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Toughest game of the year to judge because in may ways it was played like an exhibition game. The Packers obviously pounded on the Cardinals and had every intention of doing so. The question is, come Saturday will that work for the Packers or not?

What the Cardinals saw is a team that is about as hot as any team in the NFL (save perhaps the Chargers)...and a team that really, as the FOX crew pointed out, "has no visible flaws." They have a very good offensive line, a premier RB in Ryan Grant, one of the more athletic and prolific QBs in the league in Aaron Rodgers, and a quartet of reveivers that includes 2 1,000 yard WRs in Donald Driver and Greg Jennings and a tall, mismatch exploiting TE in Jermicheal Finley. On defense they have three stud space eating DTs: Jolly, Raji and Pickett, a rookie edge rusher in Clay Matthews who is super disruptive...a trio of rangy tough LBers, and a superbly coached secondary led by All-World CB Charles Woodson. Their STs are very good as well. Best of all, IMO, they are the best coached team in the NFL right now, with HC Mike McCarthy pulling the strings on offense and DC Dom Capers calling the shots on defense. We saw this in pre-season and it has carried over in big way during the season.

All this said, as up and down as the Cardinals are, they may have one huge thing in their advantage and that is Kurt Warner's playoff experience. Notice that Warner was taking notes on the sideline and after a couple of series he got a good vision of what he's up against.

The question is, will the Packers playoff inexperience be a factor on Saturday?

My initial sense is that because of how well they are coached, the answer will be no, not much.

So, how can the Cardinals find a way to prevail over these surging Packers?

Well, we will see just how well coached the Cardinals are...and Whiz showed the Packers nothing...and Bill Davis is a Dom Capers disciple who has shown an ability to game plan very effectively.

The Cardinals should be healthy. DRC will play and should play with much more aggressiveness. Boldin will shake off his leg injury and will be hungry. And if they can wrap up Calais Campbell's thumb well enough, he'll be in there as well.

But the real key to the game will be what Russ Grimm can do with the offensive line. He's got to find a way to move those big DTs in the running game and he has to find a way to stifle the Packers' blitzing schemes which often features Clay Matthews looping straight up the middle. The good news is, the big DTs are not great pass rushers...which is why Capers has to send Matthews or one of his LBers up the middle.

If Warner has time and they focus on the mismatches...and rub Fitz off out of motion to give him a step on #21...the Cardinals will have a chance to outscore the Packers.

On the other side, Bill Davis has to prep for this game the way he did against the Vikings where (1) he stifled AP in the running game; (2) he blitzed Farve and kept him off-balance; and (3) he covered the tall pass-catching TE Shiancoe well. The one added problem to account for is Rodgers' ability to run.

As for today's game, the positives we can take from it were the play of the young secondary players Rashad Johnson, Michael Adams and Greg Toler. They got beat some, but they were close and they hit people and played aggressively. I thought Johnson in particular was impressive. Please do not blame Adams for getting beat deep middle by Jordy Nelson. The FS guessed wrong on the play and bit inside...few CBs ever can defed the whole field. And I thought that on Adams' interference penalty that it was Greg Jennings who was holding Adams' hand, not vice versa.

I also think it was classy of Whiz to play Brian St. Pierre. While St. Pierre, like Matt Leinart, struggled, he was able to complete his first pass ever and his first TD pass.

And Ben Graham's tying of the punting inside the 20 NFL record...that and Boldin's 5th 1,00 yard season were the milestones of the day.

But the play of the game was Ralph Brown's interception...and maybe that was a good tiding in the sense that it gave the Cardinals an iota of momentum heading into Saturday's game and it was Brown who came out of nowhere to lift the Cardinals up in the playoffs last year.

The negatives were playing players that should not have been on the field...like Boldin (sprained knee) and Fitz in the second half...like Calais Campbell in the second half where he fractured his thumb and now could be out for Saturday's game (likely needs screws inserted). There was absolutlely no point of playing any of the key players in that second half. Even worse they had to endure a pounding as the Packers were by far the more physical team. Actually the disparity in physicality was embarrassing especially for a home game, starting with DRC running away from the first tackle of the game on the slant pass to Donald Driver...and Levi Brown allowing his man a free path to Warner on what was a mere wrist flip move...and these guys just got Pro Bowl consideration?
 
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Thanks Mitch.

Another concern...was Rodgers even touched today? If we dont get alot of hits on him next week, today might be duplicated.
 

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Soft is an apt description of this football team. Hit 'em in the mouth and they run home to mommy.

An embarrassment to their fans.

Obviously Whisenhunt and Grimm didn't bring any Steeler mentality to Arizona.

Thankfully we have one of the best finesse offenses in the NFL and so are still a threat to win any game. But as a fan its just awful watching our DBs play Monty Python. "run away" "run away".
 

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If we can't get to Rodgers next week it'll be on nobody but us. I believe they lead the NFL in sacks allowed? Rodgers holds the ball waiting for the big play and their OL isn't very good in pass blocking. He's been sacked 50 times this season.

They're a good team they are certainly capable of beating us next week but nothing this week meant anything other than with no gameplan at all they were able to beat us.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't our leading tackler today a guy we signed off the street a couple of weeks ago?
 

