Running the Bulls out of town
By Chad Ford
NBA Insider
Send an Email to Chad Ford Monday, January 19
Updated: January 20
9:38 AM ET
I'm giving up on the Chicago Bulls.
Remember when Jerry Krause resigned, claiming he left the once proud Bulls in "fine shape?"
Stupid me, I believed him.
There was a time I was convinced Jamal Crawford was going to be a star. I thought Eddy Curry would join Shaquille O'Neal and Yao Ming as one of the elite centers in the NBA. I felt Tyson Chandler would be Curry's perfect partner in crime. While Curry racked up 25 points a night, the long, athletic Chandler would grab 12 to 15 rebounds, block three shots and become a defensive force in the middle, meshing perfectly with Curry.
I was sure the Bulls had the juice to make a playoff run this year. When the team stumbled out of the gate, I thought the hiring of Scott Skiles and the trade that sent Jalen Rose and Donyell Marshall packing would fix things. Blue-collar guys like Antonio Davis and Jerome Williams would give the Bulls the grit (and rebounding) they sorely lacked.
I've moved on.
The 12-29 Bulls aren't going anywhere. They'll be lucky to repeat the 30-52 season they had last year. New GM John Paxson's preseason motto of "no excuses" is a farce. The only thing there is no excuse for is the team itself. It's awful.
Crawford and Curry on the Block?
That's why, according to several GMs who've talked to Paxson recently, he's seriously contemplating blowing the Bulls apart -- again. Over the weekend word began to leak (courtesy of the Chicago Sun-Times) that, for the 10th time this season, the Bulls were talking about trading Crawford.
Jamal Crawford
Shooting Guard
Chicago Bulls
Profile
2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
39 16.9 3.3 5.6 .390 .851
That's the beginning, not the end. Several other GMs told Insider on Monday that Curry and Chandler are also available. They won't come cheap, but for the first time ever, the untouchable tag has been lifted as Paxson searches for something, anything, that can rekindle the passion and pride of the Bulls.
If what these GMs claim is true (Bulls sources aren't talking), then the NBA trade market has been turned upside down a month before the Feb. 19 trade deadline. No one is claiming Curry or Chandler will be traded in the next month. But the fact they're available speaks volumes about the conclusions Paxson is coming to with this team.
Crawford has the makings of a star, but I don't see it happening in Chicago. He's been burned too many times and, in the process, burned too many bridges of his own. Crawford is an incredibly talented and insecure young man who's never had a definitive role in three-plus seasons in the league. On the right team, in the right offense, he could be a dominant combo guard. In Chicago he's little more than an enigma.
Curry has the body and the offensive skills that most NBA big men lack. But his lack of motivation both on and off the court has him looking more and more like Jerome James by the day. He doesn't rebound, doesn't play defense, doesn't even make the effort sometimes. His conditioning will always be an issue, as will his maturity. Playing in his hometown can't help. The distractions have always been overwhelming. A change of scenery could be the wake-up call that finally gets him focused on what he gets paid to do -- play basketball.
Eddy Curry
Center
Chicago Bulls
Profile
2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
34 12.8 6.1 0.8 .492 .709
Chandler? Who knows. He's 7-foot-2 and an amazing athlete. He's also a hard worker who's done everything the Bulls have asked him to do. However, he's a 21-year-old kid with a back problem. No one likes the sound of that.
The Baby Bulls know nothing but losing. They never learned what it takes to win. Throwing them in the deep end without a veteran supporting cast to show them the ropes was Krause's biggest mistake. Now it's coming back to bite the Bulls in the butt.
What does that leave? Rookie point guard Kirk Hinrich looks like a keeper. Skiles loves him, because he's everything Crawford and Curry aren't -- a tough, smart determined player who gives maximum effort every night.
After that the cupboard is pretty bare. Davis is past his prime and overpaid. He's the last piece of a championship team, not a cog in a rebuilding one. Williams is a bundle of energy, but his lack of offense and his offensive contract (four more years at $7 million per) make him a liability. Eddie Robinson's career ended the minute he signed his huge deal with the Bulls. Marcus Fizer has never fit in a Bulls uniform. Scottie Pippen is literally on his last leg.
In other words, if Paxson decides it's time to move Crawford and Curry, he essentially is committed to gutting the team for the fourth time since Michael Jordan left town. As awful as that sounds, does he have another choice?
