Kendall release coming this week

[az jam]

Jets | Kendall release coming this week
Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:14:42 -0800

Dave Hutchinson, of the Star-Ledger, reports the New York Jets will release OG Pete Kendall sometime this week.


The Jets have major cap problems and this should be no surprise. Don't think Denny would even think of bringing him back

 

[Redheart]

Jets | Kendall release coming this week
Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:14:42 -0800

Dave Hutchinson, of the Star-Ledger, reports the New York Jets will release OG Pete Kendall sometime this week.


The Jets have major cap problems and this should be no surprise. Don't think Denny would even think of bringing him back

How can the Jets release this All-Pro????



Jeez, it's been a long time since we had a good Kendall thread.

 

[Card Trader]

Cutting a franchise player like Pete K is unheard of!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Russ Smith]

It's strictly financial, the Jets have said they don't want to cut Kendall but probably have to because of his salary and their cap. Same situation with mawae. I think some of this is tied to pennington's contract, I think if they cut him they take a large caphit and they're figuring they will just bite the bullet and do that since they don't expect to contend this year anyways.

 

[Redheart]

It's strictly financial...

Of course it is.

He is just too good to re-structure or try something creative to keep.

He is such a leader and team player that the Jets felt he should be allowed to get his best deal in Free Agency and therefore benefit the whole NFL.

 

[vince56]

Redheart, you hit the nail on the head.

 

[Russ Smith]

Of course it is.

He is just too good to re-structure or try something creative to keep.

He is such a leader and team player that the Jets felt he should be allowed to get his best deal in Free Agency and therefore benefit the whole NFL.

he and Mawae are in the same situation, and apparently will make the same decision. It happens every year to a team in caphell, they come to players and ask them to restructure, some do, some don't. Guys at the end of their careers, like Kendall and mawae, typically don't want to do it.

If I had to guess, I'd say both guys have a very good reason, they WANT to be released because they realize the Jets are going to be in major rebuild mode and they don't want to spend the last year or two of their careers in that situation.

This isn't a Plummer restructure situation where in exchange for lowering his current cap figure he gets an up front bonus, this is a hey we need you to take a paycut, same with mawae. It's easy to take one for the team when it results in cash in your pocket, when you're literally taking less money, very few NFL players do it voluntarily.

Thats's what made Tillman so unique turning down the Rams offer to take less and stay with us because we're the ones that gave him a chance.

 

[Redheart]

he and Mawae are in the same situation, and apparently will make the same decision. It happens every year to a team in caphell, they come to players and ask them to restructure, some do, some don't. Guys at the end of their careers, like Kendall and mawae, typically don't want to do it.

If I had to guess, I'd say both guys have a very good reason, they WANT to be released because they realize the Jets are going to be in major rebuild mode and they don't want to spend the last year or two of their careers in that situation.

This isn't a Plummer restructure situation where in exchange for lowering his current cap figure he gets an up front bonus, this is a hey we need you to take a paycut, same with mawae. It's easy to take one for the team when it results in cash in your pocket, when you're literally taking less money, very few NFL players do it voluntarily.

Thats's what made Tillman so unique turning down the Rams offer to take less and stay with us because we're the ones that gave him a chance.

The Jets are saying, "Pete, considering everything, you are not worth the money".

The Jets are also saying, "Pete, considering how good you are, it's just better if we cut you rather than try and work anything out".

All I can say is...Denny said it first.

 

[Russ Smith]

The Jets are saying, "Pete, considering everything, you are not worth the money".

The Jets are also saying, "Pete, considering how good you are, it's just better if we cut you rather than try and work anything out".

All I can say is...Denny said it first.

Actually they're saying we don't think Pennington's shoulder is ever going to heal, we're going to cut him now because we expect we won't be very good this year so we might as well take the caphit now. And that's why Mawae and Kendall are going to get cut.

