Just say NO to Bulger!!!

[CardLogic]

We the fans of the Arizona Cardinals, the financial supporters of the team implore upon the Bidwills, Rod Graves and Ken Whizenhunt the following:

Lightning does not strike twice!

Please do not carry on with the notion that you can catch lightning in a bottle twice. Mark Bulger is not and never was, and never will be Kurt Warner. Please do not entertain the notion that you can go into the next NFL season with Mark Bulger as the starting quarterback!

Signed,

CardLogic

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[AzStevenCal]

Just say NO to Bulger

We the fans of the Arizona Cardinals, the financial supporters of the team implore upon the Bidwills, Rod Graves and Ken Whizenhunt the following:

Just say NO THANKS to Bulger. It never hurts to be polite. Please, dear sirs, do not send us Bulger.

Steve

 

[JCSunsfan]

AND Orton.

 

[CardLogic]

Just say NO THANKS to Bulger. It never hurts to be polite.

I said, "please"! Twice!

 

[AzStevenCal]

I said, "please"! Twice!

We'll save begging as a last resort.

Steve

 

[JeffGollin]

OK. "No!"

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Co-sign!

 

[Snakester]

No Bulger. Don't even say his name. He is a walking corpse of a QB.

 

[conraddobler]

I'd use reverse psychology on this one.

Beg for and demand Bulger, it's the only way to stop this.

Almost nothing happens the way I want, so I'll try and convince myself we must have Bulger and that getting Luck would absolutely be the worst thing possible.

I'm going to need to do some heavy mind altering stuff for this, which is ok, I'm fine with that.

 

[Mulli]

I'd use reverse psychology on this one.

Beg for and demand Bulger, it's the only way to stop this.

This is 100% spot on.

 

[DoTheDew]

If we are drafting a QB to develop, then yes to Bulger. If we are bringing him in with hopes of him being our QB of the next 5 years then hell no.

 

[stewdog1]

I'd say yes to Bulger to compete for the starting job with Skelton and any rookie QB we draft high.

 

[Early]

Yes to Bulger. He is far better than Hall or Skelton.

But he is injure prone. So draft a QB, early in the draft, to make sure we don't see Hall/Skelton next year, because they are not ready.

That would ensure a much better season next year. We blame so much the HC for this year, but we tend to forget we almost won the division and went to playoffs without any QB at all. That's actually impressive.

With a QB next year and hopefully another DC, we should win NFC west easy.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yes to Bulger. He is far better than Hall or Skelton.

But he is injure prone. So draft a QB, early in the draft, to make sure we don't see Hall/Skelton next year, because they are not ready.

That would ensure a much better season next year. We blame so much the HC for this year, but we tend to forget we almost won the division and went to playoffs without any QB at all. That's actually impressive.

With a QB next year and hopefully another DC, we should win NFC west easy.

He used to be. If we were to magically fix our front line, perhaps he could be again but we look to be a few decades away from solving that problem. If you don't like Bulger the man, by all means, bring him in. It can't hurt us as much as it WILL hurt him.

And, personally, I think we should have a moratorium on the phrase/idea that someone is worth a look simply because he's better than DA or Hall.

Steve

 

[vinnymac]

I have to say a big Hell Yeah to Bulger. Everyone on this board wants a qb that can read the defense and call the right play. Bulger can do this. He hasn't forgot how to read a defense or find the open reciever. The last 3 years with the rams bulger didn't have a good coach or talent around him. No running game or recievers to throw to. Holt was at the end of his career and Stephen Jackson was often injured as well. The rams offensive line was horrible. Therefore Bulger took a beating. I am all for Bulger. The Cardinals have a lot of personel decision to make this offseason.

 

[conraddobler]

I have to say a big Hell Yeah to Bulger. Everyone on this board wants a qb that can read the defense and call the right play. Bulger can do this. He hasn't forgot how to read a defense or find the open reciever. The last 3 years with the rams bulger didn't have a good coach or talent around him. No running game or recievers to throw to. Holt was at the end of his career and Stephen Jackson was often injured as well. The rams offensive line was horrible. Therefore Bulger took a beating. I am all for Bulger. The Cardinals have a lot of personel decision to make this offseason.

Sure, fine, totally on board.

Would be wildly better than what we have now, but if we go that route then we have to draft a QB, Bulger isn't going to play very much longer and you have no idea how he'd hold up behind our O line either.

 

[vinnymac]

Sure, fine, totally on board.

Would be wildly better than what we have now, but if we go that route then we have to draft a QB, Bulger isn't going to play very much longer and you have no idea how he'd hold up behind our O line either.

I am not expecting Bulger to be the savor of this franchise. I do expect Bulger to be more competive than what we have been. JC, Who knew that 7 wins was the magic number to win the NFC West. What an embrassment it is to all the NFC West teams. Bulger can get us an extra 3-4 wins next season alone in this division.

I do agree that Bulger would be just a band-aid for this team at QB position. The Cardinals do need to find a long term solution to their Qb woes. May not be this offseason unless Skelton or Hall shows something. I have always said though "If you are picking in the top ten, then every Position is a major concern."

 

[conraddobler]

I am not expecting Bulger to be the savor of this franchise. I do expect Bulger to be more competive than what we have been. JC, Who knew that 7 wins was the magic number to win the NFC West. What an embrassment it is to all the NFC West teams. Bulger can get us an extra 3-4 wins next season alone in this division.