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If we can't get to Rodgers next week it'll be on nobody but us. I believe they lead the NFL in sacks allowed? Rodgers holds the ball waiting for the big play and their OL isn't very good in pass blocking. He's been sacked 50 times this season.

They're a good team they are certainly capable of beating us next week but nothing this week meant anything other than with no gameplan at all they were able to beat us.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't our leading tackler today a guy we signed off the street a couple of weeks ago?

I'm really hoping our pass rush was the thing most impacted by the fact that this was a meaningless game, and that Davis has a game plan ready for next week and just wasn't showing his cards.
 

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But the play of the game was Ralph Brown's interception...and maybe that was a good tiding in the sense that it gave the Cardinals an iota of momentum heading into Saturday's game and it was Brown who came out of nowhere to lift the Cardinals up in the playoffs last year.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing Mitch. Hope we're right!
 

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Another concern...was Rodgers even touched today? If we dont get alot of hits on him next week, today might be duplicated.
He was sacked once but for the most part no pressures. But we did not have DD playing most of the game and hardly any blitzes.
 

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I also think it was classy of Whiz to play Brian St. Pierre. While St. Pierre, like Matt Leinart, struggled, he was able to complete his first pass ever and his first TD pass.

And Ben Graham's tying of the punting inside the 20 NFL record...that and Boldin's 5th 1,00 yard season were the milestones of the day.
Add Fitz's record 13 TD's in a season.
 

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If we can't get to Rodgers next week it'll be on nobody but us. I believe they lead the NFL in sacks allowed? Rodgers holds the ball waiting for the big play and their OL isn't very good in pass blocking. He's been sacked 50 times this season.
But they improved significantly in the second half of the season.
 

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Thanks Mitch------that was a truly quality assessment of the game today. We may have witnessed a ***** in Coach Whizenhunt's armour as well. In trying to determine his path through the dilemma that was, (a.) play all the starters and try to win the game, or (b.) start the seconds and protect the starters while enduring what would likely be an embarrasing loss at home, he accomplished neither.

It would seem to me that if, he intended to rest his starters for ANY time, then he should have rested them completely. By failing to do so, we sufferred injuries to DRC, Calais Campbell, Boldin, AND THE PSYCHE OF THIS VERY UNSTABLE TEAM.
Coupling this embarrasing loss at home, with the obvious injuries incurred by key personnel, cannot possibly accomplish anything good for the mental discipline of this already fragile group. This team has shown over and over that it has trouble taking the next step. The indicisive, and mixed message sent by the Coach today, appears to have only created greater harm than resting starters would have done by way of injury, and has created greater anxiety among the already fragile psyche of this team.

I can see nothing good to take from this game today. Sorry, but that is the way I see it.
 
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What I take from today is that we got to scout the Packers and they didn't get to scout us. *IF* Whiz and his staff are any good they will come out with a masterful game plan since the Packers didn't seem to hide their playbook that much early in the game.

We, on the other hand, showed the Packers nothing and if last year was any indication, I am confident that Whiz will have many tricks up his sleeve. Maybe we go smashmouth for a while? Maybe we bring back the flee flicker? Who knows but win or lose I am sure we will see exciting play from our guys next week, Warner will have a great game (has this guy ever had a bad playoff game?) and we will forget all about what happened this week.

Go Cards!
 

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Just a few things I feel I should correct as a Packer fan. Not here to talk trash or anything but enjoy the competition of the game as a fan. I always enjoyed seeing the inside of a team through another fans opinions before I took of this sports journalism gig.

The Packers a very undisciplined team. All season long they've been the leader in committed penalties or have been somewhere amongst the top 5. Of course this all depends on the officiating crew because the Packers physical secondary prefers to press receivers and depending on how picky the refs want to be they tend to call defensive holding. On offense the offensive line has many issues in the penalty game. Holding and false starts have been an issue for years now since the beginning of his tenure.

The Packers special teams is also one of the worst return teams and coverage teams. Nelson is a solid return specialist but lacks speed to take the ball to the endzone of returns. The coverage unit has given up its fair share of big returns and only a few weeks ago it was voted worst special teams unit in the league by SI.com.

The Packers line leads the league in sacks (50) allowed but that is another misconstrued stat. The Packers are 7-1 in the second half on the season (Only losing by a last second TD to Pittsburgh) and in that time they have only been sacked 14 times.

Positional Breakdown:
Aaron Rodgers; Leads the league in rushing TDs and yards as a QB. Crossed the 30 TD mark this week and only has 7 INTs. He nearly has both 4500 yards and 65 comp %. He has come a long way this season from holding the ball entirely too long to throwing quicker passes and utilizing an elusive group of receivers.

Greg Jennings; Jennings stats are impressive because he crossed the 1000 yard marker with only 68 catches. His ability to go out for a long reception is exceptional for his size but its his ability to weave between defenders after the catch where he defines his title as the "greatest receiver no one has ever heard of."

