Jurecki pretty confident Mathieu will be gone if number not adjusted

[DVontel]

Tyrann Mathieu will be a Cardinal for the 2018 season.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Tyrann Mathieu will be a Cardinal for the 2018 season.

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

 

[Mitch]

Tyrann Mathieu will be a Cardinal for the 2018 season.

Because?

 

[juza76]

Because?

Has something to do with jurecky being always wrong?

 

[DVontel]

Because?

What Juza said.

 

[Cards Czar]

Here are his numbers:
Tyrann Mathieu signed a 5 year, $62,500,000 contract with the Arizona Cardinals, including a $15,500,000 signing bonus, $40,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $12,500,000. In 2018, Mathieu will earn a base salary of $5,750,000, a roster bonus of $5,000,000 and a workout bonus of $250,000, while carrying a cap hit of $14,100,000 and a dead cap value of $9,300,000

$21.25M initially guaranteed (signing bonus + 2016 salary + 2017 salary)
$5.75M 2018 salary + $8M of 2019 salary fully guarantees on 3/14/2018
2018 Roster Bonus: $5M (paid 3/16/2018)
Defensive Player of the year: $250,000 (2017-21)
2017-21 Workout Bonus: $250,000


FS/CB -Tyrann Mathieu – Has a 14.1 Million cap hit for 2018

If he is a Pre 6/1 Release here are the cap hits.

2018 Dead Cap: $9,300,000

2018 Cap Savings: $4,800,000

POST – 6/1 Release:

2018 Dead Cap: $3,100,000

2019 Dead Cap: $6,200,000

2018 Cap Savings: $11,000,000

 

[WisconsinCard]

POST – 6/1 Release:

2018 Dead Cap: $3,100,000

2019 Dead Cap: $6,200,000

2018 Cap Savings: $11,000,000

But would be paid the 5 mil in march.

 

[BillsCarnage]

FS/CB -Tyrann Mathieu – Has a 14.1 Million cap hit for 2018

If he is a Pre 6/1 Release here are the cap hits.

2018 Dead Cap: $9,300,000

2018 Cap Savings: $4,800,000

POST – 6/1 Release:

2018 Dead Cap: $3,100,000

2019 Dead Cap: $6,200,000

2018 Cap Savings: $11,000,000

The one thing missing from the pre 6/1 cut is that he'll save $14mill in 2019 being off the books. Unless the Cards are looking to land an expensive FA - which I doubt - I don't see why they'd cut him post 6/1. Take the 2018 hit and free up as much space for 2019.

 

[Russ Smith]

Just finished up DMing him regarding Mathieu at this current price. Seems pretty sure of himself that unless that number drops, Mathieu will be gone.

I love TM but honestly if he won't take a cut he SHOULD go. He's vastly overpaid right now, he's not the same player and there's no guarantee he will be again.

 

[WisconsinCard]

The one thing missing from the pre 6/1 cut is that he'll save $14mill in 2019 being off the books. Unless the Cards are looking to land an expensive FA - which I doubt - I don't see why they'd cut him post 6/1. Take the 2018 hit and free up as much space for 2019.

It's all about the dead money cap hit the cards would have to absorb this year 9.3 million. If he is a post 6/1 you can push about 6 mil of it to the next year. So the truth of it is you could save the 14 mil but only spend about 5 to replace him, or put towards another position.

 

[BillsCarnage]

It's all about the dead money cap hit the cards would have to absorb this year 9.3 million. If he is a post 6/1 you can push about 6 mil of it to the next year. So the truth of it is you could save the 14 mil but only spend about 5 to replace him, or put towards another position.

Right, but I was saying he's most likely to be a pre 6/1 cut. If he's pre 6/1, the money (guaranteed, bonus, prorated) is accelerated to all count towards 2018. Since he'd be off the books, there'd be $14mill added to 2019's cap space since the contract would be terminated. He has no guaranteed money left on his contract.

Cut him pre or post 6/1 with this calculator - https://overthecap.com/calculator/arizona-cardinals

 

[oaken1]

But would be paid the 5 mil in march.

probably not. Teams are allowed to release a guy early and designate him as a post june 1st release.

 

[kerouac9]

probably not. Teams are allowed to release a guy early and designate him as a post june 1st release.

Yeah, but they have to carry his contract until June 1 like he’s still on the roster. The purpose of these roster bonuses is to force teams to make an early decision. The Cards wait, Mathieu gets the bonus and guaranteed seasons.

 

[oaken1]

Yeah, but they have to carry his contract until June 1 like he’s still on the roster. The purpose of these roster bonuses is to force teams to make an early decision. The Cards wait, Mathieu gets the bonus and guaranteed seasons.

aahh..okay... that makes sense.... I aint a fan of spreading it out anyway...if they are gonna do it we should just take the hit and be done with it already

 

[Stout]

I never put too much weight into what Jurecki writes/claims.

Neither do I. Here he's just stating the obvious.

 

[WildBB]

The numbers $$ are extraordinary. They don't play the whole year either. I understand that they deserve their fair share. But most teams have maybe 7-8 srarters making those $$, and the other 46 roster players fighting for the rest.

Be careful what you wish for when signing FA's. You have to add one now and then. But if they keep or extend Badger that's almost like a signing.

C. Jones was the big signing last year. So far so good there. But he's going to need to stay on the field and produce.

D. Johnson is also next up to extend.

 

[Buckybird]

Tyrann Mathieu will be a Cardinal for the 2018 season.

Not!

 

[WildBB]

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018/02/steelers-create-nearly-15mm-in-cap-space?fv-home=true&post

Steelers restructuring deals.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

A team wanting a DB with almost zero cover skills, but decent blitzing ability, will take HB off our hands I'm guessing.

 

[Jetstream Green]

A team wanting a DB with almost zero cover skills, but decent blitzing ability, will take HB off our hands I'm guessing.

I think another reason he has problems removed from his injuries is that he's an instinctive player, meaning you have to give him free range to roam and Bettcher (not wrongly) gave him more responsibilities which he would not remain focus while salivating on the action at the line of scrimmage

 

[MadCardDisease]

Has something to do with jurecky being always wrong?

This has nothing to do with Jurecki. It's a common sense numbers thing. Mathieu hasn't played up to an elite level like he is getting paid. This past season he was just average as was the season before. In this business you can't afford to pay average guys top dollar.

 

[overseascardfan]

This just in, water is wet and the Earth is round. He's confident huh?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Let Mathieu walk, and sign a guy like Ross Cockrell in the offseason. You save about 12 million dollars in salary and have about the same or better production from your nickel back.

 

[football karma]

for the skepticism Jurecki gets:

his reporting is consistent with what Somers, Urban and others have been saying. Jurecki is a bit more emphatic on it than others .....