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I think I will try a more reader-friendly version this week:

Right Place---Right Time

* Defensive Adjustments in the second half---apparently Todd Bowles was kicking trash cans at half time after watching a 64 yard skinny post go for a TD and giving up three chunk yard plays in a row to hand over an easy FG at the end the half. Defending Morris, Jackson, Garcon, Roberts and Reed is a formidable task for any defense. Todd Bowles' defense got it done---and they did what the offense failed to do: they sealed off the win.

* Carson Palmer---one has to marvel at how well he played considering his layoff, the flights to Denver, the up to the minute rehabbing, etc. He is in total command of BA's offense and he showed it big-time in this game. Palmer managed to get the ball where it needed to go, despite what looked to be a more loopy and laborious throwing motion than usual. He tired in the fourth quarter and threw what could have been a game changing pick six to Brian Orakpo---but thank goodness Orakpo was slightly screened on the play and he couldn't pick the ball up fast enough. Regardless, Palmer played very tough in the pocket---and the flip pass he made to Robert Hughes was symbolic of how tough Palmer was both mentally and physically in this game.

* The offensive line---there were a number of mistakes and penalties---but overall they got the job done versus one of the better pass rushes in the NFL, particularly versus Orakpo and Kerrigan. Jared Veldheer battled hard versus Orakpo and very much struggled to square up on him---but he was very physical and he wasn't going to give Orakpo a clean shot on Palmer even if it meant holding if he had to. As a QB---you want your tackles to think and play this way---you don't want your tackles to give you up just to avoid a penalty. Plus, in this offense, as we saw again yesterday, they can make up for lost yardage in a hurry.

* Alex Okafor---what a great time for him and the team to have him step up and record two sacks, both on bull rushes....one from the outside and one from the inside. Sam Acho played the run well and made a clean catch on the on-side kick. Ed Stinson came up with a couple of good tackles. The Redskins only rushed for 72 yards (16 of which came on Helu's draw play at the end of the first half which led to a FG).

* Larry Fitzgerald---would have had a 120 yard day if the sideline pass he caught didn't get nullified by a penalty. His TD catch, run and two-handed protection of the ball was a superb play. Michael Floyd's TD was a work of art and John Brown made some nifty catches on underthrown passes---which included a huge third down PI penalty that kept a TD drive going. John Carlson and Rob Houlser made contributions and some good edge blocks (although---the -1 yard TE out passes are mind-boggling play calls, especially on 3rd and 2).

*Jerraud Powers---his ball awareness is second to none right now---very impressive, and one has to hope that teammates Cromartie and Peterson start following suit---it all starts with the feet and Powers is using his quick feet to jump routes.

* Rashad Johnson---Johnny on the Spot in this game and it is no surprise because Johnson, while he not flashy, is one of the most disciplined and dependable players on the team. He plays within himself and within the schemes. Interestingly, his pick six was from a spot where Karlos Dansby used to thrive...which begs the thought: "a pick six by any other name smells just as sweet!" Credit Bowles defense and the versatility of players like Rashad Johnson and Tyrann Mathieu (who, yes, badly misplayed Jackson's skinny post TD), but made up for it by pestering passes, blitzing into the face of the QB and scooping up Roberts' fumble wich Johnson helped cause and making a nice return on.

* Chandler Catanzaro---what a Steve Keim gem he is becoming---talk about consistency---wow.

Things to Clean Up:

* the false starts---did not turn out to be too costly, but could if repeated, including the defensive neutral zone infractions.

* the north-south running game, particularly on third and short---still not sure why with Stepfan Taylor the call was an east-west run and not a north south. With Ellington, east-west is fine, but not with Taylor. BA really needs to decide on which RB should assume Dwyer's role. If not Taylor, then it is time to insert Grice into that role. Typically, BA loves to hammer the ball when he has the lead in the 4th quarter---as he did last year, and with Dwyer in the first two games. It sure could have come in handy in this game.

* the -1 yard TE passes. Absurd. There's just no other way to put it, especially with all the other options and talented receivers.

* nickel edge rush and speed---not only for getting some outside pressure but for defending WR screens, RB swing passes and screens. Okafor and Acho are too slow in that role and let's face it, our CBs are not good, dependable tacklers on the perimeter.

