GTA San Andreas

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This game is easily the best I ever played. Amazing.

I am just in the first city and it looks at least 4 times as big as Vice City.

Heck you can parachute from the top of a building in downtown Los Santos.

The graphics are great and the weather effects easily the best I ever seen. I love when it rains.

Instead of just the old police, taxi missions etc you can now rob houses in a black van from 8pm to 6am or you can get into an oltimer pimp-mobile and do pimp jobs.

You can play some basketball, there is some kind of 2 player free roaming mode, the sound track is awesome. You can work out your guy and be ripped or you can eat tons of burgers and play a fat bastard.
 
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Loved this game. The whole city is so big, even as you finished the game its only 40% of the game. So many odd ball jobs and mission. btw have you found any codes to the games?
 
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azdad1978 said:
Loved this game. The whole city is so big, even as you finished the game its only 40% of the game. So many odd ball jobs and mission. btw have you found any codes to the games?

You played through the whole game already?

It was realeased today in europe. I played like 8 hours today and I am still in Los Santos.
 

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You played through the whole game already?

It was realeased today in europe. I played like 8 hours today and I am still in Los Santos.

I'm still in Los Santos. I have a couple of cheats like money and weapons if you need them.
 

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I was in Sam Goodys the other day. They put out 3 inch thick San Andreas game books when I first got there. When I was checking out, onlt 2 were left.
 
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I think I am almost through. I just got my brother back and have to take control of the hoods again.
 

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I'm in the badlands racing. Damn I guess the best cars to drive to the races is the brown SUV since the other cars slips and slide when you reach the grassy areas.
 

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Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Hmm, didn't find a thread for this so I thought I'd start one up.

Has anybody else played this? The single most addicting game I have ever experienced. They found a way to take the incredibly addicting and entertaining Grand Theft Auto game and made it even better. Everything about the game is customizable. You can trick out your cars, change wardrobes, change tattoos, change haircuts, change diets, etc. You have to juggle relationships, health, real estate, etc. And you can hijack anything now, cars, bikes, motorcycles, boats, planes, helicopters.

Toss in the fact that they have ten radio stations playing anything from country to hip hop to talk radio reflecting the early-90's. It's incredible.

Anyone else lose weeks of their life to this one?
 

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comes out on Xbox in June BTW... woo hoo
 

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Sex scene stirs up a fuss over Grand Theft Auto
By Hiawatha Bray, Globe Staff | July 9, 2005

Enough with the endless controversy over violence in video games. Instead, let's talk about sex.

Raunchy, full-contact sex -- the sort of thing you'd see in a porn movie, only with cartoonlike, computer-generated images.

According to some software-savvy game geeks, you can find this kind of seamy excitement hidden inside one of the world's most popular computer games, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

As if Grand Theft Auto lacked for controversy. It's already the computer game that critics of the industry love to hate because of its relentless brutality. GTA has inspired a spate of legislation in such places as Illinois, Georgia, North Carolina, and Washington, D.C., all aimed at keeping violent games out of the hands of minors.

But if Dutch gamer Patrick Wildenborg is to be believed, enemies of GTA have a new reason for outrage.

Wildenborg is a ''modder," a gamer who uses software tools to modify the look and feel of his favorite games. Modders have been around at least since the original version of the popular shoot-'em-up Doom, which encouraged users to tweak the program. These days, many games come with tools to make the process easier. Game makers love it because it helps prop up the sales of older titles. Gamers love it because it lets them use their imaginations to create new game scenarios that the original programmers may never have imagined. And they can share their mods with other gamers by publishing them on the Internet.

Inevitably, some modders have reprogrammed popular games to add explicit sexual content. The popular game The Sims has inspired some steamy mods that enable characters to couple and even get pregnant. But ''Hot Coffee," an eye-popping GTA mod created by Wildenborg and some of his friends, goes a good deal further, with highly explicit images.

It's no big deal if a Dutchman creates a pornographic version of GTA. But Wildenborg said he and his buddies did no such thing. He said the porn movie was built into the game at the factory and his mod simply revealed it. He claims a million people have downloaded ''Hot Coffee" since it was posted on the Internet a month ago.

''All the material that is used during the sex scenes of the 'Hot Coffee' mod are on the official San Andreas release," Wildenborg said. In other words, he claims it's an ''Easter egg," an old tradition in computer programming. Easter eggs are what result when an engineer adds a secret mini-program that does something unexpected and amusing. Microsoft's Excel 97 spreadsheet program, for instance, has a little flight simulation game built in. You just have to press certain keys in the right order, and up it comes.

Wildenborg said it's harder to get at the porno video in GTA. It can be done only on the version for desktop PCs, and it requires running the ''Hot Coffee" program, which changes one bit of data in the computer's memory -- ''the censor flag," as Wildenborg calls it.

