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Hakim Hill

Jeff Metcalfe
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 27, 2004 06:30 PM

EL PASO -- Tailback Hakim Hill was dismissed from the Arizona State football program on Monday after his latest team rules violation.

No. 21-ranked ASU will be without record-setting quarterback Andrew Walter, leading rusher Hill and starting safety Riccardo Stewart against Purdue in the Vitalis Sun Bowl on Friday. Walter and Stewart are out due to shoulder surgery.

Sam Keller is getting his first start in place of Walter. Redshirt freshman Josh Barrett will replace Stewart.



Redshirt freshman Rudy Burgess and true freshman Antone Saulsberry will be 1-2 at tailback, followed by walk-on Preston Jones.

“He broke a team rule, we sent him home, and that'll be all for him,” head coach Dirk Koetter said of Hill, a junior who started four games, rushed for 566 yards and accounted for five of the team's six rushing touchdowns.

“It's disappointing any time you lose a player. When you recruit a guy and sit in his parents' living room, then there is a responsibility involved. It's unfortunate when that player can't see it through.

“We always give players second chances, because college is a growing and learning process. But there are certain lines that can't be crossed, and when they are, you have to take the appropriate action.”

Hill, whose father J.D. Hill was an ASU All-America wide receiver in 1970, was suspended for a game because of a temper outburst in the weight room. His latest violation, after arriving here Sunday, was not a legal infraction but enough to use up his last chance with Koetter.

Hill also was disciplined for a team rules violation in March 2003. He had a series of legal problems growing up in Iowa City, the most serious of which was a third degree sexual abuse charge in July 2001.

After a plea bargain, Hill was sentenced to 100 hours of community service and placed on one-year probation for misdemeanor assault. Koetter suspended him for the 2001 season when he was a true freshman.

ASU is without four scholarship tailbacks.

Loren Wade has been out since the fourth game because a school investigation into possible illegal benefits violations. Randy Hill suffered a season-ending knee injury in the fourth game. Cornell Canidate missed the entire season a groin injury that required complex surgery.

Burgess was shifted to tailback from wide receiver and Saulsberry from linebacker. H-back Lee Burghgraef and quarterback Chad Christensen will also be part of tailback by committee against Purdue, as they were in a 48-42 win over UCLA.

Burgess rushed for a team high 186 yards against Stanford on Nov. 6. Those 37 carries took such a toll on his shoulders that he's carried just six times since.

Hill had two critical fumbles in a loss to Arizona on Nov. 26, and since then the coaches appeared ready to turn the page and go with Burgess and Saulsberry.

“You talk about how young guys get better, Antone and Sam Keller are the two guys from an offensive standpoint you've seen a dramatic improvement in,” Koetter said.

Saulsberry's only carries (11 for 37 yards) were against Washington State on Nov. 13.

Burgess said he is healthy and ready to carry the load.

Terry Richardson now is returning punts, something Burgess also was doing against Stanford.

“It's just another opportunity for me to have another breakout game,” he said. “I have fresh legs, I'm running through the hole a lot faster, I'm not getting as tired. I just feel good about the whole situation. The rest has helped me shoulders a lot.

“It's almost like when a situation like this happens, we don't panic, we just try to fight through it and come up with other options.”

Randy Hill and Canidate are expected back next year, and Wade's status remains unclear. Others in the 2005 tailback mix will include Price Wilks, a freshman who is redshirting, and Jarrett Sayas, a transfer from New Mexico State.

ASU's 2005 recruiting class will include Keegan Herring of Peoria High School.
 

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I wish they'd just come out and say what these guys do when they get kicked off the team.
 

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krepitch said:
I wish they'd just come out and say what these guys do when they get kicked off the team.

nosy ;)
 

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krepitch said:
I wish they'd just come out and say what these guys do when they get kicked off the team.

I agree.

I'm glad to have a coach like Koetter who doesn't mess around when it comes to violations (like the staggered benching of defensive players during the UofA game) but I wish they'd just announce what the player(s) did.

