Larry Foote: Lynch sends wrong message

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Because the kids he is referring to don't look up to either of those guys because they don't come from places like Lynch and Foote come from.

Tom Brady went to the same HS Barry Bonds did. Bonds grew up wealthy because his dad was a player too, Bonds was absolutely IDOLIZED by kids in the ghetto. Those kids didn't care he didn't come from a poor neighborhood and that was used against him over and over after all the steroid stuff came out, what a terrible role model he was for all the young kids coming up.

Foote called out Lynch because he's an easier target, isn't going to respond in the media, the media doesn't like him so they won't challenge what Foote said.
 

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Ummmm, last I knew pot was 100% legal in Washington. Has been for some time now. ;)

Sorry I was thinking California not Seattle but you're right, Lynch is in Seattle more than California now.
 

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Frankly, I think it is hilarious and sad that football players and fans think that football's role in society is so important that we should care what Foote says or Lynch does in my opinion

People think what Kim Kardashian says is important, now THAT is sad.

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Tom Brady went to the same HS Barry Bonds did. Bonds grew up wealthy because his dad was a player too, Bonds was absolutely IDOLIZED by kids in the ghetto. Those kids didn't care he didn't come from a poor neighborhood and that was used against him over and over after all the steroid stuff came out, what a terrible role model he was for all the young kids coming up.

Foote called out Lynch because he's an easier target, isn't going to respond in the media, the media doesn't like him so they won't challenge what Foote said.

Dude your killin me. Do you really know Foote that well to know why he did what he did. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and accept that he said what he said because thats how he feels.
 

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Dude your killin me. Do you really know Foote that well to know why he did what he did. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and accept that he said what he said because thats how he feels.

No, but then all the people hammering on Lynch don't know him at all either and that hasn't stopped them.

I'm giving Lynch the benefit of the doubt and saying he is fully aware of the impact he's having on kids in Oakland, and it's a positive impact.
 

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No, but then all the people hammering on Lynch don't know him at all either and that hasn't stopped them.

I'm giving Lynch the benefit of the doubt and saying he is fully aware of the impact he's having on kids in Oakland, and it's a positive impact.

There is a difference, you purport to know why Foote said what he said which is impossible unless he told you. I don't have to know Lynch to observe his behavior and realize that it is not very admirable to grab your crotch on national TV for no apparent reason. I think Foote took a risk speaking his mind against another player and I wish more people had the courage to stand up for whats right in the face of social pressures from others.
 

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I mean yeah but Lynch was getting arrested multiple times long before grabbing his crotch. Not exactly breaking news that he's never been a role model.
 

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If that's his point he's nuts, he really thinks grabbing his crotch does more harm than his foundation does good?

I like Foote I'm glad he does good things off the field, to me it seems like he just piled on Lynch because it was easy to do.

Russ, I think you are missing Foote's point. He says Lynch is doing great things for the kids with his foundation by donating alot of time and money, but he can't stop there. His on and off the field antics(I don't give a F, I'm not going to follow the rules of my contract. Basically saying screw his employer) is sending the wrong message to kids. It's telling them that they don't have to listen to their boss, teachers, parents. If he cares about getting the kids out of the inner city issues and bettering their lives, say fu to his employer is not that right way of doing it.
 

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There is a difference, you purport to know why Foote said what he said which is impossible unless he told you. I don't have to know Lynch to observe his behavior and realize that it is not very admirable to grab your crotch on national TV for no apparent reason. I think Foote took a risk speaking his mind against another player and I wish more people had the courage to stand up for whats right in the face of social pressures from others.

And Foote purports to know why Lynch does what he does and people here are saying they agree with Foote which means they purport to know why Lynch does what he does. I don't see a difference.

Foote didn't just say the guy behaves badly on tv(which he does) he said he does it because he thinks the hell with authority I'm going to do what I want to and just pay the fine. Ironically after the guy got ripped for a week because he showed up and said the same one line to reporters specifically to AVOID getting fined, because that's what the authority(the NFL) required him to do. He did the exact OPPOSITE of what Foote said, got attacked for doing it(including here), at some point it becomes obvious people just don't like Lynch.

Now if he played for the Cards, I think most people would stop feeling that way, especially if they started getting reports from Cards people about the stuff Lynch actually does to help kids in Oakland,

I agree on the last part again I just wish he'd stood up against something that was actually a lot more important, like a culture of cheating.
 

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Here's how out of whack this whole thing is. ESPN just had a story on Mike and Mike about Lance Armstrong, driving while drunk in Aspen in December, hit several parked cars, fled the scene, and then had his girlfriend take the rap. Police didn't believe the story and eventually the girlfriend admitted she wasn't driving Lance was, and lance said he did it to protect his family because nobody would care if his girlfriend got in trouble but if he did, it's big news.