''If the censor flag is set, all the sexually explicit scenes are blocked from the normal flow of events," he said. That makes a difference in a game scene when the hero visits his girlfriend's house for a cup of coffee. In the censored version, the game shows the exterior of the house while suggestive sound effects are heard. ''If, however, the censor flag is cleared," said Wildenborg, ''all the explicit scenes are tied into the normal gameplay."

Wildenborg insists that every bit of sex revealed by his mod is built into the game, rather than added by his crew of modders. Take 2 Interactive, which makes the GTA game series, could clarify the matter in a minute, but it won't. A company spokesman said Take 2 never comments on the activities of the modder community. Of course, the question isn't about the modder community at all. The question is whether Take 2 built a mini porn movie into its game in the first place. And the company refuses to answer.

As well it might, because this kind of gag could get Take 2 into trouble with the Entertainment Software Rating Board, the industry-sponsored group that produces age-appropriate ratings for computer games. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas is rated M (Mature). ''The ESRB has very strict rules," said its president, Patricia Vance. Game companies must fully disclose every game feature that might affect the kind of rating it should get. Sexually explicit scenes fit that description.

But the presence of such a scene could well get the game rated AO (Adults Only). That kind of rating could cause major retailers to shove the game out of sight under the counter -- or maybe to not carry it at all. That might have been a reason for Take 2 to hide the naughty bits. But if they did that, and got caught, ESRB could respond by changing the game's rating to AO.

That probably won't happen. Vance said that while the ESRB is investigating the issue, she's inclined to agree with Take 2's take -- that ''Hot Coffee'' is a mod, not an inherent feature of the game. ''He actually had to change underlying code," Vance said of Wildenborg. ''It's not a cheat. It's not an Easter egg."

Even if the dirty pictures were on the game disk when it left the factory?

Sure, said Vance, who added that game developers have been known to deactivate parts of their code without removing them from the finished products. ''Oftentimes changes are made toward the end of development, and they program workarounds," she said. If Take 2 never intended the porn scene to be ''playable content," the company may not be at fault when ambitious modders discover it.

Still, Vance admits the controversy poses new questions about how her group rates games. ''I think it certainly raises issues about what's considered playable content," she said. ''And should there be complete disclosure of nonplayable content?"

Good question. No doubt Vance will sit down with some ''Hot Coffee" and think it over.
 
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Without giving away too much 100%, is the ending worth it? I've played games before that dissapoint greatly in that category.
 

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Just beat it about an hour ago. What a game.
Without giving away too much 100%, is the ending worth it? I've played games before where that was sadly not the case. I'm scared if I buy this game, I'll have no life.
 

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'GTA' Game Rating Changed to Adults-Only
By RON HARRIS, Associated Press Writer

The video game industry on Wednesday changed to adults-only the rating of "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas," a best-selling title in which explicit sexual content can be unlocked with an Internet download.

The decision followed intense pressure from politicians and media watch groups.

Grand Theft Auto's producer, Rockstar Games, said it was now working on a new version of the game that would satisfy the original "M" for mature rating. It said it would provide new labels to any retailer willing to continue selling the version currently on store shelves.

Rockstar's parent, Take Two Interactive, also admitted for the first time Wednesday that the sex scenes had been built into the retail game — not just the PC version but also those written for Xbox and PlayStation2 consoles.

Company officials had previously suggested that a modification created by outsiders added the scenes to the game, last year's best seller in consoles.

"There is sex content in the disc," Take-Two spokesman Jim Ankner told The Associated Press. "The editing and finalization of any game is a complicated task and it's not uncommon for unused and unfinished content to remain on the disc."

The sex scenes, inserted in a game whose main character seeks bloody vengeance on gang-filled streets while pickup scantily clad women, had prompted outrage from parent's groups and politicians including Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.

In a statement, the president of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) said the sex scenes were programmed by Rockstar "to be inaccessible to the player."

But ESRB chief Patricia Vance also acknowledged that the "credibility and utility" of the industry-run board's initial "M" rating had been "seriously undermined."

Many retailers sell "M" rated games, which "may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older," according to the rating board. but won't sell "AO"-labeled games at all.

Take-Two also said Wednesday that it expects to suffer financially. It lowered its expectations for its current quarter and fiscal year to set aside funds for returns of the games, and figured that net sales could decrease by more than $50 million during the quarter ending July 31.

Shares of Take-Two rose 12 cents to close at $27.07 on the Nasdaq, but later dropped $3.07, or 11.3 percent, in after-hours activity.

The ratings change was vindication for Patrick Wildenbourg, the Dutch programmer who developed and freely distributed the modification that unlocked the controversial content in the game's PC version.

