JaMarcus Russell

[Skkorpion]

Skkorp -

What are your thoughts on hiring Norm Chow? I want the NC state/Phillip Rivers angle on this guy.

I don't know any more than all of you already know. I do know that he takes every type of QB and makes him an instant winner.

If he would run the offense himself and hire a good defensive guru to do the defense, I'd hire him today.

 

[red desert]

I don't know any more than all of you already know. I do know that he takes every type of QB and makes him an instant winner.

If he would run the offense himself and hire a good defensive guru to do the defense, I'd hire him today.

Defensive guru? You mean like Clancy Pendegrast?

 

[Redrage]

I don't know any more than all of you already know. I do know that he takes every type of QB and makes him an instant winner.

If he would run the offense himself and hire a good defensive guru to do the defense, I'd hire him today.

I think having someone on the staff with good organizational skills who already has a feel for the organization could help a guy like Norm (I'm referring to Clancy).

I think Chow would be detail oriented and hard working without being a micromanager. He could compartamentalize and focus on the Offense and let his defensive coaches run the D. Think Ditka and Ryan in Chicago.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Jamarcus Rusell

I know it's early in the game but he looks alot better than i have ever seen him throwing the ball. Of course, everybody looks good throwing against ND. He's definitely making a case for himself tonight. Quinn, as usual, is struggling when he plays against high-level competition. Howie Long just read my mind that Russell reminds me of Doug Williams. He's certainly changing my perception of him.

 

[red desert]

The early reviews -- he is the real deal.

 

[vinnymac]

i am watching the game also. he looking better than i expect him to. that whole lsu team is fighting pretty hard. the lsu defense is pretty fast. i like the way landry is playing

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I take back everything bad i said about Russell. That pass he just made to Early Doucet was very impressive. He barely flicked his wrist and threw the ball 55+ yards right on target. That deserves a WOW.

 

[red desert]

If he comes out, he WILL ABSOLUTELY go number one to Oakland. Al Davis is salivating at the thought.

 

[vinnymac]

i thought russell has already declared to come out. any way you are right. al davis would draft him in a heartbeat. quinn would go to detroit.

 

[Stout]

WOW, is he looking good. I think Bradshaw was high when he said that first throw had too much air under it. I thought it was perfect. If he didn't have air under it, the underneath defender gets his hands on the ball.

 

[Nasser22]

Forget what I said too...he is amazing. Trade Leinart for #1 pick now! Half-joking....

 

[JeffGollin]

I don't know any more than all of you already know. I do know that he takes every type of QB and makes him an instant winner.

If he would run the offense himself and hire a good defensive guru to do the defense, I'd hire him today.

I thought the following piece would provide us with a little insight on Chow the person. He comes across as a really bright guy with experience and sage-wisdom. We haven't had this in a HC in recent memory.

Excerpts From ESPN Piece by Wayne Dreh-

It was a handful of summers ago when Chow, then the offensive coordinator at BYU, was recording the voice overs for a video playbook each player was to study. Realizing the boredom his players would face watching the video, Chow inserted a message toward the end of the tape: any player still watching should call Coach Chow for a $100 reward.

And guess how many guys called me. Just guess: "One. And he was the center, the all-American boy who went on to medical school, married the cheerleader, all that stuff. Now what does that tell you?"

It told Chow to simplify. And that's just what he's done this summer at USC, installing his wide-open, pass-happy offense with a playbook about half as thick as the one used by former coach Paul Hackett. Instead of worrying about precise footwork and perfect mechanics, Chow is instructing junior quarterback Carson Palmer to merely relax and find the open man.

When defensive-minded Pete Carroll took the USC job in January, he made it his first priority to pry Chow away from N.C. State. He barely knew Chow, but Chow's track record and conversations with a handful of NFL quarterbacks spoke volumes.

In 18 seasons as offensive coordinator, Chow coached six of the top 12 career passing efficiency leaders and 11 quarterbacks who rank among the top 30 in NCAA history for single-season passing yardage. The Cougars scored 30 or more points in 106 of 181 games. His list of pupils include Robbie Bosco, Steve Young and 1990 Heisman Trophy winner Ty Detmer.

Chow coached Philip Rivers, who broke seven school passing records and was named ACC Freshman of the Year last season.

"I really didn't know much about Coach Chow until he got here," USC quarterback Carson Palmer said. "But when I saw his bio, I was like, 'Wow.' I couldn't wait to work with him. I had no idea."