Hill just couldn't stay focused on football evidently. Idiot. :hammer:

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CatBoxBackFan said:
I'm wondering if this is just for the game or for next year also?

If you read what Koetter said, it sounds like Hill is done for good.
 
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Brian in Mesa said:
I agree.

I'm glad to have a coach like Koetter who doesn't mess around when it comes to violations (like the staggered benching of defensive players during the UofA game) but I wish they'd just announce what the player(s) did.

Hill just couldn't stay focused on football evidently. Idiot. :hammer:

Go Devils !!

It's a privicy thing,it took 2 months to find out why he was susspended the first time this year.(Yelling at the Strength Coach)
 

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Brian in Mesa said:
I'm glad to have a coach like Koetter who doesn't mess around when it comes to violations (like the staggered benching of defensive players during the UofA game) but I wish they'd just announce what the player(s) did.
That's a bit of an overstatement when it comes to Koetter's hard line stance against idiotic behavior. From my understanding, Koetter gave Hakin Hill multiple chances in the face of repeated screw ups and was still allowed back on the team because of the RB situation and family history. I'd rather have the pothead on the UA football team than this moron.

But I can't really blame Koetter or any college coach including Mike Stoops for putting up with this crap from his players because winning is seemingly the only thing of importance to the guys that pay the bills. If you're going to trade wins for the "right thing to do," you're unfortunately going to be searching for a new job real fast.
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
But I can't really blame Koetter or any college coach including Mike Stoops for putting up with this crap from his players because winning is seemingly the only thing of importance to the guys that pay the bills. If you're going to trade wins for the "right thing to do," you're unfortunately going to be searching for a new job real fast.
Good point.

However, I say good riddance of this bafoon. He was a distraction from the first time they were up in Tonotzona his freshman year (and his older brother who polluted the sideline).
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
That's a bit of an overstatement when it comes to Koetter's hard line stance against idiotic behavior. From my understanding, Koetter gave Hakin Hill multiple chances in the face of repeated screw ups and was still allowed back on the team because of the RB situation and family history. I'd rather have the pothead on the UA football team than this moron.

The main part of it in my opinion is the family history and what ihis dad meant to Coach Kush who still has a huge influence on the program.
 

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Hill was given several chances (a few too many IMO) but for whatever reason he refuses to learn from his mistakes. Props to Koetter for sending him packing...better late than never I guess. His Sun Devil career is definitely over. Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ Hakim.

Rudy will start with Jones and Saulsberry backing him up. But then again it doesn't really matter whose at tailback with our offense does it?
 

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thirty-two said:

I, um, was just thinking, you know, that if they announced what actually happened, it might embarrass the guy into shaping up. That's all, really. ;)
 

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CatBoxBackFan said:
It's a privicy thing,it took 2 months to find out why he was susspended the first time this year.(Yelling at the Strength Coach)

They said something about a weight room incident on the news last night. Thanks for the specifics. Eventually the real story is bound to get out...and on to the internet!
 

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krepitch said:
I, um, was just thinking, you know, that if they announced what actually happened, it might embarrass the guy into shaping up. That's all, really. ;)

Eh s'ok I was wondering what they guy did too, lol :D
 

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krepitch said:
I, um, was just thinking, you know, that if they announced what actually happened, it might embarrass the guy into shaping up. That's all, really. ;)
I'll let you know when I find out it's OK to publically post what had transpired in El Paso....
 

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maddogkf said:
I'll let you know when I find out it's OK to publically post what had transpired in El Paso....
I spent a month one night in El Paso

:barf:
 

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I'll let you know when I find out it's OK to publically post what had transpired in El Paso....

Excellent. Maddog the Insider! :cool:
 

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Ok - here's what I can divuldge. While the team was boarding a bus after a function in El Paso, Hill & Matt Miller started were arguing over who would board the bus first.

Hill got ticked & popped Miller in the eye. Matt Miller's got a shiner & Hakim was sent packing home. Miller needed medical treatment & missed Tuesday's practice.

What a friggin idiot.
 

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