Jack Del Rio for HC?

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There is a rumor coming out of Del Rio's camp that if he isn't retained in some way by the Raiders he would go hard after the Cardinals job. He wants to stay on the West coast and there may be mutual interest.

No link, because I heard it from a friend who has friends in the sports world.

Besides the validity of the rumor what do you guys think of Del Rio?

I for one don't want a retread. I would like to bring in a new, young coach with his own hand picked staff.
 

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I been touching around this idea tentatively on the board and it doesnt seem like most Cards fans have respect for DeRio....I think he would be a good hire if we also bring in a decent o coordinator

Funny how the Raiders fell apart as ateam right round the same time the rumors were circulating that some of the oline allowed Carr to be continually hit because he didnt kneel.

of course...everyone around here says that kind of thing just cant happen.
 

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Would have to know who his OC, OLC and QBC would be. I think that if Carr didn't get injured right before the playoffs last year, JDR would still be the coach of the Raiders. He had that team on a roll and Carr was playing very well.
 

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Don't like it.

Of all the candidates, he'd be at the bottom imo.

He just doesn't have the head for it imo. I think he has all the bravado to lead men... but into an ambush.

It was clear the Raiders had to fire their DC this past offseason. Instead they fire their OC. Go from power blocking to zone blocking, even though their personnel fit power blocking. Absolutely predictable offense. If Carr was under center, they ran 99.99 percent of the time. My friend was screaming about it ALL season.

He also makes some bonehead head coach calls and meatheads out on the answer. Sort of like No Risk it - No Biscuit, but in a stupid way.

They have a defense with Kalil Mack getting double and triple teamed, and yet they keep getting burned. In this way he reminds me of Todd Graham. A supposedly defensive coach, whose defense sucks. 23rd total ypg, 26th passing ypg, 12 rushing ypg. All while they mostly play 10-8 because the rest are engaged with Kalil.

Just not a fan of his. Not saying he couldn't bring something to the table, but I just see him as someone the old Cardinals would hire.
 

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Would have to know who his OC, OLC and QBC would be. I think that if Carr didn't get injured right before the playoffs last year, JDR would still be the coach of the Raiders. He had that team on a roll and Carr was playing very well.
My thoughts as well. I dont care too much who the HC is as long as we have top coordinators. And I dont want the HC to calls plays again especially if he wears the OC hat as well. There has to be accountability and its much easier to replace a coordinator than it is the HC.
 

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Would have to know who his OC, OLC and QBC would be. I think that if Carr didn't get injured right before the playoffs last year, JDR would still be the coach of the Raiders. He had that team on a roll and Carr was playing very well.

Reading what some Raiders fans have to say, I'd stay away from JDR, at least for the HC position. Also:

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If you had a problem with BA being mean to the players, I don't see how this would fly here.
 

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Reading what some Raiders fans have to say, I'd stay away from JDR, at least for the HC position. Also:

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If you had a problem with BA being mean to the players, I don't see how this would fly here.


This is also what some seem to think might be a reason why Carr might be available, if not this year, then possibly in future year(s). The thought is, Gruden is going to do the same thing to him (or very similar, and maybe at least at a lower level, CONSTANTLY).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...regarding-jon-gruden-derek-carr-relationship/

Per a league source, there’s a real concern that Carr won’t be able to put up with Gruden’s style for very long. Gruden will ride him and needle him and yell at him and criticize him and ride him some more. Carr will have to learn how to deal with that, or Carr won’t last.

And that’s ultimately the concern: Carr, given the way he’s wired, may not make it with Gruden.

“Jon Gruden is not easy to deal with,” PFT Live co-host Chris Simms told me by phone on Thursday. “He’s in your face, he’s blunt, he’s extremely honest. At the same time, he’ll be extra hard on a quarterback if he knows the kid has talent. The quarterback has to remember it’s only because he wants him to be better and knows he can be better. . . . If he wasn’t yelling at you, that’s the bigger concern. It’s all for the greater good. It’s only going to make you a better quarterback.”

