How The Favre Trade Went Down

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Harlan, Wolf Reflect On Historic Trade For Favre
http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2008/03/04/8/

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by Mike Spofford, Packers.com
posted 03/04/2008

An interesting historical footnote to the Green Bay Packers' acquisition of Brett Favre emerged from the media activities surrounding the quarterback's retirement announcement on Tuesday.

In a press conference in the Lambeau Field auditorium, retired Packers CEO Bob Harlan recalled how back on Dec. 1, 1991, Green Bay was playing in Atlanta and newly hired general manager Ron Wolf was about to take in his first Packers game when he headed down to the field to watch the Falcons' backup quarterback, Favre, during warm-ups.

Wolf already had expressed to Harlan his interest in trading for the former Southern Mississippi star, whom Wolf had rated the top prospect in the 1991 draft. Only Wolf was running the Jets at that time, was without a first-round draft pick, and missed out on Favre by one slot when Atlanta chose him at No. 33, early in the second round and one spot before Wolf was going to pick for the Jets.

Anyway, Harlan began watching Favre, whose last name he couldn't pronounce, during the pre-game, and about 40 minutes later Wolf returned from the field and all but declared he was definitely trading for his future franchise quarterback.

The interesting part is that Harlan thought Wolf had used an on-the-field, close-up look at Favre to confirm "if his arm is still as strong now as it was coming out of college." But actually, Wolf never saw Favre throw that day.

"I started to head down to the field to do that, but I never got down there," Wolf said in a conference call with reporters. "But, what I did learn from that situation was we could acquire Brett Favre, which we eventually did."

What exactly that meant, Wolf didn't clarify. Did he run into someone from Atlanta's front office along the way and make an off-the-cuff trade proposal? Or in his brief conversations with Harlan was he simply assured the team president wouldn't stand in his way, and he was making it look to his new boss as though he had just made a final, definitive evaluation on his targeted prospect?

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Either way, Wolf had Favre in his sights long before that day in Atlanta, and he was determined to make Favre the centerpiece of his new team, even if he expected and received mounds of criticism for trading a first-round pick in the 1992 draft for a quarterback unknown to many.

"I watched that guy play every game his junior and senior year in college - I didn't have to watch him throw that day," Wolf said.

"My belief was always in order to be successful in the National Football League, the one thing you had to do, was you had to have a quarterback. If you didn't have a quarterback, you couldn't win. When we were able to get Brett Favre, I was of the opinion we had a quarterback."

The rest, as they say, is history. Favre, under head coach Mike Holmgren and along with prized free agent Reggie White, went on to lead the Packers to a Super Bowl championship five years later and now, upon retiring, holds virtually every meaningful passing record in NFL history.

While Wolf believes Favre had the talent to succeed anywhere in the NFL, he does believe Holmgren and a talented staff of assistants that included five future head coaches in Steve Mariucci, Andy Reid, Jon Gruden, Ray Rhodes and Dick Jauron provided the right structure and expertise for Favre to flourish.

For Harlan's part, he did stay out of Wolf's way in making the somewhat controversial trade and maintained that leadership approach through the years, letting the football people make the football decisions.

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The Packers' resurgence from the doldrums of the 1970s and '80s always has been viewed as a domino effect, with Harlan hiring Wolf, who then hired Holmgren, traded for Favre and signed White.

"I've always said and I'll always maintain that the foundation that restored this franchise to the elite in the NFL in the '90s was Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren, Brett Favre and Reggie White," Harlan said. "I find it sad today that all of those folks have moved on."

Like many, Harlan expressed surprise at Favre's retirement but fondly called him "the greatest competitor I've ever been around." He ranks as the most marvelous of his many achievements the 275 consecutive starts at quarterback, including the playoffs, and he recognizes that all those games make up not only a part of many individuals' legacies, including his own, but also most of an entire generation of Packers fans' memories, also including his own.

"I just wish him well," Harlan said. "It was a privilege to watch him. I truly mean that. And I talk to people who say, 'I watched Babe Ruth' or 'I watched Lou Gehrig' or 'I watched Johnny Blood.' Well, we watched Brett Favre. That's pretty good."
 
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Farve's greatest legacy: Not all the records, not the 275 straight games, although those are great accomplishments in their own. What will be most remembered about Brett Favre's career is:

it was a pleasure to watch him play the game!
 

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Glad to say I saw him 3 times live in AZ. With the Cardinals winning the last match up at ASU.
 

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While Wolf believes Favre had the talent to succeed anywhere in the NFL, he does believe Holmgren and a talented staff of assistants that included five future head coaches in Steve Mariucci, Andy Reid, Jon Gruden, Ray Rhodes and Dick Jauron provided the right structure and expertise for Favre to flourish.

I think they underestimate what his coaches did early on, Favre made more bone-headed throws than Plummer, early in his career.
I remember watching Packer games early in Brett's career, and wondering why the hell they left him in, I think the fact that Holmgren and Mooch believed in him, gave him the chance to flourish, where other teams/coaches could have benched him.

I always think that Lovie Smith had Favre's early growing pains fresh in his mind, when he was throwing so much blind faith to Grossman.
 

