IT Chapter Two

[Brian in Mesa]

IT Chapter Two

Release date: September 6, 2019 IMAX
Studio: New Line Cinema (Warner Bros.)
Director: Andy Muschietti
MPAA Rating: N/A
Screenwriter: Gary Dauberman
Genre: Horror
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Starring: Bill Skarsgård, Jessica Chastain, James McAvoy, Bill Hader, James Ransone, Andy Bean, Jay Ryan, Isaiah Mustafa, Xavier Dolan, Will Beinbrink, Teach Grant

Plot Summary: Because every 27 years evil revisits the town of Derry, Maine, IT CHAPTER TWO brings the characters—who’ve long since gone their separate ways—back together as adults, nearly three decades after the events of the first film.

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[Cheesebeef]

I enjoyed the first one, even though I thought it wasn't scary in the least. this one was the same scare-wise, but it's more enjoyable seeing kids take on the supernatural versus the olds here. and good lord... has the director ever heard of an editor? There's no way this movie needed to be 2 hours and 50 minutes.

overall, thought it was pretty bad.

 

[Dback Jon]

I have heard from a number of gay friends that saw this that the opening scene is extremely disturbing if you are gay, and number of them are having PTSD over it.

 

[oaken1]

I have heard from a number of gay friends that saw this that the opening scene is extremely disturbing if you are gay, and number of them are having PTSD over it.

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[Cheesebeef]

I have heard from a number of gay friends that saw this that the opening scene is extremely disturbing if you are gay, and number of them are having PTSD over it.

it's a scene directly from the book, but in the book, it's used in context right after Georgie gets eaten by IT... King's original intent was that IT preys on those most vulnerable in society, the type of people society either doesn't care about, nor protect as well as they should and it was based on an incident that I think took place in Maine the year before the book came out.

without that context (which I had forgotten), it was flat out jarring and disturbing and not in a good way. The scene in no way shape or form connects to the rest of the movie except to just loosely show that "evil" is back in Derry after 27 years. But it was a complete and utter failure in it's attempt to do so and trust me, was disturbing in a really bad way whether you're gay or not.

 

[Dback Jon]

it's a scene directly from the book, but in the book, it's used in context right after Georgie gets eaten by IT... King's original intent was that IT preys on those most vulnerable in society, the type of people society either doesn't care about, nor protect as well as they should and it was based on an incident that I think took place in Maine the year before the book came out.

without that context (which I had forgotten), it was flat out jarring and disturbing and not in a good way. The scene in no way shape or form connects to the rest of the movie except to just loosely show that "evil" is back in Derry after 27 years. But it was a complete and utter failure in it's attempt to do so and trust me, was disturbing in a really bad way whether you're gay or not.

@oaken1 - This.

Yes, it does draw from the book, but as you said, lacks the context of the book, and just seemed (to my friends that have seen it), unneeded.

 

[BigRedRage]

The scene sucked all the air out of the room in the screening, and for a good reason. In a movie where most of the horror is carried out by an evil clown/demon/thing, this gay-bashing scene is a frighteningly realistic event. In fact, King based the death of Adrian on a real-life hate crime. In 1984, Charlie Howard, a gay man, was killed by a group of teens in Bangor, ME. Howard was thrown off the State Street Bridge into the Kenduskeag Stream canal, where he drowned.

“Unfortunately, [homophobic] attitudes in certain places are the same as they were in the ‘80s,” screenwriter Gary Dauberman tells Refinery29 when asked about the scene at the IT Chapter Two junket. “Pennywise is something that sprung from Stephen King’s imagination, but [this hate crime] is something that happens. It happened then, and it happens now. Unfortunately, I didn’t have to change much to make it feel appropriate for 2019, and that is the thing that scares me most.”

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I have heard from a number of gay friends that saw this that the opening scene is extremely disturbing if you are gay, and number of them are having PTSD over it.

That scene is directly from the book.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

it's a scene directly from the book, but in the book, it's used in context right after Georgie gets eaten by IT... King's original intent was that IT preys on those most vulnerable in society, the type of people society either doesn't care about, nor protect as well as they should and it was based on an incident that I think took place in Maine the year before the book came out.

without that context (which I had forgotten), it was flat out jarring and disturbing and not in a good way. The scene in no way shape or form connects to the rest of the movie except to just loosely show that "evil" is back in Derry after 27 years. But it was a complete and utter failure in it's attempt to do so and trust me, was disturbing in a really bad way whether you're gay or not.

That makes sense and was my fear in splitting up the movies this way. The adult stuff would lack impact because the kids scenes were missing.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That makes sense and was my fear in splitting up the movies this way. The adult stuff would lack impact because the kids scenes were missing.

they even did put some of the kids stuff back in interspersed with the adult stuff but it was just repetitive and boring... and just made Pennywise look INCOMPETENT with those kids and adults surviving attempt after attempt to kill them and knowing that none of the kids were in danger in the second one in those moments because they all lived through the first movie.

 

[Bert]

My 2 cents and thats worth almost nothing...

I thought the opening scene was brilliant as I thought it perfectly illustrated that there is evil in this real world that is far more ugly and evil than any "Evil Clown..."

I felt like it was a reminder that hey; before we enter this silly, fantasy world of horror and killer clowns and spiders, let's not forget that worse things happen in this world by the hands of mere humans on a regular basis...

Pennywise is almost laughing like; I don't even have to do the murder, you humans are messed up enough I can just feed off the scraps!

Which when you think about it, is like way scarier than the original story.

A real IT could feed forever just off our own dang brutality in this society!

Just my humble opinion. @Dback Jon