LoyaltyisaCurse
IF AND WHEN HEALTHY...
Ginn
Minter
Cromartie
Butler
Lindley
Grice
Housler.
Minter
Cromartie
Butler
Lindley
Grice
Housler.
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I do not want the following on this team next season.
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NJCardFan
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I really don't see Ginn or Cro here next year. Ginn mostly because he's due something like $3.5 million and he simply is not worth it. But Minter is still young as is Grice.
Only Minter likely stays.
schutd
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I do not want the following on this board next season.... heh.
I'd be surprised if Zastudil wasn't back next season...sending Butler packing.
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i dont like our safeties,too slow,jefferson johnson
eastcoastSUN
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I don't want cro back not because we won't be able to afford him but simply for the fact that everytime he whiffs on a tackle, it has a huge impact on the game (ie last week's whiff on Wilson, this week's whiff leading to a fg that would have missed had he made a tackle 3 yds ahead). For a gifted cover corner like himself, this stuff is so frustrating..
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You want Housler back??
LMAO!! Heck no!
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Right now we are hoping that Logan Thomas will become a starter, but the jury is still out. And naturally he'll get two more years to see if that will happen. But based on yesterday's performance, I wouldn't be too quick to dump RL. Unfortunately, he'll again be competing with LT for the third QB spot, a competition he'll probably lose. But this time he'll get a fairer (Sp?) shot. And this time LT will have to show something that he hasn't shown so far.
Could we put either of those two on the practice squad?
BW52
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What about PP? He was burned many times this year and tackled even worse this season.Definately not worth what he`s getting paid.He had a few good games but he was poor in too many.He simply did not play like a shutdown CB.
Cardsmasochist
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I was thinking the same thing. That play gave the 49'ers 3 points due to Cro's whiff. And that was the difference in the game. Of course, if Lindley didn't throw a pick in the red zone we could have at least kicked a field goal.
I expected Lindley to play poor, but what's surprising is how poorly the defense has played the last 2 games.
BIGRED1959
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I got news for ya, Cro has outplayed Patrick Peterson this season....
BW52
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I got news for ya, Cro has outplayed Patrick Peterson this season....
watch out you might get tarred and feathered and run out on a rail.Don`t you know some are sacred cows(Peterson,Matthieu,Fitz).
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eastcoastSUN
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I agree wholeheartedly, PP has by far the clunker of a season, but cro gets on my list since he's on a 1 yr deal and his tackling skills rivals that of DRC (and that ain't pretty). Believe me, I've let PP know about his crappy play and hubris all year on Twitter (not that that makes much of a difference :shrug)
Anyways, back to the topic. Some of cros tackling is so egregious that it likely cost us the game (see his 'effort' on that career run by the dinosaur Sjax in the atl game, where it looked like he was going in to tickle him). I don't want cro on this team next year due to his poor tackling, some of it might be contagious since he's considered a vet at age 30 and it might be rubbing off on the secondary the last few games (26, 32, 22, 21 all seem to not make plays the last few games).
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Lindley is like a young developmental QB in my estimation. He was trashed as a rookie by Whiz and his scheme, then simply thrown away.
If you look at how he has responded from his first NFL start against the Rams, to how he played against San Francisco in his third start, he has made much progress. Given an off season of nurturing by BA and Tom Moore, (quarterback gurus), he might turn out to be a decent NFL QB. He got no shot at all with Whiz, (it was sink or swim). The kid throws a nice catchable ball, and when he does not stare down his receiver, he does pretty well. Correcting that is something that is workable.
If you look at how he has responded from his first NFL start against the Rams, to how he played against San Francisco in his third start, he has made much progress. Given an off season of nurturing by BA and Tom Moore, (quarterback gurus), he might turn out to be a decent NFL QB. He got no shot at all with Whiz, (it was sink or swim). The kid throws a nice catchable ball, and when he does not stare down his receiver, he does pretty well. Correcting that is something that is workable.
