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Alway has. He is a fantastic talent evauator. For coaches too. And that fact has disguised his ineptness for playcalling and game management.

Just as an example:

How the hell do you start JJ over Shipp unless you want to strke your ego (in other words, my second round pick is starting).

He sucks.
 

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Again, they have the same number of carries and neither has done anything save JJ's 12 yarder on the first play. Shipp has been in short yardage situations 3 times and lost yardage or got no gain, he's not doing any better than Arrington.
 

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red desert said:
Alway has. He is a fantastic talent evauator. For coaches too. And that fact has disguised his ineptness for playcalling and game management.

Just as an example:

How the hell do you start JJ over Shipp unless you want to strke your ego (in other words, my second round pick is starting).

He sucks.

:rolleyes:
 

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It's the OL.... The moment either RB gets a ball Giants are on him in the backfield.
 
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Russ Smith said:
Again, they have the same number of carries and neither has done anything save JJ's 12 yarder on the first play. Shipp has been in short yardage situations 3 times and lost yardage or got no gain, he's not doing any better than Arrington.

That's kinda my point about green. What do their combined carries total? Why is someone that has never played in an NFL game under center for us? It can only be Green's ego. How else can you explain that? This Kendall thing, as sick and tired as some are of the issue, is coming back to bite him in the ass. Karma is a bitch, especially to ego. No one is going to tell me different.

Three timeouts wasted? Are you kidding me?

Back to JJ. Nothing against him, but if Shipp had been the starter, oh nevermind, whatever...
 
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joeshmo said:

One more thing. If you are happy (or so enlightened that you can rise above the emotion of the moment, then go somewhere else, because this is not the place for you. My team is losing. I have passion for my team and I am not happy that they are losing so I am expressing my frustration. So just move on to another thread.
 

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One more thing. If you are happy (or so enlightened that you can rise above the emotion of the moment, then go somewhere else, because this is not the place for you. My team is losing. I have passion for my team and I am not happy that they are losing so I am expressing my frustration. So just move on to another thread.

If this was the other board I would say something, but for respect for Skorp and the Mods I will just leave it alone.
 

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We played a terrible second half.

I don't think a kickoff return and a punt return for touchdowns is Denny's fault.

I don't think getting all your centers injured in preseason is Denny's fault.

I don't think the new Thunder and Lightning running all over us is Denny's fault.

I happen to think he's ultimately responsible for all this, and other mistakes (like blowing timeouts for poor communication).

If you think starting Shipp would have fixed all this, you are kidding yourself.

It's great that you're disappointed, but don't tell someone else to leave the board because they disagree with your irrational comments.
 
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joeshmo said:
If this was the other board I would say something, but for respect for Skorp and the Mods I will just leave it alone.

Send me a private message and I'll be happy to give you my cell phone number, and even my home address. C'mon, it'll be fun.
 

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Send me a private message and I'll be happy to give you my cell phone number, and even my home address. C'mon, it'll be fun.

C'mon guys keep it civil it's a football game we all hate to see the Cards lose no sense going overboard.
 

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Russ Smith said:
Again, they have the same number of carries and neither has done anything save JJ's 12 yarder on the first play. Shipp has been in short yardage situations 3 times and lost yardage or got no gain, he's not doing any better than Arrington.

FWIW in the first quarter, when the Cards actually tried to run a few times, there wer some holes open...For all the speed that Arrington is supposed to have it is baffeling how he is caught from behind by A d-lineman or doesnt burst through the hole.

I have stayed out of this whole Shipp v Arrington debate, but something is seriosuly wrong with JJ. He is so unsure and I just dont see the speed he is supposed to have...Where is it.

Warner throws him a quick shovel pass over the middle and by the time he turns around and begins to accelerate Clancy is all over him from behind.

Shipp is no better. Honestly we dont have a legitimate starter on this team, but what is scary to me is that I have yet to see any of this supposed speed Arrington has. He can learn to run with a little more decisiveness, but if this is top speed for him, he wont last long in the NFL.
 
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Russ Smith said:
C'mon guys keep it civil it's a football game we all hate to see the Cards lose no sense going overboard.

Russ, check our message history. He's an arrogant @hole. But, for you, I'll chill.
 

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don't think a kickoff return and a punt return for touchdowns is Denny's fault.

I disagree. Failures on special teams are every bit the fault of the coaching staff. You just don't see problems on special teams on most of the top coaches teams throughout history.