Donald Driver; The most experienced receiver has deceptive speed and like Jennings has crossed the 1000 yard marker with few catches (15.5 avg). He leads the team in TD receptions but that is soon to change come playoff time as the Packers will continue to attack with a large mismatch by the name of Finley.

Jermichael Finley; 6'5" and once a receiver in highschool (and a bit in college) he possesses great hands and speed. He ran a 40 time at his pro day of 4.62 and has missed a few games this season but still has managed to draw 5 TDs and 676 yards (12.3 avg).

James Jones/ Jordy Nelson; These two split time at receiver and both have talent to line up in the slot or outside. Nelson was the first receiver drafted in his class and has been a role player thus far. His current role is to be a return man, however; Nelson holds enough speed to go out for a deep ball and he also has a nice set of hands to go along with his 6'3" frame. Jones on the other hand has the ability to make big plays just as well as Driver and Jennings. He holds 5 TDs on the season and 440 yards (13 avg) and has increased his role on the team this season.

Ryan Grant; Grant's stats shows he improves as the game continues. If he can manage to get something going early the play action will open up and then Grant truly shines. If the Cards can prevent him from moving early they have a fair shot at forcing sacks and turnovers.

Offensive Line; Clifton and Tauscher are the tackles and part of the success the Packers have had recently. Tauscher was acquired mid-season and has helped the offensive line gain some continuity. Before Tauscher the line had worked with Allen Barbre and an injured Chad Clifton. The interior is an issue. Daryn Colledge lead the league in allowed sacks for quite some time and could be worked early. Josh Sitton has played best on the interior but has had an issue with penalties. Scott Wells is a backup center who has started since early in the season and has played very well.

Defensive Line; Cullen Jenkins has become one of the better pass rushing 3-4 ends in the league. Despite only amassing 4.5 sacks he has been very disruptive an athletic at defensive end. Jolly has continued to be a pass swatting machine. He's very athletic and has a good motor. He may not get sacks or tackles but he clogs up his assignment and has become part of this top ranked rush defense. Ryan Picket and BJ Raji have played nose very well in the 3-4 scheme. Raji is only grasping the concept and has recently increased his role. Pickett has decreased his role but still is a big body at the nose.

Linebackers: Clay Matthews has 10 sacks even though he only played a limited role throughout the first 4 games of the season. He has recently become a very dominant force at OLB earning him an alternate pro bowl selection. Brad Jones has taken over for the injured Kampman and has played better than Kampman. He has collected 4 sacks and plays a lot better in space. He has a lot of speed and he's a relentless pass rusher. Of course no one has heard of him because he comes from a small school and was a 7th round selection. Barnett and AJ Hawk have suprisingly played very well when given the opportunity to rush the passer. They tend to get lost in coverage but they both are excellent tacklers. The only difference between the two is Hawk will flow to the ball when Barnett will move from sideline to sideline and wait for the ball carrier to come to him. Chillar has played well in coverage all season and has rushed the passer well as well. He's coming off an injury though and still needs more time to shake off rust.

Corners: Charles Woodson needs to introduction. If you don't know Woodson you don't have any business reading a message board. He has collected 9 INTs and has played multiple positions to avoid mismatches. Tramon Williams has superior ball skills to Al Harris but he lacks press coverage skills and that physical nature Harris had. Tramon has also been flagged for a few penalties in coverage so expect that to be an issue. Nickel backs Jarrett Bush (Most Hated Packer) and Josh Bell (Recently Signed) both are going to be mismatches. Bush blows coverage often despite having excellent speed and Bell is still unknown, although he played very well in Denver a few season ago.

Safeties: Nick Collins is a ball hawk who has a knack for sniffing out routes and making plays. Tremendous closing speed and pretty solid tackling skills. Atari Bigby has a good set of hands on him and is also a head hunter in the secondary but is known more for being out of position than his big hits.
 

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Thanks Mitch------that was a truly quality assessment of the game today. We may have witnessed a ***** in Coach Whizenhunt's armour as well. In trying to determine his path through the dilemma that was, (a.) play all the starters and try to win the game, or (b.) start the seconds and protect the starters while enduring what would likely be an embarrasing loss at home, he accomplished neither.

It would seem to me that if, he intended to rest his starters for ANY time, then he should have rested them completely. By failing to do so, we sufferred injuries to DRC, Calais Campbell, Boldin, AND THE PSYCHE OF THIS VERY UNSTABLE TEAM.
Coupling this embarrasing loss at home, with the obvious injuries incurred by key personnel, cannot possibly accomplish anything good for the mental discipline of this already fragile group. This team has shown over and over that it has trouble taking the next step. The indicisive, and mixed message sent by the Coach today, appears to have only created greater harm than resting starters would have done by way of injury, and has created greater anxiety among the already fragile psyche of this team.

I can see nothing good to take from this game today. Sorry, but that is the way I see it.

Catfish, everything you said is correct but this team for some reason responds to this type of situation. Count them for dead and here they rise. We did not lose back to back games all seasons, so let's hope that continues next week into the playoffs.
 

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I think Ralph Brown and Warner should race to see who is actually the slower of the 2 :D. I swear,if he wasn't blokced,that the OL would have run down Brown.
 

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