I do agree that Bulger would be just a band-aid for this team at QB position. The Cardinals do need to find a long term solution to their Qb woes. May not be this offseason unless Skelton or Hall shows something. I have always said though "If you are picking in the top ten, then every Position is a major concern."

I just don't want this FO to get caught with it's pants down again like they did when KW retired.

Yeah, sure it might have been a surprise but you were grooming a guy for years to make the jump then bailed on the groomed one.

Let's not run down that road again.

 

[desertdawg]

I just don't want this FO to get caught with it's pants down again like they did when KW retired.

Yeah, sure it might have been a surprise but you were grooming a guy for years to make the jump then bailed on the groomed one.

Let's not run down that road again.

That's kinda what I was thinking. Bulger comes in and starts, gets hurt oh...I'd say around game 3 or 4. Then Skelton would come in, show improvement, then they would wheel Bulger back on the field.

 

[vinnymac]

I just don't want this FO to get caught with it's pants down again like they did when KW retired.

Yeah, sure it might have been a surprise but you were grooming a guy for years to make the jump then bailed on the groomed one.

Let's not run down that road again.

Releasing Matt Leinart may of not have been the smartest move the Cardinals made last season, but i am sure they have learned from it. i am just for getting back to the playoffs.

 

[Zeno]

I have to say a big Hell Yeah to Bulger. Everyone on this board wants a qb that can read the defense and call the right play. Bulger can do this. He hasn't forgot how to read a defense or find the open reciever. The last 3 years with the rams bulger didn't have a good coach or talent around him. No running game or recievers to throw to. Holt was at the end of his career and Stephen Jackson was often injured as well. The rams offensive line was horrible. Therefore Bulger took a beating. I am all for Bulger. The Cardinals have a lot of personel decision to make this offseason.

Problem with that argument is that Bradford had pretty much the same coaches, WRs, OL & RBs and put up better numbers as a ROOKIE than Bulger has in 4 years.

Just because Bulger is better than DA, Hall & Skelton doesn't mean he is the ideal choice--there are about 60+ guys better than them.

 

[vinnymac]

Problem with that argument is that Bradford had pretty much the same coaches, WRs, OL & RBs and put up better numbers as a ROOKIE than Bulger has in 4 years.

Just because Bulger is better than DA, Hall & Skelton doesn't mean he is the ideal choice--there are about 60+ guys better than them.

Ok, name 60 that are better and are going to be avaible for the Cardinals.

What do you mean pretty much the same coaches and wr's, ol, and Rb's. you mean at the end of his career Torry Holt, often Injuried Marshall Faulk & Stephen Jackson, and let me know which lineman is left from that spectacular starting 5 with Jim Hasslet coaching. Bulger number dropped when Martz was let go. that is the truth.

 

[Zeno]

Ok, name 60 that are better and are going to be avaible for the Cardinals.

What do you mean pretty much the same coaches and wr's, ol, and Rb's. you mean at the end of his career Torry Holt, often Injuried Marshall Faulk & Stephen Jackson, and let me know which lineman is left from that spectacular starting 5 with Jim Hasslet coaching. Bulger number dropped when Martz was let go. that is the truth.

2009 Rams are not much different than the 2010 Rams

Bulger 2009 5 TDs 6 INTs 56% YPA 5.9 (9 Games because he is brittle)
Bradford 2010 18 TDs 15 INTs 60% YPA 6.0

Leading rusher in 2009 Jackson Leading rusher in 2010 Jackson
Leading receiver in 2009 Avery(Amendiola #2) Leading Receiver in 2010 Amediola

Coach the same both seasons.

Its not like Bulger hasn't played football since 2006 he just hasn't played GOOD football since 2006

 

[vinnymac]

2009 Rams are not much different than the 2010 Rams

Bulger 2009 5 TDs 6 INTs 56% YPA 5.9 (9 Games because he is brittle)
Bradford 2010 18 TDs 15 INTs 60% YPA 6.0

Leading rusher in 2009 Jackson Leading rusher in 2010 Jackson
Leading receiver in 2009 Avery(Amendiola #2) Leading Receiver in 2010 Amediola

Coach the same both seasons.

Its not like Bulger hasn't played football since 2006 he just hasn't played GOOD football since 2006

With all those talented leaders around Bulger and that amazing front 5 that Bulger had protecting him They still had the #1 draft pick in 2010. What about 2007 and 2008. The reason why Bulger numbers decline is because the talent around him decline as well.

I am waiting for your top 60 qb that are avaible for the Cardinals that are better than Bulger.

 

[Zeno]

With all those talented leaders around Bulger and that amazing front 5 that Bulger had protecting him They still had the #1 draft pick in 2010. What about 2007 and 2008. The reason why Bulger numbers decline is because the talent around him decline as well.

I am waiting for your top 60 qb that are avaible for the Cardinals that are better than Bulger.

Reading is fundamental--the point is that Bradford with nearly the EXACT same supporting cast put up better numbers as a ROOKIE than Bulger the veteran QB you want to bring in here. Bulger who has 1 season in his career where he appeared in all 16 games, who hasn't completed 60% since 2006 who hasn't thrown more TDs than INTs since 2006...that isn't a lot to be excited about. 2007 & 2008 he sucked too...whats your point? He is not a good QB, he hasn't been even an average QB in FIVE years, thats an eternity in the NFL.

Did I say there were 60 better than Bulger? Nope. I said there were 60+ better than DA, Hall & Skelton. I said just because he is better than those 3 doesn't mean I want him. You could find Arena & CFL guys better than the 3 we finished the season with and that doesn't mean I want them either.