Pennington cut this year creates 12 million in "dead money" for the jets. He costs 15 million against the cap so theoretically he "saves" them 3 million, but that 12 million in dead money makes it a lot harder to get a reasonable QB to replace him. They've asked him to cut his salary this year(salary and roster bonus) from 9 to 1 million, supposedly his agent hasnt' even bothered to reply to the request.

So the Jets will cut him, and then cut Kendall and Mawae to give them some cap space.

Not saying the Jets think Kendall is the best Guard in the NFL or something, just that this move has very little to do with Kendall's playing ability, it's a financial move to get some capspace for the Jets to start rebuilding, and it's all triggered by the situation with Pennington because of his shoulder.

 

[Redheart]

...Not saying the Jets think Kendall is the best Guard in the NFL or something, just that this move has very little to do with Kendall's playing ability, it's a financial move to get some capspace for the Jets to start rebuilding,...

I think the Jets are saying a lot about his playing ability; Pete is not worth the money. Some posters pointed to his big-contract with the Jets as validation of his playing ability; "Denny cut our best all-pro lineman".

If he was playing like an elite lineman, the Jets would have found a way...or somebody else would have been the cap-casulty...but...

The Jets just agreed with Denny two-years later.

 

[AzWins23]

 

[Redheart]

Absolutely!

Offer the vet-minimum. It would be worth to have him walk around the locker room as an example.

 

[Red Dawn]

Dayum, I wanted to be the first one to use that smiley!

 

[spanky1]

Bottom line.....the Jets said to be going to "blow up the team" and start over....pretty well have to in order to get from under their cap problems.

Herm Edwards was smart to get out and get a decent HC job before the "proverbial" hit the fan.

Sure fire team to end up #32 this year.

 

[Russ Smith]

I think the Jets are saying a lot about his playing ability; Pete is not worth the money. Some posters pointed to his big-contract with the Jets as validation of his playing ability; "Denny cut our best all-pro lineman".

If he was playing like an elite lineman, the Jets would have found a way...or somebody else would have been the cap-casulty...but...

The Jets just agreed with Denny two-years later.

So the Colts think Edge can't play and the Seahawks think Shaun Alexander can't play? Both teams appear ready to possibly let them go because they don't want to pay big bucks to them.

The jets are under a whole new regime, they realize they're not going to be very good this year, and they're rebuilding. They're releasing big contract players for a reason, to get caproom to work with in the future.

You can keep trying to use this to vindicate Green's decision if you want but the Jets are going into cost cutting mode. If Kendall still wants to play, someone will sign him, probably for far less money than the Jets owe him now, he is afterall 33 now.

 

[D-Dogg]

I sure hope this doesn't affect the unveiling of his statue at the new stadium. We're on a tight timeline here!

 

[Redheart]

So the Colts think Edge can't play and the Seahawks think Shaun Alexander can't play? ...

You can't be serious. Your comparing SA and EJ at their position with Pete at his? Your typing-fingers should get a hang-nail for that.

 

[Card Trader]

So the Colts think Edge can't play and the Seahawks think Shaun Alexander can't play? Both teams appear ready to possibly let them go because they don't want to pay big bucks to them.

The jets are under a whole new regime, they realize they're not going to be very good this year, and they're rebuilding. They're releasing big contract players for a reason, to get caproom to work with in the future.

You can keep trying to use this to vindicate Green's decision if you want but the Jets are going into cost cutting mode. If Kendall still wants to play, someone will sign him, probably for far less money than the Jets owe him now, he is afterall 33 now.

Cutting someone and not re-signing them in FA are two totally separate things.

 

[Russ Smith]

Cutting someone and not re-signing them in FA are two totally separate things.

Right, you cut someone that you think you no longer need or can afford, whereas not resigning someone is done when you think you no longer need or can afford someone.

To me the only difference is that in this case the financial need came about before the end of a contract.

