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The Illini are ranked #1 for only the third time in history. Both other times, Illinois made it to the Final Four.

Illinois jumps from No. 5 to No. 1 in AP poll
Posted: Monday December 6, 2004 2:09PM; Updated: Monday December 6, 2004 2:41PM




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(first-place votes in parentheses)
Rk. Team Rec. Votes Prv.
1 Illinois (25) 6-0 1,717 5
2 Kansas (23) 4-0 1,700 2
3 Georgia Tech (12) 5-0 1,632 4
4 Syracuse (9) 7-0 1,607 3
5 Oklahoma St. (2) 5-0 1,479 6
6 Wake Forest 6-1 1,397 1
7 Connecticut (1) 3-0 1,383 7
8 North Carolina 6-1 1,354 9
9 Duke 5-0 1,276 10
10 Kentucky 4-1 1,075 8
11 Pittsburgh 5-0 987 13
12 N.C. State 6-0 909 16
13 Louisville 4-1 697 17
14 Texas 5-1 692 18
15 Arizona 5-2 598 21
16 Washington 5-1 524 14
17 Iowa 6-1 496 23
18 Alabama 6-1 495 22
19 Virginia 6-0 481 24
20 Michigan St. 4-2 434 11
21 George Washington 5-1 423 --
22 Mississippi St. 6-2 417 15
23 Maryland 4-2 405 12
24 Wisconsin 4-1 343 25
25 Gonzaga 5-1 267 --
Others receiving votes: Florida 136, Notre Dame 128, Cincinnati 103, Creighton 81, Boston College 35, Oklahoma 29, Marquette 23, S. Illinois 17, Memphis 8, New Mexico 7, Wis.-Milwaukee 6, Charlotte 5, Oregon 5, UAB 5, Hawaii 4, Miami 4, Michigan 3, Pepperdine 3, Arkansas 2, Ohio 2, Pacific 2, Indiana 1, Santa Clara 1, Stanford 1, Vermont 1.


NEW YORK (AP) -- Illinois took an unusual route to the top of The Associated Press' men's college basketball poll.

The Illini, riding their impressive win over then-top-ranked Wake Forest, vaulted from fifth to No. 1 on Monday, moving past three unbeaten teams.

It is the third time in school history Illinois reached No. 1, and this appearance at the top came after the 91-73 victory over Wake Forest, a game in which the Illini (6-0) led by as many as 32 points in the second half.

"It's definitely important because I think it gives you recognition, which fans love, and you hope it helps recruiting," Illinois coach Bruce Weber said Monday. "It establishes you as one of the better programs in the country. When you watch the top of the polls, the teams that get to the Elite Eight and Final Four are usually the teams that are there. It puts us in an exclusive group, and hopefully we can maintain it."

The Illini didn't have to wait long to play as a No. 1 team, hosting Chicago State on Monday night.

Illinois, which also won at Arkansas last week, received 25 first-place votes and 1,717 points from the national media panel. Kansas (4-0) held second with 23 first-place votes and 1,700 points after wins over Nevada and Pacific.

Georgia Tech (5-0) and Syracuse (7-0), the other teams Illinois vaulted, switched places from last week. The Yellow Jackets, who beat Michigan and Georgia by an average of almost 35 points last week, moved to No. 3 with 12 first-place votes and 1,632 points, while Syracuse, which beat St. Bonaventure and Colgate last week, was No. 1 on nine ballots and had 1,607 points.

Illinois' two previous trips to No. 1 lasted one week each, but they both came in seasons when the Illini reached the Final Four.

The first No. 1 appearance was on Jan. 22, 1952, and the second was on Jan. 24, 1989.

"That's really wild," Weber said when told of the other No. 1 rankings, both during Final Four seasons. "We felt since the beginning that we had a chance to be a Final Four team and we're in that elite, special group. Each year there are four to 10 schools that maybe could get there, and we felt that since the start so there's no added pressure.

"We've tried to play different schools early to prepare us for later on. We're looking at the big picture and think we have the capability to get there, but there are so many factors from now to April that could change plans. But barring injuries or something crazy, we think we can be one of those teams."

