Josh Jackson at PG?

[AzStevenCal]

We have guys who can put points on the board, we just don't have anyone who can facilitate the offense. Russell isn't that guy. And Booker plays better as a 2 guard.

McConnell is a very good defender. Hard-nosed, not afraid to get in other players' faces. Also much more mature than Russell. Trust me, we don't need malcontents in our locker room.

I really don't think you can have too many guys that can put points on the board in today's NBA. I think you need at least 4 out there all the time and 5 is even better. So, long term, I would want a PG that is a threat to shoot or drive at any time. But yeah, I don't think Russell is that guy either. So, I'd prefer TJ while we wait to find or develop a true threat at the 1. TJ will at least make the rest of the guys better and he's been known to hit the big shot every now and then.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I would be good with McConnell, too. It really shouldn't take much to pry him from Philly.

They need to get enough to lose him for this season, a season in which they believe they can challenge for the Finals. They know they’ll lose him next year so they can’t “charge” a lot for him, but they also won’t just give him away because of his value for this year when they’re contending.

 

[hcsilla]

God save us from D'Angelo Russell.

He is just a terrible basketball player. I wouldn't even trade a top55 protected 2nd rounder for him.

 

[SirStefan32]

Yeah, no Russell. Hell no. Roll with what we have if he is the only option.

 

[JCSunsfan]

McConnel is a backup, we need a starter.

If we are going to shell out a first round pick I want an established starter or with such talents.

I might do Bender and Milwaukee pick for D'Angelo Russell. Not a fan of him but he at least has a chance to be good if he gets the sloppiness out of his game.

there is no way in the world that Bender and the Milwaukee pick would net DAR.

 

[Hoop Head]

I doubt McConnell would be mentioned, especially for a 1st round pick, if he wasn't an Arizona alumni. I like him but that's way too high.

The Sixers will have Fultz back this year and if he's healthy with a fixed shot then they won't need McConnell nearly as much.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I doubt McConnell would be mentioned, especially for a 1st round pick, if he wasn't an Arizona alumni. I like him but that's way too high.

The Sixers will have Fultz back this year and if he's healthy with a fixed shot then they won't need McConnell nearly as much.

It's a little too high, I disagree on the "way too high". I certainly wouldn't give up a lottery pick (or probable lottery pick) for him but the Milwaukee pick isn't likely to be worth all that much. I'd like to keep it but I'd like to see a reasonably functional point guard in a Suns uniform even more.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I doubt McConnell would be mentioned, especially for a 1st round pick, if he wasn't an Arizona alumni. I like him but that's way too high.

The Sixers will have Fultz back this year and if he's healthy with a fixed shot then they won't need McConnell nearly as much.

Mcconnell is a player that we KNOW can play in this league. He is a rotation player who could be a starter depending on who is around him. That is worth a late first round pick. There is also a good chance of resigning him.

 

[elindholm]

I doubt McConnell would be mentioned, especially for a 1st round pick, if he wasn't an Arizona alumni. I like him but that's way too high.

The Sixers will have Fultz back this year and if he's healthy with a fixed shot then they won't need McConnell nearly as much.

Wow, I totally forgot that Fultz even existed. What a weird situation.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah, no Russell. Hell no. Roll with what we have if he is the only option.

Yeah, I was about to post almost verbatim, "Not just a no, but a hell no for Russell."

He doesn't really do anything well, he turns the ball over a lot without getting much in the way of assists and he is a bad outside shooter and another guy who hardly tries on defense.

 

[Hoop Head]

@Finito Can you please edit this threads title? I know others have asked and I get the joke at the time but I still get caught off guard by this when I'm looking at the Suns forum. Even adding something like (JJ) in parentheses before or after the text would be much appreciated. That is enough to let people know what thread it is if they've posted or read it plus it tells people like me, Ouchie, Chap, and Stef from thinking something happened. I mention them because all 3 posted asking for a name change already.

If you don't know how maybe @Chris_Sanders can do it?

Scroll up and you'll see those 3 that I mentioned ask for a name change. I didn't want to quote them because it will tag them and there is no reason to do that in a thread like this until the title is changed.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

That better?

 

[1tinsoldier]

i'm OK with Josh being the PG off the bench.
hell, the bench play is going to be a twisted experiment regardless of what we do!

 

[Raze]

I seriously don't understand why this isn't being tested. Our current "PGs" aren't starting caliber PGs anyway. Add to the fact that JJ is left position-less with Warren/Ariza/Bridges/Anderson crowding the F spots.

And for crying out loud, someone please tell me we aren't starting Okobo-Booker-Warren-Anderson-Ayton (per Espns depth chart). We will give up 150 a night. That is an absolutely dreadful Defensive lineup.

The starters should be:

PG/SG Josh Jackson
PG/SG Devin Booker
SF TJ Warren
PF Trevor Ariza
C DeAndre Ayton

JJ and Book should split duties bringing the ball up. NO, I'm not saying this is ideal. JJ is a 3. But when your 3 PGs are two 2nd round rookies and a journeyman you have to try something else. You should ALWAYS put your best 5 on the floor to start.

 

[1tinsoldier]

well, you could make the case that the Suns are better off with JJ on the floor than Canaan, even if JJ is at the point. and especially if one of the season's goals is to develop your #4 pick in his 2nd year.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

I seriously don't understand why this isn't being tested. Our current "PGs" aren't starting caliber PGs anyway. Add to the fact that JJ is left position-less with Warren/Ariza/Bridges/Anderson crowding the F spots.

