I'm not giving up on this season yet.

[kerouac9]

Unlike a lot of posters on here last night Im not close to throwing dirt on this 1-2 team. Injuries have depleted this team. I dont expect them to play this badly going forward with a healthy lineup. IF they lose their eighth game of the season then Ill start to worry but it might be enough to get into the post season being 8-8 or maybe even 7-9? Especially since our division is down this year. I cant understand all the negativity towards our own team. Some people would rather lay down than fight. Thats not my mentality or upbringing.

I don't think my feelings really have an effect on how the Cards perform.

 

[Mitch]

Unlike a lot of posters on here last night Im not close to throwing dirt on this 1-2 team. Injuries have depleted this team. I dont expect them to play this badly going forward with a healthy lineup. IF they lose their eighth game of the season then Ill start to worry but it might be enough to get into the post season being 8-8 or maybe even 7-9? Especially since our division is down this year. I cant understand all the negativity towards our own team. Some people would rather lay down than fight. Thats not my mentality or upbringing.

When is the injury excuse going to stop? Injuries are a part of the game. Every team has to compensate.

It's the repeated formula of losing that is so aggravating to the point now where it's infuriating. We all know what the flaws are, but the coaches don't do anything to fix them. These losses are self-inflicted and are a result of poor in-game adjustments. Heck, in a year's time BA couldn't even get a new challenge flag system in place...which cost him several key timeouts last year and yet ANOTHER one last night. Within a matter of seconds it was clear Nelson did not finish the catch to the ground...clear to millions of viewers, but not clear to our HC? This is a continuation of poor planning and organization.

 

[TRW]

Gruden said it best when he said if given time CP can shred anybody. Unfortunately, that is not happening with the line in front of him. He wasn't just sacked a BUNCH last night he was pummeled repeatedly with NO adjustments NO help, empty backfield sets, etc., etc.

For the life of me I can't get BA's obtuse approach to this offense. If you do the same thing over and over expecting different results that's just insanity and ineptitude. I appreciate what BA did his first few years, it was great, but that ship has sailed and he needs to adjust to the rest of the league adjusting to him. He just seems incapable or just buttheaded enough to keep the Whisenhunt-esque head in the sand "the system works" intransigence.

But, I don't get the millions to coach or play the game so what do I know? It is just so frustrating. They should have smoked the Cowboys by halftime IMO.

 

[cardpa]

Gruden said it best when he said if given time CP can shred anybody. Unfortunately, that is not happening with the line in front of him. He wasn't just sacked a BUNCH last night he was pummeled repeatedly with NO adjustments NO help, empty backfield sets, etc., etc.

For the life of me I can't get BA's obtuse approach to this offense. If you do the same thing over and over expecting different results that's just insanity and ineptitude. I appreciate what BA did his first few years, it was great, but that ship has sailed and he needs to adjust to the rest of the league adjusting to him. He just seems incapable or just buttheaded enough to keep the Whisenhunt-esque head in the sand "the system works" intransigence.

But, I don't get the millions to coach or play the game so what do I know? It is just so frustrating. They should have smoked the Cowboys by halftime IMO.

Because it's the players for not executing. If Veldheer would have blocked better, Palmer wouldn't have been sacked so much. Veldheer blocks our defense well in practices. Same goes for Shipley and Boehm. Arians can't change his offense because it's so complicated if he changed it, no one would understand it and he would need 3-4 weeks to teach it. Draft choices like Nkemdiche and Humphries are diamonds that just haven't shined yet.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I thought so to, but what I saw out of Palmer, even with his limited time in the pocket, he still has it. Like I said, if the offense plays well, the defense will follow suit. Just need to get the damn oline fixed to give Palmer more time and the running game a chance.

ST is whole other issue, but if it stills stinks but yet the offense starts to click more, then the ST issues won't be as bad.

When you say "just need to get the damn oline fixed" you realize that it's all either old, injured or sucks. There's no fix in sight. So minimizing that statement with a "just" is kind of another level of delusion.

Palmers not terrible. But behind our oline he may as well be.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Unlike a lot of posters on here last night Im not close to throwing dirt on this 1-2 team. Injuries have depleted this team. I dont expect them to play this badly going forward with a healthy lineup. IF they lose their eighth game of the season then Ill start to worry but it might be enough to get into the post season being 8-8 or maybe even 7-9? Especially since our division is down this year. I cant understand all the negativity towards our own team. Some people would rather lay down than fight. Thats not my mentality or upbringing.