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Remember we didn't gamble with Thomas and the practice squad this year? I think we do next year and I think he ends up on the PS. Think about it. Last year we were worried someone else would swoop in and pick him up. This year, he got into one game and preformed terribly (aside from one very fortunate catch and run, a play that looked broken but somehow worked) and can't crack his way into the game this year, even when the second guy goes down. Then, when you get a chance to start you come out with a bad practice and get sent back to the pine. We could put Thomas on the practice squad next year and even someone does claim him, oh well.
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Minter might be a cap savings hit.
I agree with Cro being gone.
Ginn should be gone.
I wouldn't hate Housler back as a 3rd TE at a min contract.
Lindley doesn't bring much...gone.
Butler or Zasty depends on how much the team likes Butler's progression.
I agree with Cro being gone.
Ginn should be gone.
I wouldn't hate Housler back as a 3rd TE at a min contract.
Lindley doesn't bring much...gone.
Butler or Zasty depends on how much the team likes Butler's progression.
HeavyB3
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Minter's so cheap that he isn't going anywhere. I know we all hate him because he's a second round draft pick and has done very little but he can be depth.
I wonder if Minter just isn't athletic enough for the type of MLB we want now. We were very spoiled with having two very athletic, playmaking MLB's last year in DWash and Dansby. We were not expecting to have Dansby when we drafted Minter and the combination of Dansby and DWash really got our defense going last year.
Foote has filled in nicely for one side of the equation, but Minter just isn't a playmaker, which is why we play a lot of Bucannon there. A big fast SS that can thump the run and play some coverage. These two guys were pretty good bandaids this season.
I think we really noticed the lack of a good MLB on defense yesterday.
I wonder if Minter just isn't athletic enough for the type of MLB we want now. We were very spoiled with having two very athletic, playmaking MLB's last year in DWash and Dansby. We were not expecting to have Dansby when we drafted Minter and the combination of Dansby and DWash really got our defense going last year.
Foote has filled in nicely for one side of the equation, but Minter just isn't a playmaker, which is why we play a lot of Bucannon there. A big fast SS that can thump the run and play some coverage. These two guys were pretty good bandaids this season.
I think we really noticed the lack of a good MLB on defense yesterday.
I don't think either Minter nor Carson is any less athletic than Foote, they just aren't as good at playing football, including sorting through blockers, tackling and moving decisively to the right place at the right time. Carson did do some ok tackling, but dragging down after initial contact versus standing someone up - that may be an athletic issue. Regardless, I could care less if either of them is on the roster next fall.
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Kevin Minter ILB Cap # $1,197,354 CutJune 1 Dead money $786,472 Cap Savings $410,882
Not a big enough savings IMO with too much dead money.
I agree with the rest of your post. I believe Cro is gone because he will price himself off the team and will get it in FA.
Dave Zastudil P Cap # $1,697,500 Dead money $272,500 Cap Savings $1,425,000
Zasty being cut and Butler at the min frees up about 1 mil. I wouldn't do it normally but currently we are over the CAP next year by 11 million dollars. If Fitz works with us by doing more than just turning salary into Bonus $ then a big chunk of that can be taken care of.
Larry Fitzgerald WR Cap # $23,600,000 Dead money $14,400,000 Cap savings $9,200,000 By cutting him we save 9 mil. My hope is that there is a far better option that saves even more money.
DD is another big opportunity to save a lot of Cap space.
Darnell Dockett 34DE Cap # $9,800,000 Dead money $3,000,000 Cap savings $6,800,000
I like Powers A LOT as our #3 CB but the Cap savings could be too tempting.
Jerraud Powers CB Cap # $5,250,000 dead money $1,000,000 Cap savings$4,250,000
Point is that our CAP situation will play a huge factor in who will remain on the team and who won't. It isn't just about quality of play but that plus CAP implications.
Simply based on which players get me yelling at the TV then Ginn is the first one of the team.
Ted Ginn WR Cap # $4,000,000 Dead money $1,500,000 Cap savings$2,500,000
Zeno
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I think you are thinking coaching overcomes talent, what we saw against SF might be the best we ever see from Lindley. He never completed 60% of his passes in college and it wasn't like he was playing in a power conference either. That accuracy can't be taught...Lindley is what he is, a fringe 3rd QB, he has the measurables you look for without the actual talent to take him any further.
