He literally just had 1000 yards and was the 3rd best WR2 in the league. What more does he need to do to say he's a "strong #2"?
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He literally just had 1000 yards and was the 3rd best WR2 in the league. What more does he need to do to say he's a "strong #2"?
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Yea, everybody knows Kirk won’t come close to performing like a #1. That’s just delusional conversation.
He was WR2 all year. He consistently out targeted Green.
Some here seem to think that slot is automatically WR3, but only many teams it's not.
He also had a 75% catch rate. Just behind Cooper Kupp and top 5 at WR in the league.
Fun fact. James Conner had a catch rate of 95% which led the league. Through weeks 1-8 Conner only had 26 receiving yards. Through the next 7 (he missed 2) he had 350.
Expect Conner to have a lot more of a role in the passing game next year.
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I think that because we had Nuk and Green - who generally got the top CB matchups.
How many times did Kirk play a game vs the other teams #1 CB or even #2?
I think Kirk picked up CB2 more often than people think. But hard to tell. But he played his first 3 years mostly outside and had respectable numbers, apart from when Kliff really misused him in 2020.
Anyway, good luck to him. He's better than people think but still not worth that money.
Inside the Christian Kirk deal
Last week, Cardinals receiver Christian Kirk said that quarterback Kyler Murray deserves everything he has coming. Kirk, as it turned out, had plenty coming, too.Kirk will sign a four-year, $72 million contract with the Jaguars on Wednesday. Here’s a look inside the deal, per a source with knowledge of the terms.
1. Signing bonus: $20 million.
2. 2022 base salary: $1.5 million, fully guaranteed.
3. 2023 base salary: $15.5 million, fully guaranteed.
4. 2024 roster bonus: $1 million, due on the fifth day of the league year.
5. 2024 base salary: $14.5 million.
6. 2025 base salary: $15.5 million.
7. 2022-25 per-game roster bonuses: $29,412 per game, up to $500,000 per year.
8. Incentives: Up to $3 million per year, based on receiving yards.
The deal includes $37 million fully guaranteed at signing. That’s a great deal for a guy who has never had a 1,000-yard season. In 2021, he had 77 catches for 982 yards and five touchdowns.
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Chopper0080
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I would argue that if you can't be effective out of multiple personnel packages, your aren't a "#2 WR". Also, Kirk quite literally was not one of the two WRs on the field in 2WR personnel packages when all players were healthy.
Kirk can be our 2nd best WR and still not the #2 WR. One is determined by production and the other is determined by personnel packages.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
Some of these WR contracts are probably a PSA that you are better served just drafting them.
reebokalone2001
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This group of weapons does not scare me even in a little bit.
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The proverbial "it only takes one team" to take a liking to ya. Good for Kirk but really head scratching why the Jags ponied up so much. Crazy.
Another round 2 guy coming this year!
I think his ceiling is 1b, but I don’t see him being a weapon that keeps people up at night.
Nonetheless, if I was him, I wouldn’t give a ish what anyone thought about me.
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Insanity.
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Agree. He shouldn't be anywhere close to those guys in respect to $$$. He is a good WR just nowhere near Nuk or Adams.
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Naw Kirk. You left. Not a valley boy anymore.
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Not true… He can still be a valley boy while making the best choice for his families future. Smarts over Heart all day long.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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Bah, cmon. He left for generational wealth. Can’t fault him for that. He grew up in AZ and began his career as a cardinal and never complained or seemed not to give effort. He’s a valley boy.
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Agreed.
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Cardinal Bob
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Here's one to ponder...
If one were to rank all NFL WRs 1 thru 100, would Christian Kirk even make the top 30?
I'm not sure he does.
If one were to rank all NFL WRs 1 thru 100, would Christian Kirk even make the top 30?
I'm not sure he does.