You understand that you have zero impact on the team. Your "fight" is next to meaningless on an old bad team. The cards will always be my favorite team, but that doesn't mean I can't view them objectively. When they've stunk I've called it correctly. When they've been good I've reveled in it. But I believe my eyes. And from last season through three games this year my eyes are telling me this team sucks. And my eyes have never lied to me.

Looks like we are headed back to the good old days of realists being called darksiders who want the team to lose and rose-colored glasses wearers making delusional arguments of absent grandeur.

 

[Lagerfilled]

Yeah, yesterday was a bad loss, but look at the game. Palmer shined. The offense was clicking in the first and second drive and at that time, the o-line was doing ok. The Cards were dominating Dallas on everything.

For me, the Cards players are a mental bunch. When things go well on offense, the defense shines to. When the ST mishaps started, thats when everything went down the drain. That missed field goal was a back breaker. Was it on Dawson, yep, but also that blocking on the field goal was bad and clasped quickly and probably got into Dawson's head.

If they can some how fix the oline issues(or have them figure out away to continue to play like they did on the first few drives) and ST gets their head out of you know what, this team can win games. BUT, we all know ST will never get fix themselves, so I hope someway the oline can get better soon.

The good thing is that they are playing SF next week. What a perfect game to bounce back from.

They are NOT beating SF next week if they run the same team out there. You're absolutely kidding yourself. This is a marginal football team at best with little or no room for error, yet they make 5 or 6 blunders a game and have a coach unwilling to adapt.

 

[Bert]

Yeah, yesterday was a bad loss, but look at the game. Palmer shined. The offense was clicking in the first and second drive and at that time, the o-line was doing ok. The Cards were dominating Dallas on everything.

For me, the Cards players are a mental bunch. When things go well on offense, the defense shines to. When the ST mishaps started, thats when everything went down the drain. That missed field goal was a back breaker. Was it on Dawson, yep, but also that blocking on the field goal was bad and clasped quickly and probably got into Dawson's head.

If they can some how fix the oline issues(or have them figure out away to continue to play like they did on the first few drives) and ST gets their head out of you know what, this team can win games. BUT, we all know ST will never get fix themselves, so I hope someway the oline can get better soon.

The good thing is that they are playing SF next week. What a perfect game to bounce back from.

If you look at our defensive stats, we played an EXCELLENT game outside of a handful of plays. It's just unreasonable, at home, to expect your defense to shut out an offense by Dallas. Especially when your offense does nothing after the first quarter.

So that was encouraging, Palmer played way better than he did the first two games, so that was good to see.

It's just going to be a matter of if we can pull the O line together or not.

Not giving up yet either @Shaggy

 

[gmabel830]

14-2 baby!

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[Shaggy]

They are NOT beating SF next week if they run the same team out there. You're absolutely kidding yourself. This is a marginal football team at best with little or no room for error, yet they make 5 or 6 blunders a game and have a coach unwilling to adapt.

Well, lets hope they don't throw the same team out there. This 3rd game was a different team until the field goal miss. Something turned off (with the oline mostly) when that happened to the offense. Maybe they get it right, or at least better, during the SF game. Now, if they come out sluggish and lose, then I will say the season is over.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Looks like we are headed back to the good old days of realists being called darksiders who want the team to lose and rose-colored glasses wearers making delusional arguments of absent grandeur.

It certainly looks that way. This team flashed some good play in the first quarter, but fell apart due to poor coaching and poor player performance. It appears to be the same thing as last year.

Not looking for much from this team going forward. My confidence in the coaching staff to coach up backup players to fill the injury voids is lacking.

 

[Cardsmasochist]

14-2 baby!

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[Garthshort]

People in Vegas, who know a lot more about FB than I do, figure we'll win on Sunday.

 

[oaken1]

People in Vegas, who know a lot more about FB than I do, figure we'll win on Sunday.

its the standard thing to do,...
but it is not likely az wins.... Niners play hard, they play to win...did you watch their game with the lambs?

 

[Chopper0080]

If you look at our defensive stats, we played an EXCELLENT game outside of a handful of plays. It's just unreasonable, at home, to expect your defense to shut out an offense by Dallas. Especially when your offense does nothing after the first quarter.

So that was encouraging, Palmer played way better than he did the first two games, so that was good to see.

It's just going to be a matter of if we can pull the O line together or not.