For Carroll (who was looking to give autonomy to his offensive coordinator so Carroll could concentrate on defense) Chow was the perfect fit.
"He is arguably the best offensive coordinator in the history of college football, certainly in terms of championships and wins and people he has coached," Carroll said. "He is not only a great attraction for us in recruiting and a great asset as a coach, but he allows me to do what I want to do."
The path that has brought the 55-year-old coach to USC has been anything but normal. The grandson of a Chinese immigrant, Chow grew up in Honolulu and was an All-WAC guard at Utah. After one season in the Canadian Football League, a knee injury ended his playing career.

Chow then coached two years of high school football in Honolulu before joining the BYU staff in 1973 as a graduate assistant. At BYU, he worked on a master's degree in special education and later a doctorate in educational psychology.

While at BYU, Chow worked with not only head coach LaVell Edwards, but also a handful of talented assistants, including current Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid, Baltimore Ravens coach Brian Billick and Seattle Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren.

In 1982, it was Chow who gave an unknown Holmgren -- then the quarterbacks coach at San Francisco State -- his first big break.
"I didn't know Pete (Carroll) that well," Chow recalls. "And I told him I really wouldn't consider (USC) because I had a great job where I was. But he laid out the challenge, the tradition and how badly he wanted me to join him. It was on offer I couldn't refuse."

Which brought Chow to the home of Student Body Left and Student Body Right, - to educate a run-oriented team on becoming airborne. What could be simpler than that?

"To give them a thick playbook and tell them to study every page, over and over, we're fooling ourselves," Chow said. "And besides, I'm not that smart anyway. So I had no choice but to make things easier."

 

[40yearfan]

Many believes it depends on what he does in his upcoming bowl game against ND. If he bombs it will be a 50-50 that he leaves. But if he destroys ND like most believe even ND faithfull, some believe it is a lock that he leaves early.

IMO, I think it is a 90-10 that he leaves.

He looked invincible last night. Running, throwing, patience. If he doesn't go before Quinn, I'll be surprised.

 

[D-Dogg]

He's a top 4 pick. Maybe Joe Thomas lasts?

If not, it just pushes another good player down to us.

 

[phillycard]

This dude has one of the best cannons I have seen in a minute. Not since Michael Bishop have I seen such an effortlessly thrown ball. He throws it like he's throwing a tennis ball!

 

[40yearfan]

I thought the following piece would provide us with a little insight on Chow the person. He comes across as a really bright guy with experience and sage-wisdom. We haven't had this in a HC in recent memory.

Excerpts From ESPN Piece by Wayne Dreh-

It was a handful of summers ago when Chow, then the offensive coordinator at BYU, was recording the voice overs for a video playbook each player was to study. Realizing the boredom his players would face watching the video, Chow inserted a message toward the end of the tape: any player still watching should call Coach Chow for a $100 reward.

And guess how many guys called me. Just guess: "One. And he was the center, the all-American boy who went on to medical school, married the cheerleader, all that stuff. Now what does that tell you?"

It told Chow to simplify. And that's just what he's done this summer at USC, installing his wide-open, pass-happy offense with a playbook about half as thick as the one used by former coach Paul Hackett. Instead of worrying about precise footwork and perfect mechanics, Chow is instructing junior quarterback Carson Palmer to merely relax and find the open man.

When defensive-minded Pete Carroll took the USC job in January, he made it his first priority to pry Chow away from N.C. State. He barely knew Chow, but Chow's track record and conversations with a handful of NFL quarterbacks spoke volumes.

In 18 seasons as offensive coordinator, Chow coached six of the top 12 career passing efficiency leaders and 11 quarterbacks who rank among the top 30 in NCAA history for single-season passing yardage. The Cougars scored 30 or more points in 106 of 181 games. His list of pupils include Robbie Bosco, Steve Young and 1990 Heisman Trophy winner Ty Detmer.

Chow coached Philip Rivers, who broke seven school passing records and was named ACC Freshman of the Year last season.

"I really didn't know much about Coach Chow until he got here," USC quarterback Carson Palmer said. "But when I saw his bio, I was like, 'Wow.' I couldn't wait to work with him. I had no idea."

For Carroll (who was looking to give autonomy to his offensive coordinator so Carroll could concentrate on defense) Chow was the perfect fit.
"He is arguably the best offensive coordinator in the history of college football, certainly in terms of championships and wins and people he has coached," Carroll said. "He is not only a great attraction for us in recruiting and a great asset as a coach, but he allows me to do what I want to do."
The path that has brought the 55-year-old coach to USC has been anything but normal. The grandson of a Chinese immigrant, Chow grew up in Honolulu and was an All-WAC guard at Utah. After one season in the Canadian Football League, a knee injury ended his playing career.