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Didn't Hasselbeck kinda stumble out the gate under Holmgren, too????
 

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My thing with Favre has always been he had one of the 4-5 best arms in the history of football as far as I'm concerned. He got his scholarship strictly by throwing after a practice. They told the story last night during a college hoops game, his dad was teh coach, they ran the option, so nobody was recruiting Brett hard. So Miss had a scout at practice, he asked Brett's dad can we see him throw, after practice he threw about 5 passes and the scout offered him a scholarship on the spot.

Plummer, Hasselbeck etc, none of those guys ever came close to having the type of arm Favre has. He could make throws into such ridiculously tight windows that he was almost impossible to stop. He'd get too cocky and try to make plays that were impossible which led to all the picks of course, but all you had to do is see him make a few throws and you just knew he was going to be awfully good someday.

Even at his current age there's maybe 2-3 guys in the NFL who have as strong an arm as he does, maybe Jamarcus Russell is the only one who comes to mind that might have a stronger arm and he's about 15 years younger than Brett.
 

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Favre was fun to watch. He always made me smile the way he's celebrate with such youthful, childlike jubilation.
 

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Farve's greatest legacy: Not all the records, not the 275 straight games, although those are great accomplishments in their own. What will be most remembered about Brett Favre's career is:

it was a pleasure to watch him play the game!

True. :thumbup:
 

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Favre was fun to watch. He always made me smile the way he's celebrate with such youthful, childlike jubilation.

:yeahthat:

What I also loved was after a mistake, he would shrug it off like "oh man, I'm gonna get them the next series".

Tony Romo has shown a similar moxy.
 

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Even at his current age there's maybe 2-3 guys in the NFL who have as strong an arm as he does, maybe Jamarcus Russell is the only one who comes to mind that might have a stronger arm and he's about 15 years younger than Brett.


Matt Leinart.
 

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Yep he's on the 2-3 guys for sure and at this stage may have a stronger arm.

Favre had / has a much quicker release as well

Marino like. Cutler still kind of winds up, same with Russel.
 

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Favre had / has a much quicker release as well

Marino like. Cutler still kind of winds up, same with Russel.

Yep, I'd argue that Favre had the best arm in my lifetime as a fan. Elway rivals him but John wound up a bit too. Favre had a cannon and he didn't need to wind up to fire it.

Cutler and Russell have great arms and can probably throw the ball as far as Brett ever could, but I don't know if either could make some of the snap throws he made.

Put it this way, Aaron Rodgers had a good to very good arm in college and coming into the draft. I can guarantee at some point next year no matter how well he may be playing, people are going to be talking about how the Packers WR's have had to adjust to Rodgers not having a strong arm. and compared to Brett he doesn't, compared to most guys his arm is plenty strong but it's a noodle compared to Favre.
 

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Man, it sure is sad that Brett died.

Wait? What? He just retired?

Oh. Well that sucks too.
 

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Yep, I'd argue that Favre had the best arm in my lifetime as a fan. Elway rivals him but John wound up a bit too. Favre had a cannon and he didn't need to wind up to fire it.

Just off the top of my head, guys I watched whose arms were as strong as Favre's, in no particular order:

Jeff George
Randall Cunningham
Bert Jones
Steve Bartkowski
George Mira

There were lots more, mostly forgettable. Every other year, at least one big arm comes out of college but very few ever have good careers. Yet NFL guys still slobber over big arms.

The biggest arm I ever saw up close, in person, was Jim Bulger, Marc Bulger's dad. He was third backup to Joe Theismann at Notre Dame when I was there.

He never played in a game but his arm was huge. The Cowboys invited him to camp because of his howitzer arm.

At Notre Dame he was infamous as the guy who bit the head off a live hamster at Frankie's, a local bar/food joint just off campus.
 

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Just off the top of my head, guys I watched whose arms were as strong as Favre's, in no particular order:

Jeff George
Randall Cunningham
Bert Jones
Steve Bartkowski
George Mira

There were lots more, mostly forgettable. Every other year, at least one big arm comes out of college but very few ever have good careers. Yet NFL guys still slobber over big arms.

The biggest arm I ever saw up close, in person, was Jim Bulger, Marc Bulger's dad. He was third backup to Joe Theismann at Notre Dame when I was there.

He never played in a game but his arm was huge. The Cowboys invited him to camp because of his howitzer arm.

At Notre Dame he was infamous as the guy who bit the head off a live hamster at Frankie's, a local bar/food joint just off campus.

I once heard Joe Theismann say he thought Jeff George had a stronger arm than Favre. Too bad he had the composure of a child. What a waste of natural talent.

It makes me wonder sometimes though if Brett was lucky he had Holmgren to help rein him in a little and harness his talent, while Glanville or maybe some other coaches couldn't? It makes me wonder too sometimes if guys like George or Ryan Leaf who had natural talent could have had sucess under the right coach or system with their talent, or if they were doomed to fail no matter what because of their immaturity?

I really thought Ryan Leaf was going to be the better pro than Peyton Manning because I thought he had more natural physical ability than Peyton. I was slightly wrong on that one.

Thanks for the memories Brett. Only 1 losing season with Brett after 2 decades of losing before he arrived.
 
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