* Patrick Peterson---now, it should be noted that playing CB is like playing offensive tackle in that you can be near perfect on every play but the two or three that you screw up on, which is sometimes all anyone notices. However, Peterson, while he likely was very good on most of his coverages, the two TDs he gave up were very lazy plays on his part, which he seems to have the tendency to do sometimes more than just a couple times a game. First of all, if he is going to play press CB, he has to make contact early with the WR---which he did not do on both occasions---in addition, he has to establish inside leverage, unless it's a disguise coverage where the LB or S is bracketing to the inside. With Peterson's speed he should be able to bust his butt to defend fade passes---but he cannot give up the easy inside passes. In both cases yesterday, his reactions were late, he did not gain leverage, did not disrupt the timing of the play and did not play through the ball (like Powers does with his feet and vision). On both plays---not only was technique an issue---so was the effort, and that is unacceptable.

* Ted Ginn, Jr.---yes, he had a couple of decent returns, but he has got to be able to step up and fair catch short punts---one has to wonder where his head is. At this point, do the Cardinals have a better option in Brittan Golden (both for returns and as a #4/#5 WR in the offense) if they activate him from the practice squad?

Most Important Factor:

The Cardinals teamwork. It is being put to the test, and this team appears to be impressively resilient and resolute. This was a big team win for a myriad of reasons.
 

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I agree for the most part but I don't see how you can fault effort on those 2 TD passes. PP played the first one about as good as you can play it the throw was just perfect it just got by PP. That's a short gain if TM plays it right.

I'm not sure but I don't think the 3rd and 1 to Taylor was supposed to go wide, the problem is 2 OL's completely whiff leaving 2 defenders in the backfield so Taylor took it wide and didn't get there.

The TE plays were as you said baffling, I think they believed they had an advantage against Kerrigan or something and it didn't help neither throw led the guy but both of those were doomed to fail. Seems like it's been ages since we ran a middle screen with a TE, used to work extremely well for Whiz.

Washington seemed to have that stuff sniffed out even the 3rd down fake and Palmer booted out they had that covered perfectly.

I agree about Powers but his pick wasn't just technique it was a great playcall by Bowles, we showed blitz and then dropped off and they threw the ball right into the hot read where Powers was dropping, that's exactly how you draw that up against a young CB. The reason you never see Cromartie or PP do that is they are never up in the slot showing blitz they're always out wide on an island.
 

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this is the first team in years,...hell,maybe ever....that even with three pro bowl type defensive starters out and questions about who will take snaps....I never doubted they were going to win.
Our defense is running low on star power and that shows in pts/yrds allowed......but the scheme and the ability of the bench players to play within the scheme, has been very impressive. This defense would be devastating if it still had Dwash, Dansby, Abraham, Dockett, and Campbell......even without these guys IMO they will finish the season in the top 10.

Palmer...unlike late Cincy or Oakland,.....knows he does not have to win the game, just play his part.
I have no issues at all with Veldheer...he is not an elite talent....what he is, is young, still improving, motivated, and possessing of a high ceiling. I expect to see some penalties from him, a few holds, an occasional personal foul.....an o-lineman keeps defenders off his QB, and failing that, he bitch slaps said defender to encourage him not to touch the QB again....Jared Veldheer is this type of O-Lineman, and I hope it is catching to the other guys on the line.

that young kicker is playing well and fortunately he has not been placed in a situation with real high pressure yet so he gets to build confidence slowly. what is he?? 13 of 13 now? Not just 30 yard chip shots either....impressive.
 
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I agree for the most part but I don't see how you can fault effort on those 2 TD passes. PP played the first one about as good as you can play it the throw was just perfect it just got by PP. That's a short gain if TM plays it right.

I'm not sure but I don't think the 3rd and 1 to Taylor was supposed to go wide, the problem is 2 OL's completely whiff leaving 2 defenders in the backfield so Taylor took it wide and didn't get there.

The TE plays were as you said baffling, I think they believed they had an advantage against Kerrigan or something and it didn't help neither throw led the guy but both of those were doomed to fail. Seems like it's been ages since we ran a middle screen with a TE, used to work extremely well for Whiz.

Washington seemed to have that stuff sniffed out even the 3rd down fake and Palmer booted out they had that covered perfectly.

I agree about Powers but his pick wasn't just technique it was a great playcall by Bowles, we showed blitz and then dropped off and they threw the ball right into the hot read where Powers was dropping, that's exactly how you draw that up against a young CB. The reason you never see Cromartie or PP do that is they are never up in the slot showing blitz they're always out wide on an island.

Peterson wasn't nearly as aggressive as he should have been on both plays, particularly with his feet. His effort at the end of the first half was also dubious as each chunk yard play went to his side without him once again making an aggressive play on the ball. Again, for a player who boasts to be the best CB in the NFL, he sure plays lazy at times. He should go watch some tape of Ty Law---the epitome of the aggressive, instinctive and physical CB.

