Kadeem Carey just fell to our rd3 pick - 4.65 - 40

[sundevil04]

I could care less about his 40 time, his game is vision and balance with some power. If he's there in rd3 after Troy Niklas or Austin Sefarius Jenkins in RD2, this offense just became dynamic.

For the record, Emmit Smith ran a 4.7, his game is also between the tackles, vision and balance.

 

[sundevil04]

4.62 on his 2nd attempt. Both of those numbers are unofficial and will likely be closer to 4.70 when the official times come in. He'll be there in rd3.

1.) Darqueze Denard/Justin Gilbert/Calvin Pryor
2.) Troy Niklas/Austin Sefarius-Jenkins
3.) Kadeem Carey


LT in FA


YES PLEASE!

 

[Finito]

I think he was going in rounds 3-5 no matter what 40 time he ran

 

[sundevil04]

He's a steal in rd3 and highway robbery in 4 or 5

 

[Vermont Maverick]

He also can't catch, apparently. Combine is not going well for Mr. Carey.

 

[NMCard]

After using 2 picks on the running back position in last year's draft do you think they would even go that direction in this draft? Especially that early?

 

[TJ]

For the record, Montee Ball ran a 4.7 as well, and still went in the 2nd round. If scouts are basing his stock on the 40, they aren't doing their jobs.

 

[TJ]

He also can't catch, apparently.

He can catch. That's not an issue.

 

[HeavyB3]

You can never have too many offensive weapons. We'll need a 3rd running back too after we realize we've already donated enough pity money to Ryan Williams.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

My God this guy in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th would be INCREDIBLE. He is so much better then Taylor its not even funny.

Im on the record. Guy will be a stud. Not a shirts and shorts guy. Dont let the process confuse you. He will be best rookie back and it wont even be close.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Feel bad for him losing money but whatever team gets him 3rd round + now is going to be very happy IMHO

 

[sundevil04]

RB is an underrated need for this team. I highly doubt Mendenhall will be back, Ryan Williams can't be trusted to stay healthy and S.Taylor showed absolutely nothing that would lead me to believe he can be a 12+ carry/game guy.

That leaves us with just Ellington. While I love the guy, he can't be the only guy.

I wouldn't use a rd1 or 2 pick on a RB, but 3-4 I sure would

 

[Brian]

He also can't catch, apparently. Combine is not going well for Mr. Carey.

Exactly. He looked pretty bad in alot of the drills. I was surprised. He can run the football though, so in the end he may have just cost himself a bit of money today.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He doesn't do anything for me but he has alot of support around here. I sense a bit of homerism and that's fine. I hope he has a nice career. I just can't excited about him.

I know Rodriguez was in the spread about 100% of the time at Michigan and don't even know if they had a FB on the roster. Has Carey even lined up in a traditional offense, like in an I formation, and run the ball?

I know Carlos Hyde was asked that question because running the ball out the spread is different than a traditional power I type offense.

 

[sundevil04]

He doesn't do anything for me but he has alot of support around here. I sense a bit of homerism and that's fine. I hope he has a nice career. I just can't excited about him.

I know Rodriguez was in the spread about 100% of the time at Michigan and don't even know if they had a FB on the roster. Has Carey even lined up in a traditional offense, like in an I formation, and run the ball?

I know Carlos Hyde was asked that question because running the ball out the spread is different than a traditional power I type offense.

He's led the nation in rushing the past TWO years, that's not "homerism".

And BTW, you do realize that BA's first move when he got to AZ was to trade the only FB on the roster, because he doesn't use one...ever. Kadeem would be running out of the same one back sets here in AZ as he did in college.

The total amount of times the Cards offense had 2 backs on the field at once - ZERO.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/splits/_/name/ari/arizona-cardinals

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He's led the nation in rushing the past TWO years, that's not "homerism".

And BTW, you do realize that BA's first move when he got to AZ was to trade the only FB on the roster, because he doesn't use one...ever. Kadeem would be running out of the same one back sets here in AZ as he did in college.

Well, the Pac 12, other than Stanford, isn't exactly known for playing any defense so I take the numbers with a little skepticism. They aren't as bad as the Big 12 defensively, but guys can, and do, put up numbers in the PAC 12. That's why I say the next Oregon skill player to do anything of significance in the NFL will be the first.

The offense Arians runs, FB or not, is nothing like the spread offense run by RR.

 

[TJ]

He's led the nation in rushing the past TWO years, that's not "homerism".

And BTW, you do realize that BA's first move when he got to AZ was to trade the only FB on the roster, because he doesn't use one...ever. Kadeem would be running out of the same one back sets here in AZ as he did in college.

The total amount of times the Cards offense had 2 backs on the field at once - ZERO.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/splits/_/name/ari/arizona-cardinals

He led in 2012 but not last season.

And yes, KaDeem doesn't need a FB, let alone any lead blocker, he simply destroys anything in front of him.