 

[Russ Smith]

You can't be serious. Your comparing SA and EJ at their position with Pete at his? Your typing-fingers should get a hang-nail for that.

So let's assume both guys do indeed became UFA's, you seriously going to say that doesn't mean the Colts and Seahawks don't think they can play anymore?

I think we both know the answer is that both teams are thinking they are expecting far more money than we are able to pay them and field a full roster. And the Jets are thinking in light of cutting Pennington, Kendall and Mawae are DUE far more money than we're able to pay them. The difference is they can't just let Kendall and Mawae's contracts expire, they have to cut them.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I sure hope this doesn't affect the unveiling of his statue at the new stadium. We're on a tight timeline here!

 

[Redheart]

...You can keep trying to use this to vindicate Green's decision if you want but the Jets are going into cost cutting mode...

Yes, I am. Past posters had used the Jets hiring Pete to a big fat contract as vidication of his playing skills and Denny's decision to can him as pure ego.

...If Kendall still wants to play, someone will sign him, probably for far less money than the Jets owe him now, he is afterall 33 now.

I agree, but for much less $ and probably as a back-up, somthing on par with his playing ability. In fairness he is two-years older, but I think his decline began three years ago.

 

[Redheart]

So let's assume both guys do indeed became UFA's, you seriously going to say that doesn't mean the Colts and Seahawks don't think they can play anymore?

I think we both know the answer is that both teams are thinking they are expecting far more money than we are able to pay them and field a full roster. And the Jets are thinking in light of cutting Pennington, Kendall and Mawae are DUE far more money than we're able to pay them. The difference is they can't just let Kendall and Mawae's contracts expire, they have to cut them.

SA and EJ are both BIG $ and Prime Time players; no comparrison exists with Kendall. The money is not close, the performance at position is not close....

The Kendall cutting is more like trimming a big hunk of ugly fat from an over-extended budget....or else...

...why don't they TRADE HIM?

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

So let's assume both guys do indeed became UFA's, you seriously going to say that doesn't mean the Colts and Seahawks don't think they can play anymore?

I think we both know the answer is that both teams are thinking they are expecting far more money than we are able to pay them and field a full roster. And the Jets are thinking in light of cutting Pennington, Kendall and Mawae are DUE far more money than we're able to pay them. The difference is they can't just let Kendall and Mawae's contracts expire, they have to cut them.

Russ are you arguing the fact that Kendell is good but is only being cut because of financial reasons or are you arguing to save face on your initial claim that it was wrong for Denny to cut PK?

Honestly, I think your both wrong. PK isnt being cut b/c he cant play. Thats absurd. Between him and Mawae they helped propel Martin to a rushing title last year and by all acounts (after he readjusted to playing center again) PK haD a fine year.

On the other hand, cutting PK was the right thing to do. He was never ever gonna play for Green. Like I have said before, dont you remember Mac and PK being best buds? Holding press conferences together, playing off each other, cracking jokes etc. PK didnt like Mac leaving and he was gonna do what it took to get out from under Denny's regime. You can argue DG didnt do the right thing with the line, but cutting PK was not one of them imo.

 

[Russ Smith]

SA and EJ are both BIG $ and Prime Time players; no comparrison exists with Kendall. The money is not close, the performance at position is not close....

The Kendall cutting is more like trimming a big hunk of ugly fat from an over-extended budget....or else...

...why don't they TRADE HIM?

Teams don't often trade for a 33 year old OL that they know is about to be cut. If the word wasn't already out, they might have been able to trade him.

Kendall played just fine at guard, and struggled when moved to C. If you recall his first year there Curtis martin had a rebirth, most yards and highest YPC in his entire career, and martin himself said signing Kendall was part of the reason. Last year they had massive QB problems, massive injury problems(lost Mawae) and when they moved Kendall to C, he played terribly.

In both cases teams are dealing with how many players can we pay big money and be under the cap. It's easier to justify when you are a contender like Seattle or the Colts.