Glennon on the trading block?

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I heard on 98.7 on the way home last night that gannon may be on the block and they mentioned 5 teams including us.

For a third, I would put him ahead of stanton and start grooming him to succeed palmer. .
 

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Haha originally thought you were referring to Rich Gannon.

I do like Mike Glennon and would love to see him with the Cards. I think BA could develop him into a solid starter (maybe in 2016). IMO also a better backup than Stanton.
 
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Haha originally thought you were referring to Rich Gannon.

I do like Mike Glennon and would love to see him with the Cards. I think BA could develop him into a solid starter (maybe in 2016). IMO also a better backup than Stanton.

Yeah, Stanton is simply a placeholder. He played average at best and is more of a fill in while your starter is injured and make minimal mistakes kind of QB.
 

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This time of the year already ?

I was wondering when his name was going to be put on this site with trade rumors.

Would be cool to bring him in as 3rd string for this year, and take over for Stanton next year.
 

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I've never liked this guy's talent and I hope we don't touch him. I think if we're ever to a point where we're counting on him to start a game, we're in a lot of trouble. If a QB starved team like TB wants to get rid of him, I don't think we should be touching him.

I also don't think he represents an upgrade over Stanton. At best, I think they're the same.
 
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I've never liked this guy's talent and I hope we don't touch him. I think if we're ever to a point where we're counting on him to start a game, we're in a lot of trouble. If a QB starved team like TB wants to get rid of him, I don't think we should be touching him.

I also don't think he represents an upgrade over Stanton. At best, I think they're the same.

stanton last 4 games 3TD 0 pick. 51% completion

Glennon last 4 7 TD 4 pick. 58% completion.

Stanton is who he is, Glennon seems better and has far more upside. I think one read Stanton from last year is the best youll ever get as he has been in that system for like 3+ years. Glennon was in a brand new system and his 3rd or 4th system since coming to the NFL.

IMO.

Hes only on the block because they spent their #1 pick on a QB.
 
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I would be fine going after him but not for a 3rd or even 4th.

The question then though:

Would you rather in the 2016 draft
1) spend a late first rounder on a guy who hopefully can play in the NFL
2) spend a 3rd on Glennon who we know can play in the NFL and still has a bunch of upside?


I would rather do option 2.
 

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Ah yes, it the off-season, when every QB sounds like the possible savior. And Stanton, who is widely regarded as one of the best backups in the league, gets called a placeholder.
 

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Throw a fourth at them. That should be enough
 
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Ah yes, it the off-season, when every QB sounds like the possible savior. And Stanton, who is widely regarded as one of the best backups in the league, gets called a placeholder.

Ive wanted glennon for a long while and every time there is talk I have hoped we would go for him. Hes worth a third rounder easy.

And always thought stanton was a placeholder. He is a one read QB that has a good deep ball and plays safe. Hes like alex smith with an arm. Not going to win you games but wont lose you games either. The only reason we wanted stanton back so bad is because logan and lindley are not nfl talents.
 

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Ive wanted glennon for a long while.

And always thought stanton was a placeholder. He is a one read QB that has a good deep ball and plays safe. Hes like alex smith with an arm. Not going to win you games but wont lose you games either. The only reason we wanted stanton back so bad is because logan and lindley are not nfl talents.

Yeah I remember that, I am just ribbing ya. I liked him too but after seeing him play more I am not sure if he has the skill set or mental capabilities to be a moderate to franchise good qb.

While I agree on your analysis of Stanton's on the field play, his role as the backup while he is on the sidelines is really valuable. He understands the offense and is a key cog in helping Palmer on the field. Given how serviceable he is in a backup role, combined with his abilities on the sideline and understanding of the offense, as well as ability to run second team practice, I think placeholder isn't the right word. I don't think he will ever be a full time starter here unless we get desperate or can't find an adequate replacement for Palmer elsewhere.
 
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Yeah I remember that, I am just ribbing ya.

While I agree on your analysis of Stanton's on the field play, his role as the backup while he is on the sidelines is really valuable. He understands the offense and is a key cog in helping Palmer on the field. Given how serviceable he is in a backup role, combined with his abilities on the sideline and understanding of the offense, as well as ability to run second team practice, I think placeholder isn't the right word. I don't think he will ever be a full time starter here unless we get desperate or can't find an adequate replacement for Palmer elsewhere.

I believe he is a good backup.

I am talking about glennon because palmers career is almost over and Glennon could be a potential successor where I do not believe Drew can be. That is where the question comes into play of would you rather draft a late 1st round hopeful QB or trade a third for glennon and start grooming him for it?
 

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I believe he is a good backup.

I am talking about glennon because palmers career is almost over and Glennon could be a potential successor where I do not believe Drew can be. That is where the question comes into play of would you rather draft a late 1st round hopeful QB or trade a third for glennon and start grooming him for it?

I certainly wouldn't give up a third for Glennon. Maybe a late rounder.
 
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I certainly wouldn't give up a third for Glennon. Maybe a late rounder.



so you would go a late first rounder to groom instead? I feel that risk is too high vs taking a young guy that has proven he can play in the nfl.
 

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if we could get him for a fourth or fifth, I'd probably swing that deal. He's shown some pretty good ability in spurts and after last year's fiasco at QB, I'd be more then happy to have Carson, Glennon, Stanton as our QBs, with Glennon possibly being a guy we can build for the future.
 

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Why would we trade a pick for this guy when Keim has been talking about trading players at positions where we have a glut of talent. If the Cardinals are going to trade for a player it better be a player for player trade.
 

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I've never liked this guy's talent and I hope we don't touch him. I think if we're ever to a point where we're counting on him to start a game, we're in a lot of trouble. If a QB starved team like TB wants to get rid of him, I don't think we should be touching him.

I also don't think he represents an upgrade over Stanton. At best, I think they're the same.

Winston, Jameis.... guy probably would rather have a backup gig where he can be groomed to take over rather than be perpetually stuck behind the new chosen one.
 

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I believe he is a good backup.

I am talking about glennon because palmers career is almost over and Glennon could be a potential successor where I do not believe Drew can be. That is where the question comes into play of would you rather draft a late 1st round hopeful QB or trade a third for glennon and start grooming him for it?

If BA thinks he can be the successor than pull the trigger. He took a 4th Round flier on Logan Thomas as a potential QBOTHF and QBs are really tough to come by as any Cardinal fan knows.

This would be a departure because BA said they already have enough money tied up in QB1 & 2. Glennon only represents a $846K cap 2015 cap hit and a $987 2016 cap hit so that given with Keim's NC State man-crush makes this a possibility. Stanton is in the last year of his deal and I believe has a cap hit of $3.8M and if you cut him there is only $667K in dead money.
 
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Why would we trade a pick for this guy when Keim has been talking about trading players at positions where we have a glut of talent. If the Cardinals are going to trade for a player it better be a player for player trade.

because we need a QBOTF before Palmer retires and we spend 3 years with street clowns that take this ish seriously again.

I am sure a possible QBOTF holds more roster weight than a ninth DL or db or whatever.

Plus if we trade out 3 players for 3 picks and then trade one of those picks for a QBOTF we still netted properly.
 
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