Wake Forest, which was No. 1 for the first time in school history, dropped to sixth and was followed by Connecticut, North Carolina, Duke and Kentucky.

Pittsburgh moved from 13th to No. 11 and was followed by North Carolina State, Louisville, Texas, Arizona, Washington, Iowa, Alabama, Virginia and Michigan State.

The last five ranked teams were George Washington, Mississippi State, Maryland, Wisconsin and Gonzaga.

George Washington, which beat Michigan State and Maryland on consecutive days to win the BB&T Classic, was ranked for the first time since a three-week run in 1997-98. The Colonials (5-1) have not lost since opening the season at Wake Forest in the Preseason NIT.

Gonzaga (5-1), which beat Washington in its annual intrastate matchup last week, moved back into the rankings after a one-week absence.

Florida and Notre Dame both fell from the Top 25 after their first losses of the season.

The Gators (4-1) lost 72-65 to Miami and fell from 19th, while Notre Dame (3-1) dropped from No. 20 after losing 61-60 to Michigan.

The Atlantic Coast Conference again had seven teams ranked, matching the record for most schools from one league for a second straight week.

The week's only game featuring two ranked teams will be Tuesday night when No. 5 Oklahoma State and Syracuse meet at Madison Square Garden in the Jimmy V Classic.
 
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Three weeks in a row for the Illini, who keep adding more first place votes.

Rk. Team Rec. Votes Prv.
1 Illinois (50) 10-0 1,727 1
2 Kansas (15) 7-0 1,658 2
3 Oklahoma St. (5) 8-0 1,628 4
4 North Carolina 8-1 1,476 5
5 Wake Forest 9-1 1,427 6
6 Duke 8-0 1,388 7
7 Syracuse 9-1 1,307 8
8 Kentucky 7-1 1,220 9
9 Georgia Tech 7-1 1,219 3
10 Pittsburgh 8-0 1,115 10
11 Connecticut 5-1 964 11
12 Washington 8-1 758 18
13 Gonzaga 8-1 732 22
14 Arizona 7-2 720 15
15 Texas 7-2 703 14
16 NC State 8-1 689 12
17 Iowa 9-1 658 16
18 Louisville 6-2 618 13
19 Alabama 9-1 607 17
20 George Washington 7-1 475 19
21 Mississippi St. 9-2 411 20
22 Cincinnati 7-0 297 25
23 Michigan St. 6-2 279 21
24 Maryland 6-2 239 23
25 Virginia 7-1 200 24
Others receiving votes: Marquette 69, Boston College 51, Wisconsin 19, Oklahoma 15, New Mexico 13, Arkansas 12, Oregon 11, Hawaii 8, Creighton 7, Notre Dame 7, Wichita St. 6, West Virginia 4, Miami 3, Florida 2, Fresno St. 2, Iowa St. 2, Old Dominion 2, American U 1, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 1.
 
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wallyburger said:

I like the Zags - good to see a small conference team do well.

And who is their only loss to? :shrug:
 

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Dback Jon said:
I like the Zags - good to see a small conference team do well.

And who is their only loss to? :shrug:

That would be the Fightin' Illini.

But they beat Washington ( higher ranked ), Georgia Institute of
Technology( ranked higher ) St. Louis Biilikens .

Now they will face Okie State. Helluva out of conference schedule. Tourney tough. :cool:
 
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wallyburger said:
That would be the Fightin' Illini.

But they beat Washington ( higher ranked ), Georgia Institute of
Technology( ranked higher ) St. Louis Biilikens .

Now they will face Okie State. Helluva out of conference schedule. Tourney tough. :cool:

Very tough schedule. I was looking at the rankings over lunch - could'nt figure out why voters ranked UW higher than Gonzaga.
 

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Dback Jon said:
Very tough schedule. I was looking at the rankings over lunch - could'nt figure out why voters ranked UW higher than Gonzaga.

Conference bias ??????

Pac 10 vs. WCC.
 

