Is There Enough Cap Space for Dice?

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One of the hardest things about dealing with "unofficial" salary reports is that they are too vague to determine exactly what the first year salaries are.

- There is a report that the Nash deal may actually run over six years, rather than five, which might reduce the first year to about $9 million.

- Reports on the Q deal range from $42 to $50 million. This is a huge range. If it is actually closer to $42, then the first year is probably around $5.5 million. If it is higher range, then it might be closer to $6 million, but perhaps the higher range involves incentives that don't kick in the first year.

If the starting numbers are on the lower end of ranges and the cap is set at $45; it might leave around $2.5 million to re-sign Dice. This is awfully tight and Dice might get a bit more from a team like Detroit.

Would Dice take less money to stay in Phoenix? We may soon find out. Beside the bonding he had with some of the players, Phoenix might make long term financial sense for him. In Detroit, he would be strictly a backup - especially if they try to get minutes for Darko.

On the Suns, Dice would likely start most games and get between 25 and 30 minutes. What difference does that make? Look at the kind of contract Camby got after just one healthy season. On the Suns Dice would be showcased, while he might get lost in the shuffle with the Pistons.

In any case, I think there is a chance Dice will return, but it not as likely as it would be if the Suns had more cap space.
 

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My hunch (here we go again) is that McDyess will end up getting the MLE from someone as part of the fallout from the O'Neal trade. Either the Lakers will want him because they have no front court, or the other team (whoever it is) will want him because they gave up too much for O'Neal.

Just a guess.
 

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I think a sign and trade involving mcdyss would be terrific, how about Dice, and Zarko for Dalmebert... wishfull thinking.
 

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NJYAJ09 said:
I think a sign and trade involving mcdyss would be terrific, how about Dice, and Zarko for Dalmebert... wishfull thinking.
Wouldn't work cap wise. I was thinking of a Marion/Casey for Dalmebert/Robinson deal but I wouldn't want to get so little for Marion.
 

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Maybe one reason we did not offer a contract to a big man is that they wanted to give the impression to McDyess that he will get a large amount of playing time here versus signing anywhere else for more money. Dice has sat on the bench for the last two years and I think the chance to play is more important to him at this point, he's got to want to prove himself on the court, money is more likely secondary to him but probably not his agent.

Speaking of agents does he have the same one he had 6 years ago?
 
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mark1 said:
The Celtics are thinking about bringing him in and giving him the mid level if he checks out medically.

http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=34978
The signing Blount may eliminate this as a destination.
Howard in Houston reduces the likelyhood there.
Giving Darko playing time in Motown might cut his chances there.
Tukoglu in Orlando makes them less of a player.

Atlanta, no way.
Denver, possibly
Lakers, long shot.

Who else?
 

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Short answer? No.

Long answer? No, of course not. ;)


coloradosun said:
The signing Blount may eliminate this as a destination.
Howard in Houston reduces the likelyhood there.
Giving Darko playing time in Motown might cut his chances there.
Tukoglu in Orlando makes them less of a player.

Atlanta, no way.
Denver, possibly
Lakers, long shot.

Who else?

Detroit. Any 'contender' with the MLE and nobody to spend it on.

My understanding is that Boston signed Blount with the EBE, so they still have the MLE to throw at McDyess if they want. That way they can have Denver's old PF/C combo. :p
 

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My understanding is that Boston signed Blount with the EBE

Is that NDUBI EBE, by chance?
 

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Wow Does Marion suck that much???..All I hear everyone talk these days is about trading Marion.
 
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moviebuff316 said:
Wow Does Marion suck that much???..All I hear everyone talk these days is about trading Marion.

The truth is that the Suns do not have that many players other teams want. This is the price of being an extremely young team.

Realistically, there aren't any centers that are actually available in trade that are better than the guys the Suns just blew off when they signed Q.
 

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