Tyson Chandler
Power Forward
Chicago Bulls
Profile
2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
10 13.0 10.3 1.0 .494 .787
Crawford hits restricted free agency this summer, and all signs point to him looking for a new home. If he gets a big offer, the Bulls aren't going to match and will lose him for nothing.
Skiles sounds pretty convinced Curry isn't going to make dramatic improvements anytime soon. Read what the coach had to say about his center-of-the-future on Monday.
"So far, I think we know what we've got [in Curry]," Skiles told the Sun-Times. "We've got a very skilled big man who struggles with his conditioning and has been part of Bulls teams that have racked up huge amounts of losses.
"It is what it is. That's not just a knock at Eddy. As I've said before, that's everybody who's been part of that. I don't know that there's a big mystery about it all of a sudden, about what Eddy is or anybody else."
While Skiles claims he hasn't given up on Curry, from the sound of things, Curry's going to have to get an offseason lobotomy before he gets out of Skiles' doghouse.
"This is not an indictment about Eddy, as if to say this is the end of the road for him or this is what he is [for the rest of his career]," Skiles said. "It's just what he's done so far. He's got a lot of skill and has a lot to learn."
Chandler? The Bulls should be more patient and wait the back thing out. His value is severely diminished anyway, and his upside, because of his attitude, is still worthy of an extended look.
Let's Make a Deal
For Skiles to begin turning around the Bulls in a timely fashion, he'll need two things. One, a team willing to take some bad contracts along with Curry and Crawford. Two, a young proven star around whom to begin building the team.
That shouldn't be as hard as it seems. With so many teams in dire need of a legitimate center, plenty of GMs will be willing to take a chance on Curry. If there's a feeding frenzy for Rasheed Wallace right now, I can only imagine what teams will do for a chance to rehabilitate Curry. To a lesser extent, the same holds true for Crawford. Point guards with that size don't come along every day. While Crawford isn't the "pure" point some teams covet, he has more talent than half of the point guards starting in the league.
Who could the Bulls get in return?
For starters, write off the Knicks. Their interest in Crawford has been well publicized the past few days, but an offer of Shandon Anderson and Frank Williams for Crawford and Robinson is exactly the type of offer the Bulls shouldn't be entertaining.
Also write off teams that have been in the cellar the past few seasons. The Bulls need winners, not other talented phenoms (like Shareef Abdur-Rahim) who've never tasted the playoffs.
Let's start in my favorite spot, Seattle. Would the Sonics consider Ray Allen, Vladimir Radmanovic and Jerome James for Crawford, Curry, Fizer, Robinson and Jerome Williams? The move would give the Bulls a legit all-star who knows how to win, a young forward who can play the three and the four, and James, another underachieving center who, luckily, has only one year left on his deal.
The Bulls also would rid themselves of two bad contracts in return. Why would the Sonics do it? Their two biggest needs are at the point and in the middle. A Crawford-Ronald Murray-Luke Ridnour backcourt would be very explosive, and Curry would give them the low-post offense they've been searching for. The lack of defense would drive Nate McMillian crazy, but it isn't like Allen, Radmanovic or James are all-star defenders either.
The Mavericks would do probably anything to get their hands on Crawford and Curry. They've coveted them in the past and desperately need Curry's ability to score in the paint. We know Mark Cuban isn't shy about taking on bad contracts and likely would agree to take Robinson, Williams and Davis off the Bulls' hands to get Crawford and Curry.
The problem is, the Mavs won't be offering guys that would interest the Bulls. A trade of Crawford, Curry, Robinson, Williams and Davis for Michael Finley, Josh Howard and Antawn Jamison works under the cap. But would the Bulls be willing to swallow both of those long-term contracts in return? A team of Hinrich, Finley, Howard, Jamison and Chandler would be better than what the Bulls have now, but it's not a championship team. And such a move would kill Paxson's flexibility to make trades down the road.
Smaller deals are more feasible.
The Pacers continue to claim Al Harrington isn't available, but Harrington and Fred Jones for Crawford and Jerome Williams would make some sense for both teams, if the Pacers were prepared to sign Crawford to a long-term deal.
A straight up Crawford-for-Jason Richardson deal also makes some sense for both teams. The Warriors are trying to move Nick Van Exel, and Crawford would be a nice fit in his place, especially if rookie Mickael Pietrus is ready to begin playing big minutes in Golden State.
The Nets could use Kenyon Martin as bait to make a run at Curry. A Martin-for-Curry-and-Marcus Fizer trade works under the cap.
The possibilities (and that's all they are right now) are endless. The question is, does Paxson have the vision or the courage to make one of them happen?