 

[TJ]

Well, the Pac 12, other than Stanford, isn't exactly known for playing any defense so I take the numbers with a little skepticism. They aren't as bad as the Big 12 defensively, but guys can, and do, put up numbers in the PAC 12. That's why I say the next Oregon skill player to do anything of significance in the NFL will be the first.

The offense Arians runs, FB or not, is nothing like the spread offense run by RR.

And roughly 3700 yards in two seasons and 16 consecutive 100+ yard games is the fault of PAC defenses and not individual skill set? I honestly think you need to watch more film on him. Not a slight on your knowledge of the game, but I'm not quite sure where you're seeing the deficiencies.

As someone who watches every snap of UofA football, I only endorse a few players for the NFL. Last one was Nick Foles.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Every couple of years, you see a back who you know is going to be a great NFL running back based on what they did in college, but you know that they are going to be drafted lower than they should because they didn't go to a school that is on TV every week (Curtis Enis or Blair Thomas) or run an insanely fast 40 time even though they might not be able to hold up for long under the rigors of the NFL (Chris Johnson). Kadeem Carey is in the Maurice Jones-Drew, Jamaal Charles, Ray Rice and LeSean Mccoy category. Every team in the NFL will pass on him at least once and then scratch their heads in a few years about why they did. Carey just happened to go to the U of A so a few more of us can see his obvious bright NFL future. He is evasive, durable, runs hard, can catch the ball, block, finish, and has burst that can't be measured in a 40 yard dash.

 

[sundevil04]

Well, the Pac 12, other than Stanford, isn't exactly known for playing any defense so I take the numbers with a little skepticism. They aren't as bad as the Big 12 defensively, but guys can, and do, put up numbers in the PAC 12. That's why I say the next Oregon skill player to do anything of significance in the NFL will be the first.

The offense Arians runs, FB or not, is nothing like the spread offense run by RR.

To say that the PAC12 defenses are the reason for his numbers is a complete cop out response. The PAC 12 was the 2nd best conference in all of college football last season.

He averaged 153 yards/game over the past 2 years and 5.9 yards/carry. You want consistency, in 20 of his last 21 games he ran for over 115 yards and never averaged less than 4.3 YPC.

ASU had a VERY good run defense, Carey slashed them for 157 yards. USC had one of the nations top rush defenses...138 yards(plus 36 more in the air). You mentioned Stanford's defense? one of the best in ANY conference, 132 yards and 3 TD's.

Keep in mind when looking at his numbers that he was the ONLY weapon on that offense and was the focus of every D coordinator he faced. Not to mention, the total number of U of A offensive lineman that will ever see an NFL training camp...ZERO.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

To say that the PAC12 defenses are the reason for his numbers is a complete cop out response. The PAC 12 was the 2nd best conference in all of college football last season.

He averaged 153 yards/game over the past 2 years and 5.9 yards/carry. You want consistency, in 20 of his last 21 games he ran for over 115 yards and never averaged less than 4.3 YPC.

ASU had a VERY good run defense, Carey slashed them for 157 yards. USC had one of the nations top rush defenses...138 yards(plus 36 more in the air). You mentioned Stanford's defense? one of the best in ANY conference, 132 yards and 3 TD's.

Keep in mind when looking at his numbers that he was the ONLY weapon on that offense and was the focus of every D coordinator he faced.

Nice to see ASU fans and U of A fans coming together to share their common sense with people who apparently listened to the ESPN narrative. The PAC 12 was very strong this year and I can't understand how people didn't see it.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Nice to see ASU fans and U of A fans coming together to share their common sense with people who apparently listened to the ESPN narrative. The PAC 12 was very strong this year and I can't understand how people didn't see it.

I thought the Pac12 was as good as anyone this past year and admit the Big 10 stinks. Still, they are not a conference that's kown for their defenses.

As for Carey, I've been wrong numerous times. I just don't see him being a big factor in the NFL. He'll be on someone's roster and play a role but I don't see him being a feature/main back of any kind.

Granted, you guys have seen him much more than I have but when I have seen him he looks like a good college RB that is iffy at the pro level.

 

[juza76]

i watched a couple of tape of dri archer..last season ,2012,had a great one.
he make people miss and he is very fast.if he he find a hole. nobody can chase him
he has good hands,maybe he can turn to be a tj hilton type..even if he is just 173 e had 20 reps in bench press..and are above average numbers for wide receiver.

 

[sundevil04]

I thought the Pac12 was as good as anyone this past year and admit the Big 10 stinks. Still, they are not a conference that's kown for their defenses.

As for Carey, I've been wrong numerous times. I just don't see him being a big factor in the NFL. He'll be on someone's roster and play a role but I don't see him being a feature/main back of any kind.

Granted, you guys have seen him much more than I have but when I have seen him he looks like a good college RB that is iffy at the pro level.

The pac12 had 3 of the better run defenses in the country this season.

Outside of the SEC, what conference would you say is "known for their defenses?"

 

[football karma]

I like Kadeem Carey, but if this guy had played anywhere outside of AZ, I suspect there would be no individual threads about drafting him.