If Logan Thomas isn't good enough to start under these circumstances ....

[SissyBoyFloyd]

then why have him on the team. Just think about it. Why would you prefer to lose with Lindley, than give Thomas a chance to show what he might be able to do? To me it is like throwing in the towel. If Thomas is THAT BAD, why keep paying him to sit on the bench? Did we draft him only to run the projector in the film room?

 

[PJ1]

Long term project I guess. Don't believe they ever planned on using him this year.

 

[juza76]

Long term project I guess. Don't believe they ever planned on using him this year.

but he will occupy a roster spot next years,limited chances he will turn in a good qb
wasted pick

 

[GiantCardFan]

Thomas was drafted as a project. If you saw him in college you saw he was not ready to start in the Pro's. Obviously, he hasn't progressed enough this year to step in either. Someone thought he was worth picking. If they stuck him on the PS he could get claimed by another team. So they have no choice but to keep him on the 53

 

[PJ1]

but he will occupy a roster spot next years,limited chances he will turn in a good qb
wasted pick

You may very well be right. Just giving you what I believe the teams plans are for him.

 

[juza76]

You may very well be right. Just giving you what I believe the teams plans are for him.

but is not worth even to be the third qb on the roster,he is completly useless
they could sign this matthews long before,and probably he could give us more chances.
ok rarely u lose 2 qbs but in this case we are throwing down the toilet our chance to make some noize in the playoff

 

[sunsfan88]

Cardinals should have drafted Derek Carr.

 

[oaken1]

starting Lindley is not a testament to how bad LT is.... it is just the coach trying to get a little more live fire experience for the one QB who knows the entire playbook....hoping that will give us the best chance to win in the playoffs.

IMO...he should start LT from here on out anyway...even with a limited playbook....the only thing Lindley has that LT does not...is a losing mindset....but LT has wheels, which Lindley really doesn't.... I would start LT just to see if he has "IT"....some dudes just go in a zone when the pressure is on and find a way to win....we know Lindley does not have it...maybe LT does....I mean hell,...Tim Tebow was a horrible QB for three and a half quarters...then went all pro for the last ten minutes of the game and led the Broncs to the playoffs...maybe LT at least has some of that??...will never know with him riding the pine.
The only thing Lindley has,...is he knows the playbook....I am pretty sure Tom Moore knows it even better....but I don't want him playing QB for the team........

 

[juza76]

Cardinals should have drafted Derek Carr.

right or maybe we could have signed some free agents qb qho are better then stanton
i think even with kile orton or fitzpatrick we could have a chance now.

 

[mrbyte]

I think its more a case of realising Stanton isnt going to make it bacl for the playoffs and knowing Lindley will be our best chance and giving him all the reps he can handle

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I think it's pretty clear when LT is throwing to the wrong person or wrong spot in practice, that putting him in a game means multiple interceptions plus a stat line worse than Lindley's.

Lindley was beyond horrible in that 2012 NY Jets game, that is what LT would look like. At least Lindley will look like a terrible 3rd stringer and not a terrible rookie.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Cardinals should have drafted Derek Carr.

and Carlos Hyde in round 2 .

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

I can't help but think (hope) that this is now just a ploy to make everyone overlook us in the playoffs so we can rise up and kick them in the nuts.

 

[Darkside]

starting Lindley is not a testament to how bad LT is.... it is just the coach trying to get a little more live fire experience for the one QB who knows the entire playbook....hoping that will give us the best chance to win in the playoffs.

IMO...he should start LT from here on out anyway...even with a limited playbook....the only thing Lindley has that LT does not...is a losing mindset....but LT has wheels, which Lindley really doesn't.... I would start LT just to see if he has "IT"....some dudes just go in a zone when the pressure is on and find a way to win....we know Lindley does not have it...maybe LT does....I mean hell,...Tim Tebow was a horrible QB for three and a half quarters...then went all pro for the last ten minutes of the game and led the Broncs to the playoffs...maybe LT at least has some of that??...will never know with him riding the pine.
The only thing Lindley has,...is he knows the playbook....I am pretty sure Tom Moore knows it even better....but I don't want him playing QB for the team........

I agree with your very first point, but disagree with the rest of it. You play to win it all. I'd love to win a playoff game, but if we're counting on luck or a few lucky scrambles from Logan to win one game, then fine, but we're not going to win another. You have to go with the guy who knows the entire playbook, pray he wins and learns against the 9ers, pray he wins and learns his first playoff game, and go from there.

Tebow is an awful QB. Yes, he won one playoff game. You, and others, seem to love Tebow, do you even realize how long it's been since he played competitive football? He was a bad QB then, what makes you think he's somehow improved after NOT playing for these years? It's totally ridiculous, the Tebow comments. I thought the Warner returning comments were ridiculous, but the Tebow comments make those dudes look like little Einsteins.

 

[Darkside]

I can't help but think (hope) that this is now just a ploy to make everyone overlook us in the playoffs so we can rise up and kick them in the nuts.

None of it is a ploy. We're hurting. We have endured too much. It's one thing to lose everyone we did, but quite another to lose your #1 and #2 QB. No team can overcome that. Nobody.