Simms explained that Gruden regards his offense as an expensive sports car that he has loaned to the quarterback.

“You’ve got the keys to his red Lamborghini,” Simms said. “When there’s a lane to go to 100 [miles per hour], you’d better go 100. But you’d better not scratch it, either.”

Simms said that, in the end, the haranguing is “all to make you better,” and that Carr will “learn more football under Gruden than he’s learned in his entire career.”

If Carr can handle it.

Here’s a prime example of the dynamic Carr will be dealing with. Remember his Superman routine after running for a first down late in the Cowboys game, when he lunged unnecessarily for the pylon and fumbled out of the end zone, essentially ending the game? Carr compared it to taking the last shot in a basketball game; Gruden will compare it to crashing the red Lamborghini, because there was still time to get out of bounds and take that last shot without trying to do too much.

And Gruden will let Carr hear it, if that happens again. (Gruden probably will let him hear about it during their first meeting.) And if Carr can’t take it, Carr won’t be long for the Raiders.

But I can also see that Gruden might be from the BA mind of tough love. Maybe he just goes further then Arians did, and without as much love on the back end. I guess time will tell.

But yeah, I also read that about Del Rio and it didn't sound good.
 

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This is also what some seem to think might be a reason why Carr might be available, if not this year, then possibly in future year(s). The thought is, Gruden is going to do the same thing to him (or very similar, and maybe at least at a lower level, CONSTANTLY).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...regarding-jon-gruden-derek-carr-relationship/



But I can also see that Gruden might be from the BA mind of tough love. Maybe he just goes further then Arians did, and without as much love on the back end. I guess time will tell.

But yeah, I also read that about Del Rio and it didn't sound good.

I read that earlier as well and saw what Simms had to say. Interesting to see if it was Carr, the coaching staff, or a combination of the two. Maybe D.Carr is soft as hell, but I can't imaine him being available after signing a contract recently.
 

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Simple. No. Why? How many head coaching positions in the NFL do you have to be fired from for people to realize you’re not the guy?

He has been fired as head coach of an nfl team twice if I’m not mistaken. What more evidence do you need?
 

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This is also what some seem to think might be a reason why Carr might be available, if not this year, then possibly in future year(s). The thought is, Gruden is going to do the same thing to him (or very similar, and maybe at least at a lower level, CONSTANTLY).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...regarding-jon-gruden-derek-carr-relationship/



But I can also see that Gruden might be from the BA mind of tough love. Maybe he just goes further then Arians did, and without as much love on the back end. I guess time will tell.

But yeah, I also read that about Del Rio and it didn't sound good.

I dunno...accountability in front of the team has to happen sometimes. It helps the entire team know that nobody is immune to being held accountable for poor play.

it happened to me when I played and I chewed on my players when I coached.

maybe this is what they mean when they say, "knows how to coach todays players"... maybe they are just all little candy asses and cant handle being forced to man up

I hate to think that about Carr, I'm a fan..... but there were similar issues when Singletary was a HC,...and with Jim Harbaugh as well...and Parcells it seams like its more of the "old school" type coaches I guess.... maybe todays NFL coaches need to provide quiet spaces and hugs?
 

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My buddy grew up playing little league with him. They still keep in contact. I blasted out a message to see if I could get some news...He might be a good fit, nobody here really knows.
 

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Last year Bill Belichick ripped Tom Brady in front of the team for sloppy ball protection. Sometimes a coach has to remind the whole team that everyone is being held to the highest standards.
 

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We could do worse for sure. I think he's a good coach. I agree with Mitch on this one though. I would want to know who the rest of his coaching staff is going to be. The only thing that I didn't like about BA was he wouldn't fire any of his coaches for under performing. I would want to know that the next head coach won't have that same problem.
 

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HELL NO!!! Del Rio is a blowhard. Horrible, horrible choice. There is not a creative thought in him. Please NO.
 

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Do we want a good coach or someone that can bring us a championship?? They could hire me & have a better chance at getting to or winning a SB. Del Rio is a know quantity, and that’s not a compliment.
 

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