By Chad Ford
NBA Insider
Send an Email to Chad Ford Monday, January 19
Updated: January 20
9:38 AM ET
I'm giving up on the Chicago Bulls.
Remember when Jerry Krause resigned, claiming he left the once proud Bulls in "fine shape?"
Stupid me, I believed him.
There was a time I was convinced Jamal Crawford was going to be a star. I thought Eddy Curry would join Shaquille O'Neal and Yao Ming as one of the elite centers in the NBA. I felt Tyson Chandler would be Curry's perfect partner in crime. While Curry racked up 25 points a night, the long, athletic Chandler would grab 12 to 15 rebounds, block three shots and become a defensive force in the middle, meshing perfectly with Curry.
I was sure the Bulls had the juice to make a playoff run this year. When the team stumbled out of the gate, I thought the hiring of Scott Skiles and the trade that sent Jalen Rose and Donyell Marshall packing would fix things. Blue-collar guys like Antonio Davis and Jerome Williams would give the Bulls the grit (and rebounding) they sorely lacked.
I've moved on.
The 12-29 Bulls aren't going anywhere. They'll be lucky to repeat the 30-52 season they had last year. New GM John Paxson's preseason motto of "no excuses" is a farce. The only thing there is no excuse for is the team itself. It's awful.
Crawford and Curry on the Block?
That's why, according to several GMs who've talked to Paxson recently, he's seriously contemplating blowing the Bulls apart -- again. Over the weekend word began to leak (courtesy of the Chicago Sun-Times) that, for the 10th time this season, the Bulls were talking about trading Crawford.
Jamal Crawford
Shooting Guard
Chicago Bulls
Profile
2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
39 16.9 3.3 5.6 .390 .851
That's the beginning, not the end. Several other GMs told Insider on Monday that Curry and Chandler are also available. They won't come cheap, but for the first time ever, the untouchable tag has been lifted as Paxson searches for something, anything, that can rekindle the passion and pride of the Bulls.
If what these GMs claim is true (Bulls sources aren't talking), then the NBA trade market has been turned upside down a month before the Feb. 19 trade deadline. No one is claiming Curry or Chandler will be traded in the next month. But the fact they're available speaks volumes about the conclusions Paxson is coming to with this team.
Crawford has the makings of a star, but I don't see it happening in Chicago. He's been burned too many times and, in the process, burned too many bridges of his own. Crawford is an incredibly talented and insecure young man who's never had a definitive role in three-plus seasons in the league. On the right team, in the right offense, he could be a dominant combo guard. In Chicago he's little more than an enigma.
Curry has the body and the offensive skills that most NBA big men lack. But his lack of motivation both on and off the court has him looking more and more like Jerome James by the day. He doesn't rebound, doesn't play defense, doesn't even make the effort sometimes. His conditioning will always be an issue, as will his maturity. Playing in his hometown can't help. The distractions have always been overwhelming. A change of scenery could be the wake-up call that finally gets him focused on what he gets paid to do -- play basketball.
Eddy Curry
Center
Chicago Bulls
Profile
2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
34 12.8 6.1 0.8 .492 .709
Chandler? Who knows. He's 7-foot-2 and an amazing athlete. He's also a hard worker who's done everything the Bulls have asked him to do. However, he's a 21-year-old kid with a back problem. No one likes the sound of that.
The Baby Bulls know nothing but losing. They never learned what it takes to win. Throwing them in the deep end without a veteran supporting cast to show them the ropes was Krause's biggest mistake. Now it's coming back to bite the Bulls in the butt.
What does that leave? Rookie point guard Kirk Hinrich looks like a keeper. Skiles loves him, because he's everything Crawford and Curry aren't -- a tough, smart determined player who gives maximum effort every night.
After that the cupboard is pretty bare. Davis is past his prime and overpaid. He's the last piece of a championship team, not a cog in a rebuilding one. Williams is a bundle of energy, but his lack of offense and his offensive contract (four more years at $7 million per) make him a liability. Eddie Robinson's career ended the minute he signed his huge deal with the Bulls. Marcus Fizer has never fit in a Bulls uniform. Scottie Pippen is literally on his last leg.
In other words, if Paxson decides it's time to move Crawford and Curry, he essentially is committed to gutting the team for the fourth time since Michael Jordan left town. As awful as that sounds, does he have another choice?
Tyson Chandler
Power Forward
Chicago Bulls
Profile
2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
10 13.0 10.3 1.0 .494 .787
Crawford hits restricted free agency this summer, and all signs point to him looking for a new home. If he gets a big offer, the Bulls aren't going to match and will lose him for nothing.
