Going "all in" 2022...

[Cards_Campos]

Anyone expecting JJ Watt to play more than half a season is smoking crack at this point.

Also, Watt made Jones a “sack machine”?! Where do you come up with this stuff? Jones had 5 sacks in his first game with Watt... then NONE in his last 6 games with Watt healthy.

Your point sort of right. He got hurt and only played in 4 games with watt healthy which goes back to we had major injuries to key players. Jones missed 2 games in October

 

[Harry]

Harry, with all due respect, the season collapse was not because of one player.

They wouldn’t have been dominant but would have stayed competitive. They probably would have avoided a Murray meltdown.

 

[Harry]

In retrospect, the Ertz trade wasn't a good one. We went nowhere and now we're down another draft pick.

Kingsbury‘s offense not designed to exploit TE.

 

[BritCard]

Kingsbury‘s offense not designed to exploit TE.

Exactly why I wouldn't spend too much on him and would stick with Maxx if the cost is too high

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I don't know why people complain about giving away draft picks when you have the worst drafting GM in the league.

 

[slanidrac16]

They wouldn’t have been dominant but would have stayed competitive. They probably would have avoided a Murray meltdown.

I guess we’ll never know.

 

[Stout]

Kingsbury‘s offense not designed to exploit TE.

What I mean is, knowing now how we melted down, I'd rather have not spent a pick on him.

 

[QuebecCard]

Heard the "all in 2021" mantra this past year....then one and done. So, what over the top moves could the Cardinals make to be "all in". I'm sure KK stays, so new HC won't happen. I'm talking trades (draft picks, players, et. al.) coaching changes (DC, DL, adding OC, ???)....

All in is what the RAMS did, not the Cardinals.

They are over the cap, no picks in the first 4 rounds, several hellacious contracts.... but....

They have their rings!

 

[cardpa]

Kliff has disappointed me with many of his decisions. But it was Keim that thought Hopkins, Kirk and Green would be lethal. When Hopkins went down we went right back to last year. Was Moore the wrong pick or was it Kliff fault not finding a way to utilize him better.

Running back. Conner and Edmonds provide a better than adequate combo. But I bemoaned the fact that we needed a third back for depth. When Edmonds went down we ran Conner into the ground. When Conner went down we did the same with Edmonds. Heading into the 2021 season our 3rd and 4th backs had 1 (ONE) touch the previous year. Again is Eno not capable or another failure by Kliff to utilize him.

TE. We went into the season with Max Williams as our guy. Fit the offense well. Our backup TE’s would be hard pressed to make any other roster in the league. This was a solid plan??? So we have to trade for Ertz. Okay. But now there goes another drsft pick and a player we might not be able to sign.

All our shortcomings heading into last year were shored up with a lick and a promise. This year Those same shortcomings are the same and maybe more.

It will be interesting to see the moves we make this year. What mantra will be spewed out to the fans this year. I have one. “Patch Job”. That’s the best we are going to see. Keim will act like the shrewdest GM in the NFL. He will try to convince us we are playoff bound.

We will be lucky to win 6 games. Kliff will be fired on black Monday and we will start the whole merry-go-round again. AND, Keim will still be here.

Now there is a nickname just waiting to be adapted for description "Patch Job Keim"

 

[BritCard]

What I mean is, knowing now how we melted down, I'd rather have not spent a pick on him.

At the time we were 5-0. It was an obvious move to make.

It's no lose really because if we don't resign him we should get the pick back with a comp pick next year.

One thing I learned this year though. Your record after 5 games or 8 games don't mean ****. Start the season 4-4 or 3-5. It's your results the last 9 games that matter most.

 

[Stout]

At the time we were 5-0. It was an obvious move to make.

It's no lose really because if we don't resign him we should get the pick back with a comp pick next year.

One thing I learned this year though. Your record after 5 games or 8 games don't mean ****. Start the season 4-4 or 3-5. It's your results the last 9 games that matter most.

Yep, that's why I said in retrospect. Eh, the shoulds with comp picks don't always work out, and next year isn't this year. As I've said before, I was in favor of the trade at the time, but in retrospect it wasn't worth it. Then again, hindsight is 20-20.

 

[QuebecCard]

Yep, that's why I said in retrospect. Eh, the shoulds with comp picks don't always work out, and next year isn't this year. As I've said before, I was in favor of the trade at the time, but in retrospect it wasn't worth it. Then again, hindsight is 20-20.

Imagine what RAMS' fans would be saying about their 'all-in' had they not pulled it off.

 

[Stout]

Imagine what RAMS' fans would be saying about their 'all-in' had they not pulled it off.

It would be brutal indeed.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Imagine what RAMS' fans would be saying about their 'all-in' had they not pulled it off.