Did Peterson even try to defend the TD pass to Garcon? Looked like he had cement feet and quit on the play. In the red zone, you can't rely on help because the ball comes out to quick.

Honey Badger for some reason got caught behind the play and was a single safety, which is always tough---it looked like he was shading the deep third as if someone else was supposed to shade the middle. Like you said, it's a short gain if he's got a good read on the play.

It looked like a counter off-tackle play to Taylor whose first step was not north-south but eat-west. Wrong player for that kind kind of call.

Todd Bowles' impact on the defense is, as you said, impressive...which is why when players are not aggressive it really stands out.
 
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this is the first team in years,...hell,maybe ever....that even with three pro bowl type defensive starters out and questions about who will take snaps....I never doubted they were going to win.
Our defense is running low on star power and that shows in pts/yrds allowed......but the scheme and the ability of the bench players to play within the scheme, has been very impressive. This defense would be devastating if it still had Dwash, Dansby, Abraham, Dockett, and Campbell......even without these guys IMO they will finish the season in the top 10.

Palmer...unlike late Cincy or Oakland,.....knows he does not have to win the game, just play his part.
I have no issues at all with Veldheer...he is not an elite talent....what he is, is young, still improving, motivated, and possessing of a high ceiling. I expect to see some penalties from him, a few holds, an occasional personal foul.....an o-lineman keeps defenders off his QB, and failing that, he bitch slaps said defender to encourage him not to touch the QB again....Jared Veldheer is this type of O-Lineman, and I hope it is catching to the other guys on the line.

that young kicker is playing well and fortunately he has not been placed in a situation with real high pressure yet so he gets to build confidence slowly. what is he?? 13 of 13 now? Not just 30 yard chip shots either....impressive.

Good assessment of Veldheer, oaken.
 

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Last play of the game was a long run as well, was it not? Not sure how long but that essentially means save for those two runs we completely shut down their running game.
 
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Last play of the game was a long run as well, was it not? Not sure how long but that essentially means save for those two runs we completely shut down their running game.

Excellent point, Dan. I think it was 56 yards rushing to that point.
 

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Hey Mitch! Great post for outoftowners who didn't see game.
 
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Hey! Oaken...

IF you include the pre-season (Hey, kicks are kicks and he was trying to win a job) ) "CAT-CAN-DO" has hit 20 straight. BEYOND AMAZING! :)

HAVE A GREAT DAY!

MARK IN SC :)

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Hey! Mitch...

Very insightful as always. If I had only one word to describe this team I would say...RESILIENT. Clearly, they are NOT the most talented team in the NFL (ie; injuries, etc.) ....and yet, they just keep on fighting. ...And minus the Denver game when the injuries really hit us hard...we've owned the 4th quarter. It seems to me after watching football for 47+ years that games are decided in the 4th when the "chips are on the table." I like listening to the "interviews" over on AZCARDS.COM and one of the things said regarding our 4th quarter success was this...."Well, by the time we get to the 4th we pretty much have seen everything they have to throw at us so we're ready."
That makes perfect sense to me.

HAVE A GREAT DAY, MY FRIEND! :)

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Very insightful as always. If I had only one word to describe this team I would say...RESILIENT. Clearly, they are NOT the most talented team in the NFL (ie; injuries, etc.) ....and yet, they just keep on fighting. ...And minus the Denver game when the injuries really hit us hard...we've owned the 4th quarter. It seems to me after watching football for 47+ years that games are decided in the 4th when the "chips are on the table." I like listening to the "interviews" over on AZCARDS.COM and one of the things said regarding our 4th quarter success was this...."Well, by the time we get to the 4th we pretty much have seen everything they have to throw at us so we're ready."
That makes perfect sense to me.

HAVE A GREAT DAY, MY FRIEND! :)

MARK IN SC :)

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You, my friend, sure know a little something about being resilient!

This team plays hard and they make necessary adjustments---all set up by diligent weekly preparation. One player last week said that during the bye week the team was being coached as if it was 0-3, not 3-0. The player added, "but in a good way." That says a lot about the coaches and the players---they understand the challenges---like BA said to the team after the win, "It's hard to stay in first place." And then he added, that's why we take it "one day at a time."

Such wisdom, isn't it, Mark!
 

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Hey! Mitch...

YUP! "Pearls of WISDOM' can go a long way and with the "age" of our coaching staff, I bet our coaches can dish out some real beauties. I think it's a shame that our society has forgotten its "elders." People that have been around awhile can offer incredible insights into just about everything. They've been there...they did it...and they're still around to tell the tale.

