Jazz @ Suns 4-3-16

[Mainstreet]

Game in progress with 6:39 left in the second quarter,

 

[Mainstreet]

Brooklyn loses again today. I guess the Suns have to lose out if they want that third slot.

 

[Mainstreet]

Tom Chambers makes an interesting comment at halftime. Three of the Suns starters (Tucker, Len and Price) have not made a FG. Ouch, under any circumstances.

 

[Mainstreet]

Myles Turner (Pacers) and Trey Lyles (Jazz) were drafted right before Devin Booker in the 2015 NBA draft. I wonder if the Suns would have chosen one of these two PFs if they would have been been on the table. Devin Booker (obviously) was a great selection but I still wonder.

 

[GatorAZ]

Wizards lose and now have the 12th worst record.

 

[Mainstreet]

Wizards lose and now have the 12th worst record.

The Suns loss to the Wizards could be huge.

The Rockets beat OKC so they are really trying to get into the playoffs. I bet they are rooting for the Suns.

 

[Mainstreet]

If the Jazz had a better than average PG they would be very hard to beat.

 

[Mainstreet]

Final: Jazz 101 Suns 86

 

[Mainstreet]

The Nets shut down Brook Lopez and Thaddeus Young for the season. If the Nets are not going to play straight up... give some effort then the Suns should not be penalized. I guess the Suns need to shut it down. The Commisioner should get involved but nothing is likely to happen. I don't like this one bit.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The Nets shut down Brook Lopez and Thaddeus Young for the season. If the Nets are not going to play straight up... give some effort then the Suns should not be penalized. I guess the Suns need to shut it down. The Commisioner should get involved but nothing is likely to happen. I don't like this one bit.

It probably looks a little suspicious but it's really the right move for Brooklyn and teams have done this for years. Why use up older veterans for no reason and why not use the last handful of games to try out possible bench players for their future? We have the same option, we should be shutting Chandler and Tucker down. Although it might be a slap in the face for us to sit Teletovic or Leuer as they are free agents. But if so, we should at least be limiting their minutes.

 

[leclerc]

Shut down Chandler and Tucker to play Alan and... Who do we have at SF besides Mirza?

 

[elindholm]

Shut down Chandler and Tucker to play Alan and... Who do we have at SF besides Mirza?

What's the point of shutting down Tucker? He doesn't help the team win games, so they might as well have him on the floor.

 

[GatorAZ]

What's the point of shutting down Tucker? He doesn't help the team win games, so they might as well have him on the floor.

I know PJ has the reputation of a terrible player but shutting him down would help us lose more IMO.

 

[AzStevenCal]

What's the point of shutting down Tucker? He doesn't help the team win games, so they might as well have him on the floor.

I know PJ has the reputation of a terrible player but shutting him down would help us lose more IMO.

I'd shut Tucker down and put Goodwin or a D Leaguer in his place. Tucker is horrible, it's not just a reputation, but he's played better the past 6 weeks or so and is a plus player every 5th game (? - wild guess on the number). As long as we replace his minutes with a D Leaguer or Goodwin it should help us slightly in the cause of losing. A good D League player might actually be Tucker's equal or more but hopefully the lack of familiarity with teammates will result in less cohesion and should more than offset anything gained.

 

[Mainstreet]

It probably looks a little suspicious but it's really the right move for Brooklyn and teams have done this for years. Why use up older veterans for no reason and why not use the last handful of games to try out possible bench players for their future? We have the same option, we should be shutting Chandler and Tucker down. Although it might be a slap in the face for us to sit Teletovic or Leuer as they are free agents. But if so, we should at least be limiting their minutes.

It may be good for the Nets but I don't think it's good for the NBA. It just seems wrong to sit healthy players when other teams are jockeying for position whether it be the playoffs or the lottery. Usually teams like the Spurs and GS are more discrete when they rest players during the season. What bothers me the most is Suns may have to play the same game if they want the third slot. I'm not sure they will or least not as blatantly. The Suns certainly need to play John Jenkins and Alan Williams more.


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[AzStevenCal]

It may be good for the Nets but I don't think it's good for the NBA. It just seems wrong to sit healthy players when other teams are jockeying for position whether it be the playoffs or the lottery. Usually teams like the Spurs and GS are more discrete when they rest players during the season. What bothers me the most is Suns may have to play the same game if they want the third slot. I'm not sure they will or least not as blatantly. The Suns certainly need to play John Jenkins and Alan Williams more.


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As I mentioned though, it's been happening for as long as I can remember. The league has had an issue when it's happened during the season but when you're down to the last half dozen games or so, it hardly even warrants a mention by the media. It's become a matter of discussion for us but solely because it has the potential to cost us in the draft.

And IMO it's very good for the league, teams should have the right to do what's in their own best interests especially this late in the season. Brooklyn can ill afford to lose Lopez or even Young to an injury while playing in absolutely meaningless games.

 

[Mainstreet]

As I mentioned though, it's been happening for as long as I can remember. The league has had an issue when it's happened during the season but when you're down to the last half dozen games or so, it hardly even warrants a mention by the media. It's become a matter of discussion for us but solely because it has the potential to cost us in the draft.

And IMO it's very good for the league, teams should have the right to do what's in their own best interests especially this late in the season. Brooklyn can ill afford to lose Lopez or even Young to an injury while playing in absolutely meaningless games.

There is no doubt it has been happening for a long time in the NBA. However, I think tanking (for lack of a better word) gets abused more in the NBA than say the NFL. I really can't comment about other sports.

The Suns have never had the first pick in the draft so I guess the lottery system grates on me some. However, the system will remain until the owners decide to change it. I'm not sure the pursuit of losing is good for the NBA but it works for the majority. Anyway, I doubt if the casual fan pays much attention.

What might be fun is the worst four teams (or whatever) have a playoff and the team that wins gets the #1 pick and so on. At least this would be based on winning.

 

[AzStevenCal]

There is no doubt it has been happening for a long time in the NBA. However, I think tanking (for lack of a better word) gets abused more in the NBA than say the NFL. I really can't comment about other sports.

The Suns have never had the first pick in the draft so I guess the lottery system grates on me some. However, the system will remain until the owners decide to change it. I'm not sure the pursuit of losing is good for the NBA but it works for the majority. Anyway, I doubt if the casual fan pays much attention.

What might be fun is the worst four teams (or whatever) have a playoff and the team that wins gets the #1 pick and so on. At least this would be based on winning.

A losers bracket playoff sounds like fun but unfortunately the players union would never agree. The one thing I'd point out about Brooklyn though is that they aren't actually tanking. It might strike us as the same but I think they'd be thrilled if they won every remaining game. They just don't want to risk what few assets they have.

 

[Mainstreet]

A losers bracket playoff sounds like fun but unfortunately the players union would never agree. The one thing I'd point out about Brooklyn though is that they aren't actually tanking. It might strike us as the same but I think they'd be thrilled if they won every remaining game. They just don't want to risk what few assets they have.

I'm beginning to like the sound of a losers playoff with the worst four teams or whatever the number. Maybe the players union could be convinced with additional revenue. Actually it could be exciting.

I have no empathy for the Nets. I view the Nets doing the same as tanking but without the motivation. Actually it may be worse than tanking because they are all but quitting (in terms of trying to get wins) by not playing Lopez and Young, Other teams, at least the Suns, need them to play out the season. There is always the opposite position to take in the matter so we can agree to disagree.

I"m still wanting that loser's playoff.