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UW played Gonzaga without Bandon Roy, which is the only reason I can assume voters have kept them below UW. I like the Zags, partially because they do more with less and because Mark Few will take over for Lute Olson after Lute retires in the nest few years.
 

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Dback Jon said:
Probably. How did you end up liking Gonzaga?

I am an NCAA Tournament junkie from way back. I love the early games. About 6 years ago Zags started making noise at the tournament . Then I started catching their games in ensuing years on Fox SportsNet DirecTV package. Bought myself a Zags hat and have been following them every year since. Love the style. Closest thing to the run and gun of the old UNLV and Loyola Marymount years. Basketball in South Florida blows big time. It is football country and football is king. Had to find a real team to follow.

Dan Dickau, Rony Turiaf, Brooke Steppe, et al. Mark Few can flat out coach.
 
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wallyburger said:
I am an NCAA Tournament junkie from way back. I love the early games. About 6 years ago Zags started making noise at the tournament . Then I started catching their games in ensuing years on Fox SportsNet DirecTV package. Bought myself a Zags hat and have been following them every year since. Love the style. Closest thing to the run and gun of the old UNLV and Loyola Marymount years. Basketball in South Florida blows big time. It is football country and football is king. Had to find a real team to follow.

Dan Dickau, Rony Turiaf, Brooke Steppe, et al. Mark Few can flat out coach.

Cool - love the NCAA Tournament. Got to see Gonzaga in person at the 2000 tournament - they played Louisville (and won) the game before NAU played St. Johns. We were rooting for Gonzaga, and they rooted for us (we almost pulled the upset over #2 St. Johns off - had a lead with 13.2 seconds remaining).
 
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MaoTosiFanClub said:
UW played Gonzaga without Bandon Roy, which is the only reason I can assume voters have kept them below UW. I like the Zags, partially because they do more with less and because Mark Few will take over for Lute Olson after Lute retires in the nest few years.

Didn't realize that about Roy.

What makes you think Few will take (or be offered) the AZ job?
 

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The Lobos are creeping up. They play Wake Forest at the pit tomorrow night in front of 18k+ fans.
 

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Dback Jon said:
What makes you think Few will take (or be offered) the AZ job?

For one it's Arizona versus Gonzaga. He'd get more exposure, money, and the opportunity to coach better athletes. And it would likely be a matter of taking over an already top-tier program in a power ocnference as opposed to playing in gyms in the WCC. That being said, he has a good gig in Spokane so it wouldn't shock me if he never left.

I don't even know if he would even be offered the job anyways. UA alums and boosters act like the word of Lute Olson is Gospel and I have a feeling they'll let him hand his job over to one of his mediocre assistants. It would piss me off but not surprise me knowing many prominent alums and the pull Lute has down there.
 

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Dback Jon said:
Three weeks in a row for the Illini, who keep adding more first place votes.
That means diddly squat. I cringe everytime I see UA #1 in the polls.
 
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NMCard said:
The Lobos are creeping up. They play Wake Forest at the pit tomorrow night in front of 18k+ fans.

That should be a good game - NM just destroyed Tennessee there, and the Pit is also tough to play at, no matter how good or bad the Lobos are that year.
 
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MaoTosiFanClub said:
For one it's Arizona versus Gonzaga. He'd get more exposure, money, and the opportunity to coach better athletes. And it would likely be a matter of taking over an already top-tier program in a power ocnference as opposed to playing in gyms in the WCC. That being said, he has a good gig in Spokane so it wouldn't shock me if he never left.

I don't even know if he would even be offered the job anyways. UA alums and boosters act like the word of Lute Olson is Gospel and I have a feeling they'll let him hand his job over to one of his mediocre assistants. It would piss me off but not surprise me knowing many prominent alums and the pull Lute has down there.

I know Few has already turned down a few jobs in power conferences, but Arizona is a top-ten program, so it will be a job in demand.
Biggest mistake North Carolina made after Dean Smith retired was to allow him to pick an assistant as his successor, and the instance that a "Carolina" man coach the team. Maybe Arizona will learn from that.
 

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Dback Jon said:
That should be a good game - NM just destroyed Tennessee there, and the Pit is also tough to play at, no matter how good or bad the Lobos are that year.

