Iverson vs Suns ( interesting )

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Part of the reason Iverson is the only option is because he makes it that way. Chris Webber is a viable option, to say the least. Dalembert is a great rebounder and shot blocker, as long as Obie removes his head from his ass.
 

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Iverson is great but he's a mediocre shooter. last night they laid off him and let him shoot from outside. He made a few, but missed a lot also. If you don't match shots with the Suns, you lose. Webber single handedly lost that game for them when he missed like 3 or 4 jumpers in a row.
 

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Iverson has to be the biggest ball hog in the NBA, and he's killing his own team.

he easily has the most FG attempts in the NBA.....with over 100 more than the next FG happy guy. and that's also factoring in the McGrady has played in 4 more games than Iverson.

Iverson......1575
McGrady.....1455
LeBron........1353

Leading the league in FG attempts while also leading your team in assists tells me one thing.....Iverson has the ball in his hands all the time.

but i must also say that the coaching of that team is some of the worst in the league. O'Brien WILL be fired at the end of the season. and if Philly wants Dalambert to succeed on that team after signing him to a fat contract, O'Brien MUST go. he focuses his offense and defense in the wrong ways. he willingly runs the team through Iverson....something Larry Brown refused to do. and O'Brien just doesnt know how to use the talent that he's got. just look at the stats of Skinner, Thomas, Williamson, and Webber after the trade.



.................Team..........Minutes..FG Mks/Atps....FG%....Blks....Rbds....Pts
Skinner........Philly ..........10.3.......0.9 - 2.4.......38.6.....0.3.....2.6.....2.0
.................Sacramento...29.8......4.1 - 7.3........56.0.....2.2.....9.4.....9.0
Thomas.......Philly............28.6......4.6 - 10.1......45.6.....0.1.....6.6....11.3
.................Sacramento...32.7......5.6 - 11.9......47.3.....0.5.....8.8....14.4
Williamson ...Philly............22.0......4.0 - 8.7.......46.5.....0.3.....3.7....10.8
.................Sacramento...18.4......2.9 - 6.4.......45.1.....0.1.....2.9.....8.3
Webber ......Sacramento...36.3......9.0 - 19.9......49.9.....0.7.....9.7....21.3
.................Philly............33.2......6.8 - 17.6......38.8.....0.7.....7.8....15.8

to me, that's a huge difference. when scrubs become very decent role players, and a star becomes mediocre. Kenny Thomas is playing better than Webber right now.

and thats a combination of two of the worst things on a team....a coach that doesnt fit the system to the players, and a teamate who's more concerned about his stats than anything else.

the crazy thing next year is that Philly has the potential to have 3 players accounting for the salary cap figure. Webber's $19,125,000... Iverson's $16,453,000... and Dalambert's potential $7,000,000+ = $42,578,000+.
 
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asudevil83 said:
Iverson has to be the biggest ball hog in the NBA, and he's killing his own team.

he easily has the most FG attempts in the NBA.....with over 100 more than the next FG happy guy. and that's also factoring in the McGrady has played in 4 more games than Iverson.

Iverson......1575
McGrady.....1455
LeBron........1353

Leading the league in FG attempts while also leading your team in assists tells me one thing.....Iverson has the ball in his hands all the time.

but i must also say that the coaching of that team is some of the worst in the league. O'Brien WILL be fired at the end of the season. and if Philly wants Dalambert to succeed on that team after signing him to a fat contract, O'Brien MUST go. he focuses his offense and defense in the wrong ways. he willingly runs the team through Iverson....something Larry Brown refused to do. and O'Brien just doesnt know how to use the talent that he's got. just look at the stats of Skinner, Thomas, Williamson, and Webber after the trade.



.................Team..........Minutes..FG Mks/Atps....FG%....Blks....Rbds....Pts
Skinner........Philly ..........10.3.......0.9 - 2.4.......38.6.....0.3.....2.6.....2.0
.................Sacramento...29.8......4.1 - 7.3........56.0.....2.2.....9.4.....9.0
Thomas.......Philly............28.6......4.6 - 10.1......45.6.....0.1.....6.6....11.3
.................Sacramento...32.7......5.6 - 11.9......47.3.....0.5.....8.8....14.4
Williamson ...Philly............22.0......4.0 - 8.7.......46.5.....0.3.....3.7....10.8
.................Sacramento...18.4......2.9 - 6.4.......45.1.....0.1.....2.9.....8.3
Webber ......Sacramento...36.3......9.0 - 19.9......49.9.....0.7.....9.7....21.3
.................Philly............33.2......6.8 - 17.6......38.8.....0.7.....7.8....15.8

to me, that's a huge difference. when scrubs become very decent role players, and a star becomes mediocre. Kenny Thomas is playing better than Webber right now.

and thats a combination of two of the worst things on a team....a coach that doesnt fit the system to the players, and a teamate who's more concerned about his stats than anything else.

the crazy thing next year is that Philly has the potential to have 3 players accounting for the salary cap figure. Webber's $19,125,000... Iverson's $16,453,000... and Dalambert's potential $7,000,000+ = $42,578,000+.

Totally agree!
 

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asudevil83 said:
O'Brien WILL be fired at the end of the season. and if Philly wants Dalambert to succeed on that team after signing him to a fat contract, O'Brien MUST go.


Couldn't agree more. I used to be luke warm on Obrien as a head coach. This season had made me believe that he is the biggest overrated coach there is. The guy is just an idiot when it comes to the Sixers.
 

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