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Obviously the Suns playoff hopes have taken a severe hit. I just do not see the Suns having the size to seize a playoff spot. At least the Suns protected their lottery pick.
 

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Not many people thought that Frye would ever be a main cog on this team but that is what he has become. He spaces the floor, provides some rebounding and most of all has become a lost post threat.

This injury might have just knocked the Suns out of the playoffs.
 

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The Suns will be discussing options but Frye will be out 2-3 weeks. It seems probable the Suns may start Warrick at PF.
I foresee Grant Hill getting most of the minutes at Power Forward with either Dudley or Pietrus getting starter minutes at SF, even if Warrick starts at PF for his offense.

I promised to not beat the dead horse about Lopez starting at C, but if Warrick starts at PF, it would necessitate Lopez coming off the bench rather than starting alongside him. They're too limited in the same areas.
 
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I foresee Grant Hill getting most of the minutes at Power Forward with either Dudley or Pietrus getting starter minutes at SF, even if Warrick starts at PF for his offense.

I promised to not beat the dead horse about Lopez starting at C, but if Warrick starts at PF, it would necessitate Lopez coming off the bench rather than starting alongside him. They're too limited in the same areas.

You're right, starting Lopez and Warrick together will significantly weaken the Suns rebounding not to mention shooting. If Gentry wants to try something new, starting Gortat at center and Pietrus at PF makes sense. However, I do wonder if Gentry wants to make more than one change in the starting lineup.
 

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Damn this is gonna look like how we were earlier in the season with Turkoglu starting at PF!
 

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You're right, starting Lopez and Warrick together will significantly weaken the Suns rebounding not to mention shooting. If Gentry wants to try something new, starting Gortat at center and Pietrus at PF makes sense. However, I do wonder if Gentry wants to make more than one change in the starting lineup.
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Damn this is gonna look like how we were earlier in the season with Turkoglu starting at PF!
As much as I hate being undersized at PF, Hill is our best defensive player, covering 1's to 4's. That is a departure from Hedo, as long as Hill's health holds up.

We are behind the 8-ball. We have to choose the least-worst scenario until Frye's size and improved defense/rebounding returns.

Unless the Suns deal for a quality backup Power Forward to step into the starting lineup now, then replace Warrick at backup when Frye returns.

That would be the best solution, but will the Suns do it?
 
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Desertdawg, the Suns are going to miss the spacing that Frye provided.
 

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With our best starting rebounder out, the ideal will be to start the next best rebounding player. This is one of the reasons Gortat is critical for the second unit, but that group will have to learn to rebound by committee. The coaching staff definitely have their work cut out for them.
 

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The Suns will be discussing options but Frye will be out 2-3 weeks.
Either that's a very optimistic prognosis, or Frye's injury was relatively mild. I think the Suns will be lucky if Frye only misses three weeks.
Unless the Suns deal for a quality backup Power Forward to step into the starting lineup now, then replace Warrick at backup when Frye returns.

That would be the best solution, but will the Suns do it?
The trade deadline already passed, so that's not really an option.

I think Gentry will initially start Warrick in place of Frye, and if that doesn't work we might see Pietrus in that role. It's also more likely now that Gortat will replace Lopez in the starting lineup if the starters struggle without Frye.
 

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Either that's a very optimistic prognosis, or Frye's injury was relatively mild.

I was thinking of this too and hoped its the latter.

Although Frye was obviously in pain when he walked off the court, he returned to the bench and i remember thinking, DWade wasnt able to return when he left the court, hell he could barely walk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ZZbJzeKUA
 

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Anyone considering Siler to step up? At this point I am willing to risk this.. Just my opinion..

He could turn into a glen davis
 

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I'm not a physician, but it's possible that there's an important difference between a "dislocated" shoulder and a "separated" one.
 

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This hurts bigtime. The Suns lose one of their best outside shooters and now the offense is going to have to rely more on Nash creating more. Maybe we can see more of the Vince Carter from last night.
 

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Anyone else think Gentry should try Gortat & Lopez together? We have only tried that once and that was when no one was familiar with each other.

Gortat has shown time & time again that he can knock down 18-20 ft jump shots on a regular basis.

We would have to put our trust in Siler as a capable backup center...
 

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Anyone else think Gentry should try Gortat & Lopez together? We have only tried that once and that was when no one was familiar with each other.

Gortat has shown time & time again that he can knock down 18-20 ft jump shots on a regular basis.

We would have to put our trust in Siler as a capable backup center...

I don't like it unless we are playing the Lakers and Frye is in the line up. I doubt it would ever happen with Gentry preferring to go with no centers at times. It's been said Gortat and Howard weren't good at sharing time on the court at the same time, I can see that with Howard being everywhere all the time. Howard's style seems to have rubbed off on Gortat, which is why I think Frye does so well with Gortat.
Flipside is I do remember the Lopez brothers sharing time on the court in college and those two being pretty good at it. (note: I do not want Brook Lpoez in Phx, just recalling that Robin has played with another 7 footer)

Leave Siler in the oven.

( OT : small ball usually means not running with a center, it has nothing to do with how tall the point guards are)
 
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This hurts bigtime. The Suns lose one of their best outside shooters and now the offense is going to have to rely more on Nash creating more. Maybe we can see more of the Vince Carter from last night.

We're going to have trouble with our spacing now and perhaps even more importantly, we're going to miss Frye on the boards and defensively.

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We're going to have trouble with our spacing now and perhaps even more importantly, we're going to miss Frye on the boards and defensively.

On the other hand, it's kind of cool that Frye has progressed to the point where he's going to be out a few weeks and several of us think, "Crap, we're going to miss his rebounding."
 

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Believe it or not Warrick is equivalent to Frye in the number of rebounds they collect individually but I suspect Frye's blocking out helps team rebounding a fair amount. But on defense Hakim is not only undersized he's usually mentally out of it - the more minutes he plays the more other teams will figure out he can be exploited. Lopez and Frye did fairly well covering for each other but Robin is going to be in a world of hurt depending Hakim to have his back, not mention the fact that Hakim will switch onto a smaller player whenever the opportunity presents itself and that he way over commits chasing guards defending the pick and roll. Robin better hope they start Gortat, who, at least, has had a good amount of experience playing alongside Warrick.

I don't expect Gentry to give Siler a shot but in my book Warrick is bad enough that there's almost no downside to trying Garret... heck our rebounding may well improve a bit.
 

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On the other hand, it's kind of cool that Frye has progressed to the point where he's going to be out a few weeks and several of us think, "Crap, we're going to miss his rebounding."

Who'd a thunk it?

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If Gentry starts Warrick with Lopez, he easily wins moronic coach of the year award IMO. Thats two of the worst rebounders in the NBA.

If he starts Warrick, then Gortat better start over Lopez so we have at least one decent rebounder in the startinh lineup.
 

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Anyone else think Gentry should try Gortat & Lopez together? We have only tried that once and that was when no one was familiar with each other.
I guess, he should definitely. Gortat has offensive skills, but in Orlando he was classified as only good deffensive player so coach and his team-mates (except J. Wiilliams) hadn't seen him as an offensive option. Thus, his performance with Howard had to be very average.
Gortat can't substititute Frye in3-pointers, but could play their p/n/rolls with Nash, as Stockton and Malone did.
 
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