And for crying out loud, someone please tell me we aren't starting Okobo-Booker-Warren-Anderson-Ayton (per Espns depth chart). We will give up 150 a night. That is an absolutely dreadful Defensive lineup.

The starters should be:

PG/SG Josh Jackson
PG/SG Devin Booker
SF TJ Warren
PF Trevor Ariza
C DeAndre Ayton

JJ and Book should split duties bringing the ball up. NO, I'm not saying this is ideal. JJ is a 3. But when your 3 PGs are two 2nd round rookies and a journeyman you have to try something else. You should ALWAYS put your best 5 on the floor to start.

I think the ESPN depth chart is off. I'd be surprised if Okobo is starting, and I'd also be surprised if Warren is starting over Jackson AND Ariza.

I really like your starters. I agree it's not ideal, but having your best players on the floor makes sense. This would also pave the way to more playing time for Bridges off the bench.

 

[Hoop Head]

I think the ESPN depth chart is off. I'd be surprised if Okobo is starting, and I'd also be surprised if Warren is starting over Jackson AND Ariza.

I really like your starters. I agree it's not ideal, but having your best players on the floor makes sense. This would also pave the way to more playing time for Bridges off the bench.

ESPN's depth chart is awful. They had Paul and Harden at PG for the Rockets last year. It was Harden and then Paul, actually. They had PG-13 as the Thunder's SG when they acquired him with Melo as SF, Patrick Patterson at PF, and Adams at C. Look at some other teams, the Rockets have Chriss as their #1 PF but he's starting ahead of Tucker and Gordon. Melo is their listed SF. The Lakers have Rondo behind Paul despite Walton saying Rondo would start. Lots of errors, just click around. Don't put much stock in anything they put together like that.

I prefer Yahoo's anyways, check that one. Click here, it takes you to the NBA team section. Click "Roster" for any team you want to see and it'll show you the depth chart.Here is Houston's, it has Chriss as their 3rd string PF behind Tucker and Melo.

 

[Folster]

I'm really concerned with Jackson and his in efficiency. A couple weeks ago I said that his ceiling is a cross between Josh Howard and Shawn Marion.

But after seeing a comparison of his current play being on par with prime Josh Childress, I almost threw up.

I know everyone is bullish on him, but I'm starting to have serious doubts.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm really concerned with Jackson and his in efficiency. A couple weeks ago I said that his ceiling is a cross between Josh Howard and Shawn Marion.

But after seeing a comparison of his current play being on par with prime Josh Childress, I almost threw up.

I know everyone is bullish on him, but I'm starting to have serious doubts.

I am bullish on him but I'm not without doubts of my own. His stats are scary bad but I've seen him do some phenomenal things so I'll hold on to the hope a while longer.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm really concerned with Jackson and his in efficiency. A couple weeks ago I said that his ceiling is a cross between Josh Howard and Shawn Marion.

But after seeing a comparison of his current play being on par with prime Josh Childress, I almost threw up.

I know everyone is bullish on him, but I'm starting to have serious doubts.

You are not the only one who has doubts but all we can do is hope he matures into a nice player.

In my moments of doubt I think he could play power forward for the Suns which would help minimize his deficiencies in shooting.

 

[elindholm]

But after seeing a comparison of his current play being on par with prime Josh Childress, I almost threw up.

Childress was taken #6 in a decent draft (2004), ahead of Iguodala and Al Jefferson. It happens.

 

[1tinsoldier]

serious doubts be damned (though warranted). most agree that doubts have turned to bust on our prior 2 lottery picks. we need to make last year's work out.

he's lucky. if we were a playoff team he'd see limited time off the bench. he'd really benefit from having a smart leader on the floor to learn from. unlike Chriss, i think JJ has enough bb iq to assimilate the game. the question is whether he has or can acquire the skills to apply it

i agree that having the ball in his hands a lot at the point is definitely not his best option
but the other options on this team may be worse

 

[Finito]

@Finito Can you please edit this threads title? I know others have asked and I get the joke at the time but I still get caught off guard by this when I'm looking at the Suns forum. Even adding something like (JJ) in parentheses before or after the text would be much appreciated. That is enough to let people know what thread it is if they've posted or read it plus it tells people like me, Ouchie, Chap, and Stef from thinking something happened. I mention them because all 3 posted asking for a name change already.

If you don't know how maybe @Chris_Sanders can do it?

Scroll up and you'll see those 3 that I mentioned ask for a name change. I didn't want to quote them because it will tag them and there is no reason to do that in a thread like this until the title is changed.

Lol I did it to troll.

 

[Superbone]

Lol I did it to troll.

#4. No trolling. If you are visiting this site from another board then you will act like a guest. If not you will be removed. This includes taunting with images and what not. If you wish to act as such, there is a place for that on the board called the Smack Shack.

 

[Finito]

#4. No trolling. If you are visiting this site from another board then you will act like a guest. If not you will be removed. This includes taunting with images and what not. If you wish to act as such, there is a place for that on the board called the Smack Shack.

Dude I've been on this board since 2005 if you can't take a harmless joke then that speaks to you more than me.

Are you serious right now.