It is especially perplexing considering the amount of time DG has spent on getting guys in who are supposed to be good special teams players.
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
FWIW in the first quarter, when the Cards actually tried to run a few times, there wer some holes open...For all the speed that Arrington is supposed to have it is baffeling how he is caught from behind by A d-lineman or doesnt burst through the hole.

I have stayed out of this whole Shipp v Arrington debate, but something is seriosuly wrong with JJ. He is so unsure and I just dont see the speed he is supposed to have...Where is it.

Warner throws him a quick shovel pass over the middle and by the time he turns around and begins to accelerate Clancy is all over him from behind.

Shipp is no better. Honestly we dont have a legitimate starter on this team, but what is scary to me is that I have yet to see any of this supposed speed Arrington has. He can learn to run with a little more decisiveness, but if this is top speed for him, he wont last long in the NFL.

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I am as pissed as the next guy, but there is no way to point all blame at Denny. Special teams sucked (over pursuit), O-Line sucked (injuries and just plain worthlessness), Defense sucked (Clancy's history precedes him now), Offensive playcalling sucked (never established the run and WTF was that reverse?) but above it all it is the first game of the season and both of our main competitors (St Louis and Seattle) lost (assuming St. Louis doesn't come back from the deficit they had when this was written.)

BUT THERE WERE POSITIVES! 1st game... I live and die with this Cards team who dies a lot... But that makes winning so much more fun. I can't condemn them after one game. At least not until I've seen them play in Mexico.
 

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I am as pissed as the next guy, but there is no way to point all blame at Denny.

He's the one in charge, he's the one making the moves, this pathetic McGinnis-like loss lies SQUARELY at the feet of Dennis Green. This is his team, and he purposely neglected the middle of the defense and offense in the offseason, and instead added a rookie RB, rookie G, started the little sisters of the poor at MLB, and an absolute waste of space at CB in Macklin and S in Griffith. Griffith hits like Chuck Cecil... hard, but not hard enough to tackle anyone, and his idiocy early in the game earned Shockey an early TD when Dansby thought he had Safety coverage over-top.

MAN I'm pissed!!
 

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Send me a private message and I'll be happy to give you my cell phone number, and even my home address. C'mon, it'll be fun.

I love internet tough guys.
 

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vince56 said:
He's the one in charge, he's the one making the moves, this pathetic McGinnis-like loss lies SQUARELY at the feet of Dennis Green. This is his team, and he purposely neglected the middle of the defense and offense in the offseason, and instead added a rookie RB, rookie G, started the little sisters of the poor at MLB, and an absolute waste of space at CB in Macklin and S in Griffith. Griffith hits like Chuck Cecil... hard, but not hard enough to tackle anyone, and his idiocy early in the game earned Shockey an early TD when Dansby thought he had Safety coverage over-top.

MAN I'm pissed!!

Preach brother. You are right on the money.
 

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he purposely neglected the middle of the defense

I dont think he purposely neglected the middle of the D. But the point is the same. Davis over inflated value and Ed Hartwell sure would look nice right now, especially with the 5+ mill we still got left. If we only offered a little more $.
 

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red desert said:
Yeah, that's what it's about. You're only like the 500th dude to post that. What's your point?

that what you posted was uncalled for.
 

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Ed Hartwell sure would look nice right now, especially with the 5+ mill we still got left.

You hit the nail on the head, Joe.
 

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vince56 said:
He's the one in charge, he's the one making the moves, this pathetic McGinnis-like loss lies SQUARELY at the feet of Dennis Green. This is his team, and he purposely neglected the middle of the defense and offense in the offseason, and instead added a rookie RB, rookie G, started the little sisters of the poor at MLB, and an absolute waste of space at CB in Macklin and S in Griffith. Griffith hits like Chuck Cecil... hard, but not hard enough to tackle anyone, and his idiocy early in the game earned Shockey an early TD when Dansby thought he had Safety coverage over-top.

MAN I'm pissed!!

Who the hell was he gonna add? I remember Hayes was the talk of this board... Oh wait... he got hurt so he doesnt count. I agree with Macklin being crap. I guess there goes our un-defeated season. better luck next year when we get everything we want for Christmas.
 

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red desert said:
Send me a private message and I'll be happy to give you my cell phone number, and even my home address. C'mon, it'll be fun.

Welcome to your 3 day ban.
 

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