I am very thankful that I have lived long enough to see this Cardinal football team. For so we many years so many questions hung over this team (ie; Is mgmt. REALLY serious about winning; WHY are we so pitiful on draft day, etc...

I think I would use the word "comfortable" to describe how I feel now. We will show up and we will compete...That's all I can ask from any of my teams.

Great line the other day from B.A. regarding all the injuries before WASH. game.

(completely paraphrasing here) "Well, there's NO FORFEITS in this game! "

As always, tellin' it like it is.

HAVE A GREAT DAY, BUD! :)

MARK

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Peterson had an ankle injury a week ago and was playing in pain. Heard that on the Wolfe & Doug show this morniong from Cards sideline reporter Paul Calvisi. Said he toughed it out but was in pain.
 

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Ted Ginn looks like a player who was happy to get paid. He stinks.
 

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Hey Mitch. I always look forward to reading your posts after game day. This was no exception, and it was worth waiting for.

Nice job of pointing out Veldheer's nicely done job against Orakpo. This was the perfect match-up between a solid blue collar offensive tackle and a pro-bowl pass rusher. Jared knew he would not win them all, but he refused to lose any, regardless of what he had to do to defend his quarterback. That was great play on his part in my estimation. Job very well done, (and very much appreciated by his QB as well).

Speaking of his QB, I am so very proud of how tenacious Palmer was in taking it upon himself to lead this team, despite his obvious handicaps this game. What a gutsy job of unselfish leadership. How can his huddle not be endeared to him for his play through that kind of adversity? THIS is leadership on the very highest and purest level, and done by example and not by talk. God, I love this team, and the trust shown between management and players, and the loyalty returned in kind. Have a great week my friend.
 

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JB in as well on punt returns... Would rather have some one out there who can do more than wave his arms 9 outta 10 times.
 

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How soon we forget a TD that helped lead us to a win.

One good play doesn't eliminate all the poor choices.

This game yesterday would have been a blowout by the Cards if Palmer didn't have as much rust. There were 3 or 4 passes that would have been TD's that were slightly under thrown. That is just a result of the layoff and injury.

This is a well-coached team that gets wins in spite of obstacles. The biggest story of the season in the wins is the turnoever story. Its amazing how much easier it is to win if you don't throw INT's.
 

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I think I will try a more reader-friendly version this week:

Right Place---Right Time

* Defensive Adjustments in the second half---apparently Todd Bowles was kicking trash cans at half time after watching a 64 yard skinny post go for a TD and giving up three chunk yard plays in a row to hand over an easy FG at the end the half. Defending Morris, Jackson, Garcon, Roberts and Reed is a formidable task for any defense. Todd Bowles' defense got it done---and they did what the offense failed to do: they sealed off the win.

* Carson Palmer---one has to marvel at how well he played considering his layoff, the flights to Denver, the up to the minute rehabbing, etc. He is in total command of BA's offense and he showed it big-time in this game. Palmer managed to get the ball where it needed to go, despite what looked to be a more loopy and laborious throwing motion than usual. He tired in the fourth quarter and threw what could have been a game changing pick six to Brian Orakpo---but thank goodness Orakpo was slightly screened on the play and he couldn't pick the ball up fast enough. Regardless, Palmer played very tough in the pocket---and the flip pass he made to Robert Hughes was symbolic of how tough Palmer was both mentally and physically in this game.

* The offensive line---there were a number of mistakes and penalties---but overall they got the job done versus one of the better pass rushes in the NFL, particularly versus Orakpo and Kerrigan. Jared Veldheer battled hard versus Orakpo and very much struggled to square up on him---but he was very physical and he wasn't going to give Orakpo a clean shot on Palmer even if it meant holding if he had to. As a QB---you want your tackles to think and play this way---you don't want your tackles to give you up just to avoid a penalty. Plus, in this offense, as we saw again yesterday, they can make up for lost yardage in a hurry.

* Alex Okafor---what a great time for him and the team to have him step up and record two sacks, both on bull rushes....one from the outside and one from the inside. Sam Acho played the run well and made a clean catch on the on-side kick. Ed Stinson came up with a couple of good tackles. The Redskins only rushed for 72 yards (16 of which came on Helu's draw play at the end of the first half which led to a FG).

* Larry Fitzgerald---would have had a 120 yard day if the sideline pass he caught didn't get nullified by a penalty. His TD catch, run and two-handed protection of the ball was a superb play. Michael Floyd's TD was a work of art and John Brown made some nifty catches on underthrown passes---which included a huge third down PI penalty that kept a TD drive going. John Carlson and Rob Houlser made contributions and some good edge blocks (although---the -1 yard TE out passes are mind-boggling play calls, especially on 3rd and 2).

