Johnson and LaRoche on Waivers...

[binkar]

Adam LaRoche and Kelly Johnson were placed on waivers on Friday. It will be interesting to see if they clear, and what kind of return they could bring.

 

[hafey]

I believe Johnson still has an arbitration year. Even with the raise he has earned this year, I'd imagine someone would have to overpay for him. Especially without an obvious replacement.

 

[overseascardfan]

I believe Johnson still has an arbitration year. Even with the raise he has earned this year, I'd imagine someone would have to overpay for him. Especially without an obvious replacement.

I don't think any team would offer much for either, the trade deadline theme was getting players on the cheap. I say we just keep these guys, I mean who is in line for an extension or raise now? No one. We got rid of high salary guys in Jackson & Haren, Webb is gone. Stephen Drew comes to mind but we should keep Johnson, there is not a 2B ready to replace him, and don't somebody mention Abreu. LaRoche and Johnson have been the main sources of offense steadily throughout the year, hang on to them.

 

[sundevil04]

Id be all for LaRoche being traded assuming we gegt something decent in return, considering he's a FA at the end of the season and with Brandon Allen likely ready to step in at 1b next season theres no sense in keeping him for a large contract this offseason. Johnson I'd hate to see go unless teh return is very significant since we dont have anyone waiting to step in at 1b

 

[Gaddabout]

So much for being comfortable with the payroll post-Haren. This front office is dishonest.

 

[azsportsfan01]

So much for being comfortable with the payroll post-Haren. This front office is dishonest.

I don't get what you are going at. Nearly every player gets put on waivers to guage what interest could be. LaRoche is the only one of the two that has a chance to be traded. If we have a chance to get something for him them we should instead of buying out his contract at the end of the season and getting nothing in return. Allen has been playing good ball in the minors and should be up in the majors within a week to two. This has nothing to do with saving money but continuing to get better.

 

[hafey]

I don't get what you are going at. Nearly every player gets put on waivers to guage what interest could be. LaRoche is the only one of the two that has a chance to be traded. If we have a chance to get something for him them we should instead of buying out his contract at the end of the season and getting nothing in return. Allen has been playing good ball in the minors and should be up in the majors within a week to two. This has nothing to do with saving money but continuing to get better.

Agreed.

 

[binkar]

What kind of prospect could we expect for LaRoche?

 

[azsportsfan01]

We wouldn't get a great prospect for LaRoche. Probably a mid-level pitching prospect. But in the end it is better than nothing.

 

[Gaddabout]

I don't get what you are going at. Nearly every player gets put on waivers to guage what interest could be. LaRoche is the only one of the two that has a chance to be traded. If we have a chance to get something for him them we should instead of buying out his contract at the end of the season and getting nothing in return. Allen has been playing good ball in the minors and should be up in the majors within a week to two. This has nothing to do with saving money but continuing to get better.

Hall said there wouldn't be any more changes, that they were comfortable with the payroll and they liked who they had left. I assumed that to mean the might actually keep the everyday roster in place for the rest of the year.

I understand the waiver process, but I think if you're not looking to shed more salary for prospects, you don't put your most consistent hitter on the wire.

 

[binkar]

Hall said there wouldn't be any more changes, that they were comfortable with the payroll and they liked who they had left. I assumed that to mean the might actually keep the everyday roster in place for the rest of the year.

I understand the waiver process, but I think if you're not looking to shed more salary for prospects, you don't put your most consistent hitter on the wire.

When did you hear this? Just last week Hall was on Doug and Wolf and definitely didn't shoot down the idea of trading LaRoche.

 

[Gaddabout]

When did you hear this? Just last week Hall was on Doug and Wolf and definitely didn't shoot down the idea of trading LaRoche.

The Monday after the trade of Haren.

 

[binkar]

Ohhhh. Never mind. I had forgot about you were alluding to the dishonesty of the front office. Dishonest or not, I am more comfortable with this franchise then I was a month ago.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Hall said there wouldn't be any more changes, that they were comfortable with the payroll and they liked who they had left. I assumed that to mean the might actually keep the everyday roster in place for the rest of the year.

I understand the waiver process, but I think if you're not looking to shed more salary for prospects, you don't put your most consistent hitter on the wire.

This isn't about salary. LaRoche's salary for the rest of the year is negligible. This year is over for the team, it is now time to look forward to next season. There has been talk of Allen playing left field, which if he is passable I would be all for but more likely than not LaRoche is gone after this year. Say you are able to get a guy who can help the team next year while opening a space for a guy who will be an integral part of the team for next season, wouldn't you do it?

 

[Gaddabout]

Ohhhh. Never mind. I had forgot about you were alluding to the dishonesty of the front office. Dishonest or not, I am more comfortable with this franchise then I was a month ago.

I'm not upset with the changes. I was in favor of blowing this thing up last year. I can't believe Chris Young is still on the roster.

But one of the things I think the FO needs to do is explain what the plan is. They have a major credibility issue with the fans and they shouldn't suggest the big moves are over when they're seriously shopping key parts of the team.

I don't get the fans who don't understand why Haren was traded. I don't get the fans who think the D-Backs should have held on to all of these players like all they lacked was one or two key free agents. Baseball never works that way, and you need to be mindful to prune the tree when the fruit is rotten. At the same time, when you're about to set a team record for low attendance in a season, you can't just assume fans have faith in what you're doing. You have faith, but I'm guessing the average Joe sees this as another attempt to shed salary at the expense of their entertainment.

 

[binkar]

I'm not upset with the changes. I was in favor of blowing this thing up last year. I can't believe Chris Young is still on the roster.

But one of the things I think the FO needs to do is explain what the plan is. They have a major credibility issue with the fans and they shouldn't suggest the big moves are over when they're seriously shopping key parts of the team.

I don't get the fans who don't understand why Haren was traded. I don't get the fans who think the D-Backs should have held on to all of these players like all they lacked was one or two key free agents. Baseball never works that way, and you need to be mindful to prune the tree when the fruit is rotten. At the same time, when you're about to set a team record for low attendance in a season, you can't just assume fans have faith in what you're doing. You have faith, but I'm guessing the average Joe sees this as another attempt to shed salary at the expense of their entertainment.

Understandable viewpoint. In reality though, if this team starts winning again, people will come back. Until then, they will stay away.

 

[azsportsfan01]

The front office has said what their plan it. They wanted to restock the farm with arms. It is quite obvious from the deals they have made bringing back Skaggs, Corbin, Hudson, and Holmberg. The D-Backs have a bunch of good offensive prospects thanks to last years draft. The weakest point has been arms but with the deals we have made it is coming closer to even. If we don't sign Loux which it looks like we won't then those two picks next season could complete what should be a very good farm system that should produce solid major leaguers in 2-3 years.