Yeah except they did. All those posters crowing about the Rams mortgaging their future . . . well, it worked.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yeah except they did. All those posters crowing about the Rams mortgaging their future . . . well, it worked.

And they’ve been crowing about it since 2017... when they got to the Super Bowl the first time. And then still had winning records, won playoff games and a Super Bowl in the next four years.

 

[TRW]

The Rams do very well in the later rounds of the draft. The rhetoric seems to be that they have "mortgaged their future" trading their 1st round picks. Yet, they have like 26 or so "home grown" players on the roster. They may be in cap hell, but so are the Cardinals and, I would ask, who has rings in that hell?

I would trade some deep kimchee "cap hell" for the Cards to have a SB trophy in my lifetime. But, I'm resigned that I'll probably never see it.

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

I go all the way back to the 70s and Coryell's Cardinals and who would knock them put off the playoffs then Yep You guessed it the one and only Los Angeles Rams so its de ja'vue all over again

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

I still can’t believe ALL IN last year consisted mainly of wildly spending on a perpetually broken-down and past his prime Watt a washed up AJ Green and a good C who we’d also had to give up draft capital to get... while letting our best young pass rusher walk for 6 million bucks.

Think about this... the biggest producer of the bunch was a running back signed to a 1 year 1 or 2 million dollar deal and Alford (for 13 games anyway) who was signed for pennies on the dollar.

Alford for sure was pennies on the dollar in 2021 but not the 2 years before that lol.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

The Rams do very well in the later rounds of the draft. The rhetoric seems to be that they have "mortgaged their future" trading their 1st round picks. Yet, they have like 26 or so "home grown" players on the roster. They may be in cap hell, but so are the Cardinals and, I would ask, who has rings in that hell?

I would trade some deep kimchee "cap hell" for the Cards to have a SB trophy in my lifetime. But, I'm resigned that I'll probably never see it.

You nailed it. The Rams do better in the later rounds simply cause they have a GM that's good at his job, wish we had that lol?

 

[Dayman]

Keim's 2022 "All In" will likely consist of bringing back Calais for slightly too much money.

 

[BritCard]

The worst thing I can say about Keim's drafting is that I absolutely believe I could do a better job than him. Not "I could do do better if I had his job and all his resources". I could do better if I have my current job and the scant few hours watching draft prospects and he just phoned me up on draft day and said "Hey Brit, who should we pick?". And it would still be better.

We would have had Creed Humphrey in round 2 and Trey Smith in round 6 last year. Two players I was screaming for at the time. Imagine our interior with those 2? We could let Pugh go and save that cap money and have Smith, Hudson and Humphrey as our interior. We would still have Zaven Collins though. He was my round 1 guy. Still have faith in him.

We would have Wirfs instead of Simmons from 2020.

To be fair. I also wouldn't have drafted Kyler. I didn't believe it was fair to judge Rosen with that dumpster fire of a roster and coaching situation. Trevor Lawrence had much more around him this year and was worse to be fair to Rosen. But then if Rosen had sucked again in 2019 we would have been in a position to draft Herbert in 2020 and we would now have Herbert behind a very good O line (No Wirfs Obvs).

 

[Chopper0080]

The worst thing that Keim does is investing big dollars or resources in players at non key positions and paying replaceable players above average money.

Rams top cap hits next year.
DT
CB
QB
EDGE
WR
OT
WR
OT
DT
TE

And the guys they are paying produce. For the Rams Ss and RBs and ILBs are replaceable pieces. They don't invest huge resources on them. And their best players fit their scheme and show up in big games.

Keim gives his coaches pieces they don't want and pays big money for guys who don't fit.

Keim is a clown show.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The worst thing that Keim does is investing big dollars or resources in players at non key positions and paying replaceable players above average money.

Rams top cap hits next year.
DT
CB
QB
EDGE
WR
OT
WR
OT
DT
TE

And the guys they are paying produce. For the Rams Ss and RBs and ILBs are replaceable pieces. They don't invest huge resources on them. And their best players fit their scheme and show up in big games.

Keim gives his coaches pieces they don't want and pays big money for guys who don't fit.

Keim is a clown show.

Akers was a 2nd round pick, right? So that’s a relatively expensive resource.

 

[football karma]

fwiw: Football Outsiders did an analysis that concluded that the Rams are average at day 2+ of the draft.

Rams did prove that a "stars and scrubs" approach can work -- but your stars better be available and play like stars. Theirs did down the stretch.

 

[football karma]

kinda curious what an "all in" offseason would look like for the Cardinals

probably means:

1. Wholesale cap maneuvers to free up lots of space
2. Signing a big ticket FA at a premium position
3. Trading #23 for a upper tier vet in the last year of his contract