Last great offensive line draft

[BACH]

Back in 2013 there were a ton of blue chip can’t miss Offensive line man.

6 of the top 11 were O-line

Ehhh. No.
2013 draft is known to be the weakest draft in decades and as a result teams drafted O-Line because the group was expected to be solid and it’s considered a Safe Pick.

i remember that most speculated that only Fisher and Joeckel would be top 10 picks in normal drafts.

 

[Finito]

Ehhh. No.
2013 draft is known to be the weakest draft in decades and as a result teams drafted O-Line because the group was expected to be solid and it’s considered a Safe Pick.

i remember that most speculated that only Fisher and Joeckel would be top 10 picks in normal drafts.

exactly they were considered the “safe picks”

 

[Chopper0080]

exactly they were considered the “safe picks”

Because the players around them were viewed as weaker prospects. I would argue that is not the case this year.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

2013 was a pretty weak 1st round overall.

Interesting tidbit.

We have two players on our roster that were #1 picks in 2013...

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Deandre Hopkins and Justin Pugh

This.

The only reason those OL were overvalued was because of the lack of talent at the other premier positions. There was no QBOF, no top flight DE or CB. It was just a bad talent pool.

 

[Chopper0080]

Also, let's compare players...

6'2 - 311 - 33" arms - 5.03 40 - 27" vert - 108" broad - 35 bench
6'7 - 364 - 35+" arms - 5.10 40 - na - na - 23 bench
6'5 - 320 - 34" arms - 4.85 40 - 36.5" vert - 121" broad - 24 bench
6'2 - 317 - 34+" arms - 5.49 40 - na - 110" broad - na
6'4 - 312 - 34+" arms - 5.05 40 - 34.5" vert - 113" broad - na
6'6 - 303 - 35+" arms - 4.72 40 - 34" vert - 118" broad - 28 bench
6'5 - 325 - 33+" arms - na - 26.5 vert - 105" broad - 35 bench

Some of these guys are not like the others.
Cooper
Becton
Wirfs
Warmack
Wills
Lane Johnson
Q Nelson

Also interesting that Nelson and Wirfs 3-cone and 20 yrd shuttle are almost identical.

 

[AZCrazy]

All true, but unrelated.
Chance Warmack's success or lack thereof has nothing at all to do with Tristan Wirfs, Jedrick Wills, or the other guys. False equivalency. That's as daffy as saying Levi Brown didn't work out so we'll never draft an OT ever again.
Levi wasn't perfect either, but we only seem to remember the lowlights. He didn't miss a game for five years and played every offensive snap of the playoffs and Super Bowl for us. Kept immobile Warner upright.

 

[cardncubfan]

Also, let's compare players...

6'2 - 311 - 33" arms - 5.03 40 - 27" vert - 108" broad - 35 bench
6'7 - 364 - 35+" arms - 5.10 40 - na - na - 23 bench
6'5 - 320 - 34" arms - 4.85 40 - 36.5" vert - 121" broad - 24 bench
6'2 - 317 - 34+" arms - 5.49 40 - na - 110" broad - na
6'4 - 312 - 34+" arms - 5.05 40 - 34.5" vert - 113" broad - na
6'6 - 303 - 35+" arms - 4.72 40 - 34" vert - 118" broad - 28 bench
6'5 - 325 - 33+" arms - na - 26.5 vert - 105" broad - 35 bench

Some of these guys are not like the others.
Cooper
Becton
Wirfs
Warmack
Wills
Lane Johnson
Q Nelson

Also interesting that Nelson and Wirfs 3-cone and 20 yrd shuttle are almost identical.

This tells me not to draft a 6'2'' OL.

 

[Finito]

All true, but unrelated.
Chance Warmack's success or lack thereof has nothing at all to do with Tristan Wirfs, Jedrick Wills, or the other guys. False equivalency. That's as daffy as saying Levi Brown didn't work out so we'll never draft an OT ever again.
Levi wasn't perfect either, but we only seem to remember the lowlights. He didn't miss a game for five years and played every offensive snap of the playoffs and Super Bowl for us. Kept immobile Warner upright.

how is it not related. Your taking it to literal

I said Chance Warmack was the best guard I’ve ever seen he’s the guy I wanted in that draft a sure fire lock to be an all pro and he was a bust

I’m saying there’s no sure thing in the NFL draft

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

how is it not related. Your taking it to literal

I said Chance Warmack was the best guard I’ve ever seen he’s the guy I wanted in that draft a sure fire lock to be an all pro and he was a bust

I’m saying there’s no sure thing in the NFL draft

It should be a warning to anyone that is completely sold on anyone in this draft. As much as you may believe your guy in this draft there is a real chance that he will bust. That even goes for me with Lamb and Simmons. That’s why BPA is always so important because the better the prospect the more likely they pan out.

 

[juza76]

how is it not related. Your taking it to literal

I said Chance Warmack was the best guard I’ve ever seen he’s the guy I wanted in that draft a sure fire lock to be an all pro and he was a bust

I’m saying there’s no sure thing in the NFL draft

So u re often wrong regarding top prospects

 

[SoonerLou]

hmm..

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[Chopper0080]

hmm..

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What I find interesting is how so many people are so late on Tristan Wirfs.

He has always been a freak athlete.

He has always played for a college that translates to the NFL.

He has requisite experience and size.

I get it with Mekhi Becton. I spend a lot of time watching college football and following prospects, and I was late on him.

I get it with Wills. He has a lumpy body type and is not a great athlete that jumps off the screen.

I get that people want continue to believe in Andrew Thomas because he has been touted as the best OT over the entire past year.

But, I don't get the Wirfs thing. He is not new and not a flash in the pan.

 

[SoonerLou]

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[Cardsfaninlouky]

but the patriots don’t really draft well. Oh idk maybe having the greatest QB of all time who kept taking team friendly deals helped just a little

what the patriots do is hit in free agency and take other teams cast offs

Yes, they also turn a whole lot of players from the street into FA success stories when it's time to get paid lol. Bottom line, they know how to get the most out of the players they sign. Cooper may be the lone exception?

 

[daves]

Yes, they also turn a whole lot of players from the street into FA success stories when it's time to get paid lol. Bottom line, they know how to get the most out of the players they sign. Cooper may be the lone exception?

They also gave the Cards a 6th for Korey Cunningham, and only got 59 snaps out of him this year.

...dave

 

[BritCard]

Trying to talk down the O line class won't make it real