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http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jordan-Brand-Classic-Practices--Day-One-/

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We got to see a lot of five on five play in the stronger Blue squad—unofficially called “the West” because of the presence of the three players committed to UCLA, and Brandon Jennings headed to Arizona. We’ll be back at the end of the weekend to provide a full evaluation of all the players seen here based on everything we learned from the three days, but the highlight of day one was probably the matchup at the point guard spot of the Blue squad between Brandon Jennings and Jrue Holiday. The two both downplayed the matchup in the media session immediately following the practice -- (Jennings: “it’s just another day at the office” Holiday: “we’ve been playing against each other since the 6^th grade”) -- but there were clearly some competitive juices flowing once things got going.

Jennings started off the practice like a lightning bolt, putting his terrific court vision on display with some full-court one-handed bullet passes placed with pinpoint accuracy, and weaving in and out of traffic with the ball on a string. Jrue Holiday didn’t seem to be get the memo that the players here are preparing for an all-star game, and in his all-business, no-nonsense fashion, quietly began to set the tone for his team by picking up his intensity on the defensive end. His size, strength, wingspan and fundamentally sound defense were a little too much for the smaller Jennings to handle, and the flow of his offense really began to sputter as the tempo of the game slowed down. He looked a little bit frustrated at certain points, either pounding the ball excessively with nowhere to go, or just dishing it out passively and getting out of the way—wanting no business with Holiday, who didn’t seem to show any emotion at all.

The two are almost exact opposites—one a fundamentally sound, old-school no-nonsense throwback, and the other a brash, flashy lightning rod of a character who is seemingly always the center of attention but has more than enough game to back up his mouth. There is no question which one has more upside—Jennings regularly showed off his phenomenal athleticism with a series of 360 and tomahawk dunks—but there is also no question in this writer’s mind which player is going to win more games at the collegiate level. Don’t get us wrong—Holiday has plenty of flaws—his shot was extremely erratic today and his point guard skills unpolished, but he always made up for it with his terrific combination of intensity and basketball IQ.

At the end of the day, both players are going to the exact right programs for their individual styles, and today’s matchup was a fantastic preview of what’s in store for the entire nation next season in the Pac-10. What’s interesting is that at the very end of the practice, when the coaches decided to take score (two quick games to five), Jennings elevated his play significantly and carried his team on his back to victory. He started taking responsibilities and either blowing past the exhausted Holiday or toying with him from mid-range until he found a good shot, also getting his teammates easy baskets. It was here that he provided the highlight of the game, an incredible one-handed lefty slam that came out of absolutely nowhere.
 

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Jennings was named the MVP of his team in this game last night. He had 10 points and 14 assists.
 

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These players are irrelevant. They are both one and dones.
 
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Jennings was named the MVP of his team in this game last night. He had 10 points and 14 assists.

I saw the last 10 minutes of the game. Jennings now has a Bobby Brown gumby fade. He had a helper calling out assists during teh game(telling him how many he had), they mentioned it on the tv although they all liked how demonstrative he was they said it made the game more interesting.

He was quite impressive although the announcers seem to think Tyreke EVans was the best player there. Jrue didn't play all that well, they said during the telecast many scouts think he's the most complete player in the class but he was "surprisingly quiet today."
 
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These players are irrelevant. They are both one and dones.

Jennings is for sure he's openly admitted it. Holiday depends on what he does this year people aren't sure if he's an NBA SG or PG so a lot depends on what he shows at UCLA. I expect he'll play one year he's a better pro prospect than Love(and Westbrook).
 
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Well Michael Beasley, O.J. Mayo, and Eric Gordon were irrelevant, though. Depends on the supporting casts I suppose.

I'd take Beasley off the list it seems like it had been ages since K State won an NCAA tourney game?

I guess the one part of the one and dones I don't like is when they pretend they might come back. I understand why Love hasn't hired an agent if he were to get hurt or workout poorly, but saying the decision isn't made is BS he's been headed for the NBA for years now.

And Friday Mayo did an interview with a reporter where he insisted he wanted to come back to USC but after much debate he decided to go pro so he could take care of his family. Yeah I'm sure that's why you wore NBA logo socks for your NCAA tourney loss and when the plane arrived home in LA after the loss you and Jefferson jumped into a car and drove to las Vegas?

I just don't like it when guys try to play with fan emotions Howland was actually more demonstrative that Love was gone than Kevin was.
 

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I'd take Beasley off the list it seems like it had been ages since K State won an NCAA tourney game?

1988. Also the last year KU played in Nebraska in the regionals and last time KU played in Michigan in the regional finals, and last time KSU was in KU's region. Lots and lots of similarities in 1988 and 2008.
 
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1988. Also the last year KU played in Nebraska in the regionals and last time KU played in Michigan in the regional finals, and last time KSU was in KU's region. Lots and lots of similarities in 1988 and 2008.

Yeah I think Beasley made a fairly large impact in his one year although I'm not yet clear if it's in the long term best interests of K State. He basically guaranteed they give Frank Martin an extension and the rest of the staff. Martin got that job so that Beasley wouldn't ask out of his LOI after Huggins left, he seemed to do an ok job(Martin) this year but I really wonder if he's the best long term choice.

Might be a case where 5 years from now they're wishing they'd hired someone else but they almost had to give Martin the job after this year and that was largely due to Beasley.

Mayo by comparison made a big impact in terms of attendance but not so much on the court. First round loss, 12 loss season, 3rd
place in the conference and now not only is he leaving but best friend on the team Davon Jefferson is apparently telling players he's filing for the draft and intends to leave. Mayo is the one who convinced Jefferson not to file when he failed to qualify at USC and he spent a year doing online courses and qualified. Assuming Davon leaves Mayo's legacy is done at SC unless he helps with future
recruits I guess.

Love is talking about leaving a legacy at UCLA. I think the kid had a hell of a year and I'm glad he came to UCLA but I don't think one year is a legacy unless you win the title. Right now I'd say Cole Aldrich left a bigger legacy at Kansas than love at UCLA since ALdrich helped his team win a title(not that I think Cole is leaving btw).
 
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Well Michael Beasley, O.J. Mayo, and Eric Gordon were irrelevant, though. Depends on the supporting casts I suppose.

It's more than that, I think. The NBA foisted this crap on the colleges with their age limitation thingy. Many kids don't even make a pretense out of attending class and get a year to work on their games.

As time goes on, it will be interesting to see if some good hoops schools quit recruiting these precocious frauds.
 
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It's more than that, I think. The NBA foisted this crap on the colleges with their age limitation thingy. Many kids don't even make a pretense out of attending class and get a year to work on their games.

As time goes on, it will be interesting to see if some good hoops schools quit recruiting these precocious frauds.

The tough part is defining what is real academics. Love made the honor roll at UCLA first semester but admitted during the tournament his schoolwork was suffering because of the tourney and he probably wouldn't make honor roll next semester. Mayo nearly made honor roll at USC first semester and insists he's staying in school and will make honor roll this time around so as not to hurt USC's APR(he has to pass one class).

I've read that Beasley was "eligible" at K State nobody's said more than that. Not sure about Gordon or Bayless.

But you can easily argue that even if Love made honor roll his entire one year at UCLA its still not "legit academics" if he has no intention of graduating.

I don't like the new rule but making it 2 or 3 years will just make it worse as you'll have kids pretending to be students for even longer. I don't know how to fix the problem but I do think there's a problem.
 

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