Mike and Mike then both say it's deplorable, speaks to his lack of character and that's it.

Come back from commercial and they bring in Skip Bayles and Stephen A Smith and then the 4 of them spend the next 5 minutes attacking Marshawn Lynch for not talking to the media. It ends with a 3 minute monologue by Stephen A about how Lynch is harming the lives of millions of kids watching the Super Bowl, and that the fact that Lynch has commercials on during the Super Bowl proves how "morally bankrupt we are as a society."

It was unreal, you have a guy who lied for a decade, cheated, sued everyone who told the truth, finally somewhat came clean and then has his girlfriend take the rap for him in a drunk driving situation, and they can't wait to end that story so they can pile on Lynch?
 

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Russ, I think you are missing Foote's point. He says Lynch is doing great things for the kids with his foundation by donating alot of time and money, but he can't stop there. His on and off the field antics(I don't give a F, I'm not going to follow the rules of my contract. Basically saying screw his employer) is sending the wrong message to kids. It's telling them that they don't have to listen to their boss, teachers, parents. If he cares about getting the kids out of the inner city issues and bettering their lives, say fu to his employer is not that right way of doing it.

No I get that, I'm saying Foote should be more concerned with players who don't do anything to help the communities than players that do.

how come he's not talking about Adrian Peterson and all the harm he's done, or Josh Gordon or any number of athletes who have been in the media reports recently for things they've done.
 

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I mean yeah but Lynch was getting arrested multiple times long before grabbing his crotch. Not exactly breaking news that he's never been a role model.

True and I don't defend him when those things come out. I did the first time, although his issues since then have me believing he probably got away with something the first time around.

If that's what Foote is complaining about fine, but he didn't mention that stuff he mentioned crotch grabbing and refusing to talk to the media.
 

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No, but then all the people hammering on Lynch don't know him at all either and that hasn't stopped them.

I'm giving Lynch the benefit of the doubt and saying he is fully aware of the impact he's having on kids in Oakland, and it's a positive impact.

This is the only issue I have with Lynch's actions. I don't believe athletes should or need to be role models for kids. However, if an athlete takes it upon himself to take on that role and give back, understand your behavior is important. It bothers me that Lynch has taken it upon himself to give back to the youth of Oakland, and then sets this sort of an example of how to behave in competition and as an employee.
 

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That's pretty much 90% of today's society.

LOL, every generation says this about the next one. The greatest generation said it about the boomers. Boomers said it about the Xers. Xers now say it about millenials.
 

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No I get that, I'm saying Foote should be more concerned with players who don't do anything to help the communities than players that do.

how come he's not talking about Adrian Peterson and all the harm he's done, or Josh Gordon or any number of athletes who have been in the media reports recently for things they've done.

Maybe because Lynch was just on one of the worlds biggest stages for the last 2 weeks.

The Peterson thing has been beat to death already (no pun intended). Same with Gordon.
 

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Maybe because Lynch was just on one of the worlds biggest stages for the last 2 weeks.

The Peterson thing has been beat to death already (no pun intended). Same with Gordon.

That was my original point, that he's piling on Lynch. He's attacking the low hanging fruit and right now that's Lynch.
 

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That was my original point, that he's piling on Lynch. He's attacking the low hanging fruit and right now that's Lynch.

Well if you actually listened to the audio of the interview you would hear that he wasn't piling on Lynch. He just sounded disappointed with how Lynch had handled things.
 

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Well if you actually listened to the audio of the interview you would hear that he wasn't piling on Lynch. He just sounded disappointed with how Lynch had handled things.

I have listened to it. The whole thing started because a Pittsburgh radio station asked him about the contrast between Jerome Bettis and Lynch.

He responded and if you listened to the whole thing, the host said they brought it up because Foote had mentioned it to them off the air and they thought it was interesting and asked him to say it on the air.

If they were going to talk about anything related to Bettis it should have been his comment that the Patriots were "known felons" and that players all over the NFL are waiting for the NFL to finally take real action against them for years of cheating.
 

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I have listened to it. The whole thing started because a Pittsburgh radio station asked him about the contrast between Jerome Bettis and Lynch.

He responded and if you listened to the whole thing, the host said they brought it up because Foote had mentioned it to them off the air and they thought it was interesting and asked him to say it on the air.

So you heard the interveiw and came away as he was piling on Lynch? Man, I didn't get that at all. IMO Foote's concern was all about how the inner city kids were viewing Lynch's actions. Almost a plea to Lynch to reconsider what he was doing.
 

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Russ you should just buy Lynch the ring already
 

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Wow, this is getting alot of play. They just played Larry's audio clip and discussing it on Tampa's sports station over here.
 

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