Such "mods" are wildly popular in the hardcore gaming community and — authorized or not — exploit the medium's interactive nature to extend the playing life of many popular titles.

Take-Two president Paul Eibeler stressed in a statement that only an unauthorized "mod" makes the sex scenes available, and said "the decision to re-rate a game based on an unauthorized third party modification presents a new challenge for parents, the interactive entertainment industry and anyone who distributes or consumes digital content."

That prompted an angry reaction from David Walsh, founder of the National Institute on the Media and the Family, a Minneapolis-based group that monitors the industry.

Walsh criticized Rockstar for what he called a "carefully worded statement" that leaves the impression that "modders" are responsible for the content. "They did not take responsibility for the fact that this code was created within their company and placed on disks and shipped to responsible retailers."

The Parents Television Council, another group that monitors sex and violence in the media, said it was pleased with the rating switch but called on Rockstar to voluntarily recall the game and offer refunds to anyone who purchased it.

"I tip my cap to that first step of showing responsibility," said Tim Winter, the council's executive director. "Phase two needs to be absolutely getting to the bottom of this coding issue. How did it get into that game? How did it get past the ratings board?"

The ESRB was formed 11 years ago amid congressional pressure to crack down on violent video games. The board now issues ratings for more than 1,000 game titles each year.

Game makers must submit a lengthy form describing the most extreme content, and turn over visual samples and scripted dialogue as each game nears the final stages of development.
 

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Memo to parents - The time to keep your kids from this game was not when the sex stuff was discovered. It was when you read the box or heard one of the million reviews of the game BEFORE this new information.

I am 33 and have serious concerns if I should allow myself to play it.
 

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Question,when you go to the stats screen,what is the highest rating that anyone's reached?
Example: I'm at "HAWG" with 38,784 (pts?)
I know that committing further violent acts(especially shooting down police copters) increases your (pts) and subsequently your "nickname" but i was curious as to how high one could go just playing on.
With the release of GTA IV and me not quite ready to purchase my next gen console i've been running around San Andreas wreaking havoc on the local law enforcement for fun.
 

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Just reached 40,000 and Gansta rating. Taking down helo's from skyscrapers with the mini-gun is the ticket. I know that if you get busted the (pts) go down.
Again...just curious as to the highest rating anybody's reached over the years.
 

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<H2>Criminal Ratings
In San Andreas the more crimes you commit the higher your criminal rating goes, just like in GTA3 and Vice City.
There are many ways to increase your criminal ratings: Killing people, blowing up vehicles, killing police, shooting down police helicopters etc.
The table below shows what rating you are at each number (the negative numbers are what you go down to for using certain cheats).


NumberRating
-10000 - -6000​

Crackhead​
-5999 - -4000​
Bitch-made​
-3999 - -2000​
Off-Brand​
-1999 - -500​
Scandalous​
-499 - -1​
Player-hater​
0 - 19​
Vic​
20 - 49​
Square​
50 - 74​
Civilian​
75 - 99​
Rat​
100 - 119​
Snitch​
120 - 149​
Dry Snitch​
150 - 199​
Transformer​
200 - 239​
Punk-ass Bitch​
240 - 269​
Sucka​
270 - 299​
Poot Butt​
300 - 329​
Buster​
330 - 369​
Mark​
370 - 399​
Chump​
400 - 449​
Trick​
450 - 499​
Red-headed Stepchild​
500 - 549​
Peon​
550 - 599​
Pee-Wee​
600 - 609​
Prankster​
610 - 649​
Fool​
650 - 699​
Street Cat​
700 - 849​
Thug​
850 - 999​
Hustler​
1000 - 1049​
Playa Partner​
1150 - 1299​
Mack​
1300 - 1499​
Pimp​
1500 - 1699​
Crime Partner​
1700 - 1999​
Homeboy​
2000 - 2099​
Homie​
2100 - 2299​
Road Dawg​
2300 - 2499​
Hoodsta​
2500 - 2749​
Hard-ass​
2750 - 2999​
Banger​
3000 - 3499​
Lil' G​
3500 - 3999​
Loc​
4000 - 4999​
Jacker​
5000 - 7499​
Shooter​
7500 - 9999​
Foot Soldier​
10000 - 19999​
Hoo-Rider​
20000 - 29999​
Soldier​
30000 - 39999​
Hawg​
40000 - 49999​
Gangsta​
50000 - 59999​
Ghetto Star​
60000 - 79999​
Monster​
80000 - 99999​
Big Homie​
100000 - 149999​
Boss Hawg​
150000 - 199999​
Shot Caller​
200000 - 299999​
OG​
300000 - 399999​
High Roller​
400000 - 499999​
Four-Star​
500000 - 749999​
General​
750000 - 999999​
Godfather​
1000000​
King of San Andreas​
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