Skiles sounds pretty convinced Curry isn't going to make dramatic improvements anytime soon. Read what the coach had to say about his center-of-the-future on Monday.
"So far, I think we know what we've got [in Curry]," Skiles told the Sun-Times. "We've got a very skilled big man who struggles with his conditioning and has been part of Bulls teams that have racked up huge amounts of losses.
"It is what it is. That's not just a knock at Eddy. As I've said before, that's everybody who's been part of that. I don't know that there's a big mystery about it all of a sudden, about what Eddy is or anybody else."
While Skiles claims he hasn't given up on Curry, from the sound of things, Curry's going to have to get an offseason lobotomy before he gets out of Skiles' doghouse.
"This is not an indictment about Eddy, as if to say this is the end of the road for him or this is what he is [for the rest of his career]," Skiles said. "It's just what he's done so far. He's got a lot of skill and has a lot to learn."
Chandler? The Bulls should be more patient and wait the back thing out. His value is severely diminished anyway, and his upside, because of his attitude, is still worthy of an extended look.
Let's Make a Deal
For Skiles to begin turning around the Bulls in a timely fashion, he'll need two things. One, a team willing to take some bad contracts along with Curry and Crawford. Two, a young proven star around whom to begin building the team.
That shouldn't be as hard as it seems. With so many teams in dire need of a legitimate center, plenty of GMs will be willing to take a chance on Curry. If there's a feeding frenzy for Rasheed Wallace right now, I can only imagine what teams will do for a chance to rehabilitate Curry. To a lesser extent, the same holds true for Crawford. Point guards with that size don't come along every day. While Crawford isn't the "pure" point some teams covet, he has more talent than half of the point guards starting in the league.
Who could the Bulls get in return?
For starters, write off the Knicks. Their interest in Crawford has been well publicized the past few days, but an offer of Shandon Anderson and Frank Williams for Crawford and Robinson is exactly the type of offer the Bulls shouldn't be entertaining.
Also write off teams that have been in the cellar the past few seasons. The Bulls need winners, not other talented phenoms (like Shareef Abdur-Rahim) who've never tasted the playoffs.
Let's start in my favorite spot, Seattle. Would the Sonics consider Ray Allen, Vladimir Radmanovic and Jerome James for Crawford, Curry, Fizer, Robinson and Jerome Williams? The move would give the Bulls a legit all-star who knows how to win, a young forward who can play the three and the four, and James, another underachieving center who, luckily, has only one year left on his deal.
The Bulls also would rid themselves of two bad contracts in return. Why would the Sonics do it? Their two biggest needs are at the point and in the middle. A Crawford-Ronald Murray-Luke Ridnour backcourt would be very explosive, and Curry would give them the low-post offense they've been searching for. The lack of defense would drive Nate McMillian crazy, but it isn't like Allen, Radmanovic or James are all-star defenders either.
The Mavericks would do probably anything to get their hands on Crawford and Curry. They've coveted them in the past and desperately need Curry's ability to score in the paint. We know Mark Cuban isn't shy about taking on bad contracts and likely would agree to take Robinson, Williams and Davis off the Bulls' hands to get Crawford and Curry.
The problem is, the Mavs won't be offering guys that would interest the Bulls. A trade of Crawford, Curry, Robinson, Williams and Davis for Michael Finley, Josh Howard and Antawn Jamison works under the cap. But would the Bulls be willing to swallow both of those long-term contracts in return? A team of Hinrich, Finley, Howard, Jamison and Chandler would be better than what the Bulls have now, but it's not a championship team. And such a move would kill Paxson's flexibility to make trades down the road.
Smaller deals are more feasible.
The Pacers continue to claim Al Harrington isn't available, but Harrington and Fred Jones for Crawford and Jerome Williams would make some sense for both teams, if the Pacers were prepared to sign Crawford to a long-term deal.
A straight up Crawford-for-Jason Richardson deal also makes some sense for both teams. The Warriors are trying to move Nick Van Exel, and Crawford would be a nice fit in his place, especially if rookie Mickael Pietrus is ready to begin playing big minutes in Golden State.
The Nets could use Kenyon Martin as bait to make a run at Curry. A Martin-for-Curry-and-Marcus Fizer trade works under the cap.
The possibilities (and that's all they are right now) are endless. The question is, does Paxson have the vision or the courage to make one of them happen?