I remember watching in the 70's, teams had some beloved backups, really well liked dudes, that came in and won games. But this isn't 1970. And frankly, even those teams, back then, didn't lose their #1 and #2. It's impossible. It's unfortunate. It sucks so bad.

People expect somehow that BA has something up his sleeve, that he'll somehow pull it out. But that's because he's been so awesome this year. We can't overcome these QB injuries, not in today's football. He's an awesome coach to do what he's done, really awesome, to go 5-3 with a backup. But now at QB #3, and sometimes at #4, there's no way.

It's time to face reality people. BA ran out of quality players, at several positions, all year, but none so important as QB. It can't be done.

 

[NJCardFan]

then why have him on the team. Just think about it. Why would you prefer to lose with Lindley, than give Thomas a chance to show what he might be able to do? To me it is like throwing in the towel. If Thomas is THAT BAD, why keep paying him to sit on the bench? Did we draft him only to run the projector in the film room?

Valid question. It would have been better to have a Brady Quinn or some other unsigned veteran as the 3rd stringer and put Thomas on the practice squad.

 

[WildBB]

Valid question. It would have been better to have a Brady Quinn or some other unsigned veteran as the 3rd stringer and put Thomas on the practice squad.

They could have lost Thomas then. It's a process with him. Aaron Rogers stayed four years on the sidelines. I think in our immediate gratification minds we can give the FO one or two years working with this kid, minimum.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Logan Thomas needs a lot of work.

I do not think it is a problem that he is not starting this year.

 

[Mitch]

Logan Thomas needs a lot of work.

I do not think it is a problem that he is not starting this year.

That's well said.

But, moving forward Thomas' chances of every being "the guy" are very very slim. BA has stated emphatically in the past that if you are going to develop a young QB, you don't develop him by having him hold a clipboard on the sidelines.

The way BA gives his starting QB the vast majority of the reps---does not bode well for a young #3 QB who basically is running the scout team and other team's plays.

Thomas will be moved to TE sooner rather than later, imho.

 

[Jim Otis]

They could have lost Thomas then. It's a process with him. Aaron Rogers stayed four years on the sidelines. I think in our immediate gratification minds we can give the FO one or two years working with this kid, minimum.

Well said WildBB .
The one thing that I think might be overlooked about LT is this , given his height , weight , strong throwing arm , and excellent athleticism , how many really believe that if he had all the mental intangibles to start in year one , he would have been there in the forth round ???

 

[NJCardFan]

They could have lost Thomas then. It's a process with him. Aaron Rogers stayed four years on the sidelines. I think in our immediate gratification minds we can give the FO one or two years working with this kid, minimum.

I understand your point but no one would have picked him up.

 

[redheat]

It's because Stanton is out the entire playoffs. Lindley can run the offense better so they want to get him as many reps as possible.

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

None of it is a ploy. We're hurting. We have endured too much. It's one thing to lose everyone we did, but quite another to lose your #1 and #2 QB. No team can overcome that. Nobody.

I remember watching in the 70's, teams had some beloved backups, really well liked dudes, that came in and won games. But this isn't 1970. And frankly, even those teams, back then, didn't lose their #1 and #2. It's impossible. It's unfortunate. It sucks so bad.

People expect somehow that BA has something up his sleeve, that he'll somehow pull it out. But that's because he's been so awesome this year. We can't overcome these QB injuries, not in today's football. He's an awesome coach to do what he's done, really awesome, to go 5-3 with a backup. But now at QB #3, and sometimes at #4, there's no way.

It's time to face reality people. BA ran out of quality players, at several positions, all year, but none so important as QB. It can't be done.

Yes, I know all of this. I should've used the sarcasm icon.

 

[john h]

starting Lindley is not a testament to how bad LT is.... it is just the coach trying to get a little more live fire experience for the one QB who knows the entire playbook....hoping that will give us the best chance to win in the playoffs.

IMO...he should start LT from here on out anyway...even with a limited playbook....the only thing Lindley has that LT does not...is a losing mindset....but LT has wheels, which Lindley really doesn't.... I would start LT just to see if he has "IT"....some dudes just go in a zone when the pressure is on and find a way to win....we know Lindley does not have it...maybe LT does....I mean hell,...Tim Tebow was a horrible QB for three and a half quarters...then went all pro for the last ten minutes of the game and led the Broncs to the playoffs...maybe LT at least has some of that??...will never know with him riding the pine.
The only thing Lindley has,...is he knows the playbook....I am pretty sure Tom Moore knows it even better....but I don't want him playing QB for the team........

They said he was horrible in practice. We need to sign a experienced QB or draft one next year. Also a big RB.

 

[Buckybird]

That's well said.

But, moving forward Thomas' chances of every being "the guy" are very very slim. BA has stated emphatically in the past that if you are going to develop a young QB, you don't develop him by having him hold a clipboard on the sidelines.

The way BA gives his starting QB the vast majority of the reps---does not bode well for a young #3 QB who basically is running the scout team and other team's plays.

Thomas will be moved to TE sooner rather than later, imho.

Yep! I laughed when we picked him & threw away a 4th rounder on him.

Other than size, arm & a little mobility he never showed much in college worth the gamble.