The lobos got beat pretty good tonight. Not ready for the big boys yet.

And what is the point of moving the student sections back and filling the good courtside seats with bluehairs that cannot even move enough to get off they're thumbs (besides money). 18k+ is very loud but not as loud as it used to be.
 
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Illini still the One!

Rk Team Rec Votes Prv.
1 Illinois (55) 11-0 1,779 1
2 Kansas (13) 8-0 1,699 2
3 Oklahoma St. (4) 9-0 1,678 3
4 North Carolina 9-1 1,530 4
5 Wake Forest 10-1 1,462 5
6 Duke 8-0 1,434 6
7 Syracuse 11-1 1,333 7
8 Kentucky 8-1 1,257 8
9 Georgia Tech 8-1 1,225 9
10 Pittsburgh 9-0 1,161 10
11 Connecticut 6-1 976 11
12 Gonzaga 9-1 843 13
13 Washington 10-1 842 12
14 Arizona 8-2 733 14
15 Texas 8-2 708 15
16 Iowa 10-1 702 17
17 NC State 9-1 686 16
18 Alabama 10-1 611 19
19 Louisville 8-2 587 18
20 George Washington 8-1 484 20
21 Mississippi St. 11-2 437 21
22 Cincinnati 9-0 342 22
23 Michigan St. 7-2 268 23
24 Maryland 7-2 226 24
25 Virginia 8-1 144 25
Others receiving votes: Marquette 71, Boston College 64, Wisconsin 25, Arkansas 23, Oklahoma 17, Oregon 11, Notre Dame 9, Wichita St. 9, Hawaii 8, Old Dominion 6, Miami 3, West Virginia 3, Florida 2, Fresno St. 2.
 

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Zags beat Okie State in Okie City last night. #12 vs. #3. Gotta move up now.
 

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wallyburger said:
Zags beat Okie State in Okie City last night. #12 vs. #3. Gotta move up now.
That's two Top 5 teams in two weeks. If they beat Mizzou there's no reason they shouldn't be in the Top 10 next week.
 
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MaoTosiFanClub said:
That's two Top 5 teams in two weeks. If they beat Mizzou there's no reason they shouldn't be in the Top 10 next week.
Yup - and only loss to #1 Illinois. Also beat #13 Washinton
 
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Illini #1 again!

Marquette at #22....
UA 17, ASU at 35

1 Illinois (58) 16-0 1,783 1
2 Kansas (13) 11-0 1,730 2
3 North Carolina (1) 13-1 1,636 3
4 Wake Forest 13-1 1,553 4
5 Duke 11-0 1,496 5
6 Oklahoma St. 11-1 1,412 7
7 Syracuse 15-1 1,405 6
8 Georgia Tech 11-2 1,301 9
9 Kentucky 10-2 1,189 8
10 Texas 12-2 1,085 15
11 Mississippi St. 14-2 909 18
12 Connecticut 9-2 904 10
13 Boston College 13-0 823 25
14 Washington 13-2 742 12
15 Michigan St. 10-2 734 20
16 Gonzaga 11-3 723 11
17 Arizona 12-3 666 13
18 Cincinnati 13-1 631 23
19 Louisville 12-3 502 17
20 Pittsburgh 11-2 373 16
21 George Washington 10-2 370 24
22 Marquette 13-1 345 --
23 Alabama 12-3 259 19
24 Iowa 12-3 194 14
25 Oklahoma 11-2 143 --
Others receiving votes: Maryland 109, West Virginia 105, Notre Dame 47, Wisconsin 37, UCLA 23, UTEP 21, Vanderbilt 20, Arkansas 19, Oregon 18, Arizona St. 17, Virginia 12, Wichita St. 11, Miami 9, N.C. State 8, New Mexico 8, Ohio St. 8, S. Illinois 4, St. Mary's, Cal. 4, Charlotte 3, Old Dominion 2, Texas A&M 2, Bucknell 1, Nevada 1, South Carolina 1, UAB 1, W. Kentucky 1.
 

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