Chow then coached two years of high school football in Honolulu before joining the BYU staff in 1973 as a graduate assistant. At BYU, he worked on a master's degree in special education and later a doctorate in educational psychology.

While at BYU, Chow worked with not only head coach LaVell Edwards, but also a handful of talented assistants, including current Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid, Baltimore Ravens coach Brian Billick and Seattle Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren.

In 1982, it was Chow who gave an unknown Holmgren -- then the quarterbacks coach at San Francisco State -- his first big break.
"I didn't know Pete (Carroll) that well," Chow recalls. "And I told him I really wouldn't consider (USC) because I had a great job where I was. But he laid out the challenge, the tradition and how badly he wanted me to join him. It was on offer I couldn't refuse."

Which brought Chow to the home of Student Body Left and Student Body Right, - to educate a run-oriented team on becoming airborne. What could be simpler than that?

"To give them a thick playbook and tell them to study every page, over and over, we're fooling ourselves," Chow said. "And besides, I'm not that smart anyway. So I had no choice but to make things easier."

Hmmm, I've seen a lot of people on this board who really don't like him, but I don't know why. Looks like a good candidate to me.

 

[Russ Smith]

I know it's early in the game but he looks alot better than i have ever seen him throwing the ball. Of course, everybody looks good throwing against ND. He's definitely making a case for himself tonight. Quinn, as usual, is struggling when he plays against high-level competition. Howie Long just read my mind that Russell reminds me of Doug Williams. He's certainly changing my perception of him.

The problem is as you say everyone looks like that against ND, as Skorp said they have no speed on defense(although I love the safety Zbiwhatever).

Russell has a cannon and he's huge but as was pointed out on Cold Pizza this morning in his big games this year like Auburn and Florida he was very ineffective.

Gotta love the comments they had on Notre Dame, 9 straight bowl losses the question is why do they have so much trouble in bowl games? Every person they asked had the exact same answer "well I think it's because they are consistenly overrated and thus playing in a bowl game they have no business playing in against better teams they have no chance of beating." Bayless basically said as long as they draw well they will continue to get picked based on that and they will continue to get their heads handed to them.

He also said Weis is not necessarily overrated but he's 0-5 against teams that finish in the top 10, 0-2 in bowl games, and so far his recruits aren't making anywhere near the impact they expected.

My big concern on Russell is his size, he's already heavy ala Leftwich, you have to wonder if he's going to have weight issues?

 

[Russ Smith]

If he comes out, he WILL ABSOLUTELY go number one to Oakland. Al Davis is salivating at the thought.

There's a story in the paper this morning that says one rumor has Oakland considering Marshawn Lynch #1 because he's from Oakland, they need a RB, and they think he'd be a great pick. The writer conceded it was highly unlikely because RB wasn't their biggest need and Lynch wasn't like a #1 overall pick, but he said he has already heard insiders that insist Lynch is on their short list.

This could be a very surprising pick the Raiders never take who people expect them to.

 

[D-Dogg]

This could be a very surprising pick the Raiders never take who people expect them to.

Raiders with the number one pick is pure entertainment.

 

[abomb]

Raiders with the number one pick is pure entertainment.

The fact that Art Shell is back for another year at the helm is comedic gold.

 

[D-Dogg]

The fact that Art Shell is back for another year at the helm is comedic gold.

He said he would be looking in the mirror. He said he would be looking in the mirror. He said he would be looking in the mirror. Okay.

 

[jw7]

It was a handful of summers ago when Chow, then the offensive coordinator at BYU, was recording the voice overs for a video playbook each player was to study. Realizing the boredom his players would face watching the video, Chow inserted a message toward the end of the tape: any player still watching should call Coach Chow for a $100 reward.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if that is true, isn't that a pretty blatant NCAA rules violation for a coach to give $ incentives to players?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Correct me if I am wrong, but if that is true, isn't that a pretty blatant NCAA rules violation for a coach to give $ incentives to players?

sounds like a joke to me.

 

[Jaccoob]

He has'nt declared at all...said he wanted to spend time with his family and think it out....no one done here knows what he is gonna do...

 

[Southpaw]

I have nothing bad to say about Russell, but remember that was The Notre Dame defense...the one that makes every opposing QB look like the next coming of Dan Marino, that he was throwing at.

I think there are 7 decent to good QBs in this draft and Russell is top 2.