HC that is a proven winner, then PP21 just may decide to hang on. No one will give us 2 ones, so try to hang on to him.

As Don Corleone said, “Give him an offer he can’t refuse.” Fire Wilks and give Peterson input on the new coach. Wilks has to go

 

[CardsFan88]

issue with this is his value only goes down the closer he gets to FA and the older he gets. No one's giving up 2 firsts for a guy with only a year left on his deal.

I'm looking at it as in that I'm interested less in maximizing compensation and more into trying to salvage the relationship of a lock down corner. If we are to right the overall ship, as you know, we are going to need one of those. Cardinal in hand rather than two picks in a bush.

 

[az jam]

who's gonna make him buy into the new HC... old GM who brought in the worst coaching staff we've ever seen this year?

Michael Bidwill

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Michael Bidwill

It's going to cost him a fortune to fix this mess. If he does, I will be impressed