Keep Leandro!!!

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Long-time lurker, first-time poster here...

Just wondering if anyone else is thinking the same thing I am.

I want KG. I think he is better than Duncan, but hasn't had the supporting cast.

I want to keep Amare more than Marion. They both may have questionable attitudes, but Amare delivers in the clutch and has a desire to be the best in the league.

I love Leandro, as a player and a person. He's a future All-Star with crazy physical skills. I think he and Amare can be the keys to our future.

But, if we can get KG, is anyone else willing to trade Amare, so long as the trade doesn't include Leandro, more than trading Marion AND Leandro?
 

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I am definitely willing to trade Leandro. I don't see him as anything more than a 20-point scoring tweener. He has little point guard skills and for a chance to get a KG-Amare combo that will help us win NOW I would throw in a little more than Marion and Barbosa. I don't think we can win if we don't do anything... getting Garnett improves our defense and our team during the playoffs. I'd rather win now that we can and not worry about the future. With Amare's microfracture surgery who knows how long he'll last anyway?

I don't regret for 1 second what the Diamondbacks did to win the World Series so I'd be fine if we go for it now and have an average team for half a decade.
 

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Keep him! He's a shade below Tony Parker in skills, and he's only getting better.
 

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Can't trade Amare for KG, pretty much no matter what. If we can do a package with Marion and picks I would be thrilled. Unfortunately, if we trade Marion and Barbosa along with picks (which it appears the price will be) we may regret giving up Leandro. While he had a bad series against the Spurs, Barbosa has had the improvement curve as Amare. He continues to get better and is still only 24. Losing both Marion and Barbosa would deliver a huge blow to our transition game.
 

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Can't trade Amare for KG, pretty much no matter what. If we can do a package with Marion and picks I would be thrilled. Unfortunately, if we trade Marion and Barbosa along with picks (which it appears the price will be) we may regret giving up Leandro. While he had a bad series against the Spurs, Barbosa has had the improvement curve as Amare. He continues to get better and is still only 24. Losing both Marion and Barbosa would deliver a huge blow to our transition game.


we may not be as good in transition but that wont help us beat the spurs/mavs. KG can dominate the boards which is what kills us against dallas, and he can play defense very well which killed us against sa. he is also a better shot blocker in the lane, which helps even more against SA. instead of working on our transition (which we already know we are the best at) how about we add to defense and rebounding which we struggle in?
 

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we may not be as good in transition but that wont help us beat the spurs/mavs. KG can dominate the boards which is what kills us against dallas, and he can play defense very well which killed us against sa. he is also a better shot blocker in the lane, which helps even more against SA. instead of working on our transition (which we already know we are the best at) how about we add to defense and rebounding which we struggle in?

Oh, for the record I think we should try and make it happen, I just think Barbosa is going to be a star. He is an excellent 3 point shooter and a superb finisher. If he can improve on his mid-range shot he will be unstoppable. He also has a very reasonable contract and works extremely hard to improve.
 

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Any trade without risks is a trade the other team won't agree to. The Suns need to offer Barbosa even though they may regret it later.
 

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whoever is not fine with losing Leandro is out of their minds. His trade value is higher than ever, and despite what people are saying about his ability to be a superstar, he cant do it. He turns the ball over far too many times when the ball is consistently in his possession. Love him, but honestly this is the time to dump him because no one can center a team around Leandro Barbosa or Marion, BUT WE CAN CENTER A TEAM AROUND AMARE. If we end up trading Amare for KG, we may have one decent season, but its the PITS from then on. KG is about to turn into an older player... Think Penny downfall, but worse.
 

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I like Barbosa and will be sad to see him traded.

But, absolutely NO AMARE TRADE!!
 

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If the Suns did include LB in trade they'd defenitely need another guard. Nash, Raja and garbage just won't get it done.
 

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I wonder with some of the Microfracture projections if KG and Amare's careers are about the same in terms of time left? KG could play 3-5 good years and then start declining and Amare might need a new operation in that sam amount of time.
 

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they are not going to want barbosa.... they traded james so foye could start. dont worry about losing lb.
 

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I wonder with some of the Microfracture projections if KG and Amare's careers are about the same in terms of time left? KG could play 3-5 good years and then start declining and Amare might need a new operation in that sam amount of time.


a very good point but if he doesn't need the surgery then what? and we've seen him come back once, but repeated surgery like that is not going to be overcomable multiple times
 

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we may not be as good in transition but that wont help us beat the spurs/mavs. KG can dominate the boards which is what kills us against dallas, and he can play defense very well which killed us against sa. he is also a better shot blocker in the lane, which helps even more against SA. instead of working on our transition (which we already know we are the best at) how about we add to defense and rebounding which we struggle in?
Agree 100%
 

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Nasser, I agree with the general concept of what you're trying to say, but there's a BIG difference between what Arizona did to make their run at the World Series and the parrallel (sic) with the Suns trading for KG.

The move that ultimately helped that team more than anything was the trade for Schilling. Sure, they gambled but the big player they dealt was Travis Lee, who more or less had played himself out of a job anyhow and with the play of Durazo, to say that Lee was expendable would be greatly underexaggerating things.
 

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Leandro is not really expendible. He's only a 1/2 point per game lower than Nash in terms of scoring at 18.1 ppg; he's the closest thing the Suns have to being a backup point guard (4.0 assists per game), and second on the team in steals at 1.2,
 

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Leandro is not really expendible. He's only a 1/2 point per game lower than Nash in terms of scoring at 18.1 ppg; he's the closest thing the Suns have to being a backup point guard (4.0 assists per game), and second on the team in steals at 1.2,

He IS expendible, if it means getting KG.

I would be willing to do a Marion, Barbosa, KT trade for KG and fillers.
 

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If we lose LB in a deal that includes Marion, I am willing to do it. I hate to say it because I love watching Leandro play. I've been amazed by his progress over the years, and he's just a great guy who is only getting better. It would be really tough for me to see him go.
 

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He IS expendible, if it means getting KG.

I would be willing to do a Marion, Barbosa, KT trade for KG and fillers.

It isn't happening. But even if it was, I'd be pretty nervious about a team with only six rotation players and that includes Jones starting. Somehow the solution of filling in a rotation with minimum salary guys doesn't sound that promising to me.

Please, don't just give me the KG and Amare would be wonderful stuff. Sure they would be. The Suns depth problem sank them this last season and we are supposed to beat the Spurs with six guys and no backup point guard and no offense off the bench. I just don't see it.
 

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Nasser, I agree with the general concept of what you're trying to say, but there's a BIG difference between what Arizona did to make their run at the World Series and the parrallel (sic) with the Suns trading for KG.

The move that ultimately helped that team more than anything was the trade for Schilling. Sure, they gambled but the big player they dealt was Travis Lee, who more or less had played himself out of a job anyhow and with the play of Durazo, to say that Lee was expendable would be greatly underexaggerating things.
All I meant was that I really couldn't care less about the future because Amare-Nash-KG means championships. The Diamondbacks were in some serious debt later on, but I really don't regret the overspending. Not wanting to trade Barbosa when you can get KG just seems dumb to me. Especially since he has shown very little point guard skills and is way too short to be a SG.
 

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