Game #86-Arizona Diamondbacks (43-42) @ SF Giants (35-47). 6/30/19

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First pitch is set for 1:05 p.m. Arizona time.
 
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Probably a good time to give Peralta a day off. He has been scuffling.
I think they should trade him while he still has value. I love the positivity and leadership he brings to the team. But Locastro could fill in for him just fine.
 

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Pillar driving in all 4 runs in 2 at-bats. :thumbdown

Robbie Ray is not a #2 rotation pitcher.

Why?
 

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Pillar driving in all 4 runs in 2 at-bats. :thumbdown

Robbie Ray is not a #2 rotation pitcher.

Why?

On almost any other team he would be a 4 or 5 due to inconsistency and walks...maybe a 3. That is opinion. What is fact is in his career he is a one hit wonder (2017). A player will show you who is if you allow him to and Robbie is showing who he is.

Today's outing is closer to normal than the last couple of starts where he pitched pretty well.
 

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Pillar driving in all 4 runs in 2 at-bats. :thumbdown

Robbie Ray is not a #2 rotation pitcher.

Why?

I am not sure what sort of coaching he gets from Butcher and how he takes to that coaching. Maybe Butcher is actually getting the most out of Robbie or perhaps Robbie has regressing?
 

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I am not sure what sort of coaching he gets from Butcher and how he takes to that coaching. Maybe Butcher is actually getting the most out of Robbie or perhaps Robbie has regressing?

Robbie has steadily regressed since his All-Star appearance 2 years ago...
 

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Robbie has steadily regressed since his All-Star appearance 2 years ago...

Or was that year the outlier where he simply pitched above his true level? To me 2017 is the outlier.
 

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Andriese loads the bases with no outs. Ugh
 

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Andriese crapped the bed big time. 6-1 giants still 0 outs with some runners on base
 

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And it ends 10-4.

Two days off this week -- Mon. & Thu.

Two 7 PM games vs. the Dodgers at home
on Tue. & Wed.

Then a weekend series vs. the Rockies at
home before the All Star game next Tue.

And a weekend series at St. Louis to follow.
 
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We are 43-43. An average team with an average record. TL has gotten more out of this lineup than most mangers could. Yeah, it is easy to jump on him when a decision does not work out. And sometimes his decisions defy logic. But for every poor decision, he has made many more wise decisions (which are rarely acknowledged) . None of us are mangers, none of us know what goes on behind the scenes. His loyalty to some players remind me of Arians, and it cost him his job. Can we realistically expect to compete with the Dodgers. $$$ says NO. We have 1, ONE, player making more than 7 million. THEY have 7, SEVEN players making more the 17 MILLION. Dave Roberts is an idiot but has the best lineup money can buy. TL will be gone soon, as we will probably miss the playoffs this year. But I don't think he is our main problem, it runs much deeper than that.
 
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We are 43-43. An average team with an average record. TL has gotten more out of this lineup than most mangers could. Yeah, it is easy to jump on him when a decision does not work out. And sometimes his decisions defy logic. But for every poor decision, he has made many more wise decisions (which are rarely acknowledged) . None of us are mangers, none of us know what goes on behind the scenes. His loyalty to some players remind me of Arians, and it cost him his job. Can we realistically expect to compete with the Dodgers. $$$ says NO. We have 1, ONE, player making more than 7 million. THEY have 7, SEVEN players making more the !7 MILLION. Dave Roberts is an idiot but has the best lineup money can buy. TL will be gone soon, as we will probably miss the playoffs this year. But I don't think he is our main problem, it runs much deeper than that.

Unless they completely tank from here on out, there is no way he gets fired. I guess I agree that maybe he has gotten more out of this team than expected but I also think it is fair to say this was really around a .500 team to begin with thus the results are expected.
 

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Unless they completely tank from here on out, there is no way he gets fired. I guess I agree that maybe he has gotten more out of this team than expected but I also think it is fair to say this was really around a .500 team to begin with thus the results are expected.
My opinion is that this is not a .500 team without TL. We are closer to what most of us predicted including 1Sun's 61 win season.
 

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