*Jerraud Powers---his ball awareness is second to none right now---very impressive, and one has to hope that teammates Cromartie and Peterson start following suit---it all starts with the feet and Powers is using his quick feet to jump routes.

* Rashad Johnson---Johnny on the Spot in this game and it is no surprise because Johnson, while he not flashy, is one of the most disciplined and dependable players on the team. He plays within himself and within the schemes. Interestingly, his pick six was from a spot where Karlos Dansby used to thrive...which begs the thought: "a pick six by any other name smells just as sweet!" Credit Bowles defense and the versatility of players like Rashad Johnson and Tyrann Mathieu (who, yes, badly misplayed Jackson's skinny post TD), but made up for it by pestering passes, blitzing into the face of the QB and scooping up Roberts' fumble wich Johnson helped cause and making a nice return on.

* Chandler Catanzaro---what a Steve Keim gem he is becoming---talk about consistency---wow.

Things to Clean Up:

* the false starts---did not turn out to be too costly, but could if repeated, including the defensive neutral zone infractions.

* the north-south running game, particularly on third and short---still not sure why with Stepfan Taylor the call was an east-west run and not a north south. With Ellington, east-west is fine, but not with Taylor. BA really needs to decide on which RB should assume Dwyer's role. If not Taylor, then it is time to insert Grice into that role. Typically, BA loves to hammer the ball when he has the lead in the 4th quarter---as he did last year, and with Dwyer in the first two games. It sure could have come in handy in this game.

* the -1 yard TE passes. Absurd. There's just no other way to put it, especially with all the other options and talented receivers.

* nickel edge rush and speed---not only for getting some outside pressure but for defending WR screens, RB swing passes and screens. Okafor and Acho are too slow in that role and let's face it, our CBs are not good, dependable tacklers on the perimeter.

* Patrick Peterson---now, it should be noted that playing CB is like playing offensive tackle in that you can be near perfect on every play but the two or three that you screw up on, which is sometimes all anyone notices. However, Peterson, while he likely was very good on most of his coverages, the two TDs he gave up were very lazy plays on his part, which he seems to have the tendency to do sometimes more than just a couple times a game. First of all, if he is going to play press CB, he has to make contact early with the WR---which he did not do on both occasions---in addition, he has to establish inside leverage, unless it's a disguise coverage where the LB or S is bracketing to the inside. With Peterson's speed he should be able to bust his butt to defend fade passes---but he cannot give up the easy inside passes. In both cases yesterday, his reactions were late, he did not gain leverage, did not disrupt the timing of the play and did not play through the ball (like Powers does with his feet and vision). On both plays---not only was technique an issue---so was the effort, and that is unacceptable.

* Ted Ginn, Jr.---yes, he had a couple of decent returns, but he has got to be able to step up and fair catch short punts---one has to wonder where his head is. At this point, do the Cardinals have a better option in Brittan Golden (both for returns and as a #4/#5 WR in the offense) if they activate him from the practice squad?

Most Important Factor:

The Cardinals teamwork. It is being put to the test, and this team appears to be impressively resilient and resolute. This was a big team win for a myriad of reasons.


There have been a few post critiszing Fitz ie past few weels. He may not be the old Larry but there are still only a couple as good in the NFL. He is a sure fire hall of famer and I hope his number hangs from the rafters some day. He must have hands as strong as steel and blocks as smart as his catches. Palmer is sort of a reincarnation of our old QB we picked up that took us to the Superbowl. Maybe not as football smart but nevertheless one toug giu with a big arm. Just hope he can remain healthy or we will never make the playoffs. That hicker we drafted has to be a pro bowler if he keeps this up. Kickers do not get much love but withot this guy we do no win this game. The Cowboys look like the team to beat this year.
 

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One good play doesn't eliminate all the poor choices.

This game yesterday would have been a blowout by the Cards if Palmer didn't have as much rust. There were 3 or 4 passes that would have been TD's that were slightly under thrown. That is just a result of the layoff and injury.

This is a well-coached team that gets wins in spite of obstacles. The biggest story of the season in the wins is the turnoever story. Its amazing how much easier it is to win if you don't throw INT's.

Yeah there was some rust, he had consecutive plays where he had Taylor and Ellington open out of the backfield and just missed both throws. The one to Taylor might have been a big gainer too he was breaking into the clear, just off his fingers.
 

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Helu ran for 8 at the end of the first half and ran for 16 on the very last play of the game. The first of those 2 really mattered, but the last one meant absolutely nothing.
 

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