Not giving up yet either @Shaggy

You say it is unreasonable to expect a defense to shut out an offense like Dallas at home? Seriously? That is what great defenses do. When the offense bogs down, they step up...especially at home. They gave up 4 TDs...4. They never once held the Cowboys offense to a FG.

In the 4th Q, when the big players step up, our "high level" defense gave up a 5 play, 50 yard TD drive and then the next drive gave up a 4 play, 75 yard TD drive...that is god awful...and don't give me the "they were out there too long" garbage argument. The defense played 45 snaps all game.

Our defense is completely underachieving due to our gym coach of a coordinator.

 

[JeffGollin]

7-9 team that may be lucky to go 4-12

This may be one of those weird years where no team wins more than 9.

Challenge for us is to not mail it in until the ghost of Yogi Berra tells us that "it's over."

So far this year, I haven't seen many teams likely to be consistently good from game to game. It's just one great big roller coaster.

It would be a real tragedy if we were to assume we suck, throw in the towel and watch a few mediocre teams sneak their way into the playoffs. Hang in there, Grasshoppers.

 

[pmacLean]

for those saying a 7-9 team, I'll believe that may (just may, not will) be possible if we beat the Niners, although, I personally think, even with a win there it is unlikely.

now, if we lose to the 9ers, please show me ANY team on our schedule that you believe we can beat ... any team .. if we lose to the 9ers my prediction is 2-14 (maybe 3-14 if we could actually achieve a split against the 9ers)

and as far as I am concerned it all comes down to coaching and co-ordinating ... we have absolutely no talent in Arizona in EITHER department ... BAs use by date is long past, the stench is becoming overwhelming, in ANY other team in the league, Amos would be a fading memory, Bettcher would be gone and the coach would have a competent O-co-ordinator.. we of course have NOTHING in the management department that would evoke a warm, fuzzy out of any rational person ... this is becoming ludicrous ..

 

[mjb21aztd]

49ers scored 39 against the rams so i am def not counting this as a easy win for cards...

I am tryin to be confident bout this season but really not much if a run gm our wr talent is weak outside of fitz. Also oline and corner issues lol so a lot of work needed to be done.

Please play with heart this week cards would be shameful to lose this gm but it can happen .

 

[Vacard]

We'll be bad enough to miss the playoff but good enough to miss out on a qbotf. Fuggit, we're just gonna draft some hybrid anyways or some cement-food inaccurate stud like Josh Allen and miss out on the next Carr, Bridgewater, and Russell Wilson!!!

 

[ARZCardinals]

We got no run game
No o line
Rb out for another 7 weeks
D is folding

And you're optimistic....really...REALLY!!?!

Wake up

 

[Shaggy]

We got no run game
No o line
Rb out for another 7 weeks
D is folding

And you're optimistic....really...REALLY!!?!

Wake up

Yep. I am.

 

[BigRedRage]

You can't "giveup" Just yet there is a good chance this team will be in a 3 way tie for 1st place after next Sunday.... For that reason alone you can't give up on the season however the prospects do look very Bleak....

100%. The division can still be won and we can improve and get healthier as the season comes along. The only way we will be out is if another team gets a death grip on the season and/or we lose division games.

 

[cardcrazy]

100%. The division can still be won and we can improve and get healthier as the season comes along. The only way we will be out is if another team gets a death grip on the season and/or we lose division games.

Completely agree...this team has more talent than most, just need Oline improvement and the offense will move the ball more consistently. I believe our Defense will improve as the season progresses barring any more significant injuries. I'm not giving up yet, Cards can win the West and have DJohnson back for the playoffs. This SF game will tell the tale. Cards need to come out fired up and play that way for 60 min.

 

[wit3card]

we can win the division, but that has to start with figuring out the o-line and a playcall that helps them. Than we need a DLine worth of calling it such

 

[ARZCardinals]

Ya'll are absurd. I'm as much as a 'homer' as anyone. If you can't see this team is REALLY BAD...you aren't watching the games.

They've had 1 good quarter of offense in 12 quarters....and 11 F- quarters
The defense has had 2 good quarters in 12 quarters...and 11 D quarters

They were blown out by Detroit and Dallas (we were there...the stands emptied midway through the 4th quarter)
They squeaked by the Colts

Other than hope ...what in the world would make you say this is a competent team.

Either you guys are super high or super homers because there isn't jack to say this team will be in the hunt.

I'd bet that SF wins Sunday