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Colorado is really bad. I mean really bad. And they haven't recruited that badly the past four years.
 

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Colorado stinks but ASU seems to play to the level of their competition. I think ASU wins big, but Colorado may still cover the spread.
 

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OT but I never get tired of your avatar HooverDam. My dream is for Sarver to sell the team to someone who embraces the Suns tradition and gives us back that font!

Back to ASU. With USC playing Stanford, this is a great opportunity to go a game up in divisional standings. Weird, I just said "divisional" with regard to the Pac. Still not used to it.
 

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OT but I never get tired of your avatar HooverDam. My dream is for Sarver to sell the team to someone who embraces the Suns tradition and gives us back that font!

Agreed. I wish the Suns went back to the uni's with the Western font (with longer shorts of course). I do like the new-ish Phoenix bird logo, I'd like to see it re-worked with the font from my avatar.

I'd also kill for a dark purple hat with an orange "P" in white trim in the Western font. Phoenix lacks a team with a hat that defines the city of Phoenix. Usually this is taken care of by the baseball team, but our team is "Arizona" not Phoenix (which I hate for pro teams by the by) so it doesn't work. I'm so jealous of Cities like LA, NYC, Chicago, KC, StL, Boston, etc. that have a hat that defines the City as much as the team. The Suns could have such a hat if they thought to.

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Agreed. I wish the Suns went back to the uni's with the Western font (with longer shorts of course). I do like the new-ish Phoenix bird logo, I'd like to see it re-worked with the font from my avatar.

I'd also kill for a dark purple hat with an orange "P" in white trim in the Western font. Phoenix lacks a team with a hat that defines the city of Phoenix. Usually this is taken care of by the baseball team, but our team is "Arizona" not Phoenix (which I hate for pro teams by the by) so it doesn't work. I'm so jealous of Cities like LA, NYC, Chicago, KC, StL, Boston, etc. that have a hat that defines the City as much as the team. The Suns could have such a hat if they thought to.

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^I like the one next to the Jazz hat, its close, but not quite there. I want just the "P". Just like the Dodgers hat is a simple "LA", the Yankees is "NY", the Pirates have just a yellow "P" on a black hat, etc. Orange P on a purple hat (or black or charcoal gray) could/should become the iconic hat representing PHX.
 

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A lot of recruits are visiting this weekend. Very important to get back on track after the ORE game and hopefully the homecoming atmosphere will impress some of these kids.
 

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A lot of recruits are visiting this weekend. Very important to get back on track after the ORE game and hopefully the homecoming atmosphere will impress some of these kids.

Too bad attendance will only be around 55K and that'll make things look a little lack luster. ASU really needs to reduce SDS' capacity to between 60-65K if they do a Stanford style renovation, or if they build something totally new I hope they don't over build.
 

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Does anyone have a link for the game?

http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4c5f4e548d4c5


On a game note: I'm SO SICK of Noel Mazzone's swing pass obsession. Its a fine wrinkle to have in the play book once in a while, but he goes to that well so damned often is horrible to watch. Every time they call the play I'm just waiting for the grenade to blow up in their hand like it did in the 1st half.

I really hate Mazzone's offense in general, but if ASU goes 10-3, wins the P12 South, etc. its not like they can get rid of him. I just hope there's no thought of bumping him up to HC when Erickson retires.

EDIT: Welp that game went about how we thought it would. Still sick of all the freaking penalties. I can't believe Jarrett still played after that moronic penalty. What a perfect opportunity for Erickson to FINALLY discipline a kid, it doesn't matter if he plays the rest of that blowout, but nope, right back in he goes.
 
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Got back from the game an hour ago. ASU looks pretty good. Next up is UCLA on the road.
 

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On a game note: I'm SO SICK of Noel Mazzone's swing pass obsession. Its a fine wrinkle to have in the play book once in a while, but he goes to that well so damned often is horrible to watch. Every time they call the play I'm just waiting for the grenade to blow up in their hand like it did in the 1st half.


I have no idea how they're going to run it with Robinson and Willie graduating. It's a huge advantage to have two receivers built like TEs blocking on the edge, and they really do knock heads. With smaller receivers, I think that play's going to be a terminal lost yardage machine.

In theory, I get it, though. It keeps the defense spread out and it's a play against numbers. If the numbers are an advantage in the box, they run it. If the numbers are disadvantage, they play-fake and throw the screen with a lead blocker. Defense has to cover the whole field, and you break one tackle and it's a huge play. My complaint is it's ultimately an ego trip for the coordinator and isn't one of those "go to it when we have to have 3 yards" kind of plays, because a receiver misses one block and you're going backwards for 5 (or possibly a turnover).
 

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In theory, I get it, though. It keeps the defense spread out and it's a play against numbers. If the numbers are an advantage in the box, they run it. If the numbers are disadvantage, they play-fake and throw the screen with a lead blocker. Defense has to cover the whole field, and you break one tackle and it's a huge play. My complaint is it's ultimately an ego trip for the coordinator and isn't one of those "go to it when we have to have 3 yards" kind of plays, because a receiver misses one block and you're going backwards for 5 (or possibly a turnover).

Agreed, I think its a fine play once in a while, but Mazzone goes to it so often it just seems like its asking for trouble.
 

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The swing pass for ASU is incredibly ineffective. I would say out of the 10 times they run it per game, it only gets positive yardage maybe twice, any other time it's a lateral fumble, a loss, or no gain. Teams like Oregon use that play also, but they use it very selectively, and it's not telegraphed like most of ASU's plays. It was nice, however, to see a lot more vertical routes by the receivers and actually throwing the ball downfield, they are a much better offense when they are aggressive.

Also on defense, it was nice to see some variety. They actually blitzed a couple times, and I saw a cover-0 called, was refreshing to see some form of imagination. I'm still waiting for the day we see a safety or CB blitz, but I don't think Bray can understand the concept, unfortunately. Burfict will be the #1 ILB taken in the draft, he's starting to play with more instinct, and when you square up with him, it's like hitting a brick wall, no one ever pushes him forward.

This is definitely a talented team, but the un-imaginative coaching is holding the team back from getting over the hump and beating quality teams. Offense telegraphs everything, it's pretty easy to tell what they're doing pre-snap, but it seems like Mazzone is starting to open up the play book a little bit more, which we desperately need. On defense, Bray plays more cover 2 than any team in the country, and that kills us against teams like Oregon who know how to adjust.
 

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I only watched the first quarter but Colorado is a complete dumpster fire. That's going to take 3-4 years to get back at least.
 

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