Make trade to save season??

[pokerface]

So now Ayton sprains his ankle which 'could' take a long time to heal.

Bookers forearm...day to day

Baines... on again off again

Rubio...pffft...can he last?


So how bad do we want to make the playoffs? We have draft chips to play (2 firsts this year and next?) Plus young guys to deal. I like Oubre and Bridges but I'd entertain offers. Baines could be gone after this season... Ayton is not a traditional frontcourt player but he does grab boards.

We need a pf and quality backup pg...we need depth.

 

[Carolinacacti]

I would have no problem
Trading any player on this team

 

[Ronin]

I dunno who you trade for though? Kevin Love?

 

[Hoop Head]

So how bad do we want to make the playoffs? We have draft chips to play (2 firsts this year and next?) Plus young guys to deal. I like Oubre and Bridges but I'd entertain offers. Baines could be gone after this season... Ayton is not a traditional frontcourt player but he does grab boards.

Just to make sure I understand, you're saying we have this year's 1st and the following year's 1st, correct? We're not owed any picks by anyone and actually owe our 2nd round picks to Memphis as part of the Jackson for Carter deal.

The reason I ask is Bright Side of the Sun has been pushing the idea we still have the Bucks pick (traded for Jerome & Baynes) as well as the Heat pick (traded for Bridges). They've posted a few articles mentioning those as trade chips, even in their Kevin Love articles last week those were mentioned.

I say stand pat unless someone really wants Tyler Johnson. I'd listen to offers for Johnson, Okobo, and Carter. I'd even include Jerome in that bunch but I doubt he has more value than any of those other 3. I wouldn't trade Oubre right now, he's been very clutch and his play in the final 2 minutes of close games helps make up for some of the boneheaded stuff he does in the first 46 minutes.

Bridges is someone that needs to be retained. He's the best perimeter defender on the team on a very affordable salary and we control his future. If Oubre demands too much money after next year, we have his replacement ready to go. I would only include Bridges in a deal for an All-Star type player.

If Orlando would work a deal for Bridges, Saric, and Tyler for Aaron Gordon and Terrance Ross, I'd jump on that. I think that might be a fair trade all around also. Gordon's had a down year. They could use a true stretch 4 like Saric to open things up more for Isaac and Vuvecic. Bridges gives them a good young wing to pair with Isaac and Fultz, and Bamba as their core. Terrence Ross is a scoring wing who could play Bridges role for us but not as good defensively but he offers more offensively. He's owed more money, which is a reason they might look to move him, but he'd able provide a scoring punch off the bench behind Book and Oubre. Gordon replaces Saric, of course. I'd include Carter in that deal also since word is they're looking to move Augustine as an expiring vet since Fultz has looked good this year. Carter or Okobo could play backup to him for cheap.

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[pokerface]

Just to make sure I understand, you're saying we have this year's 1st and the following year's 1st, correct? We're not owed any picks by anyone and actually owe our 2nd round picks to Memphis as part of the Jackson for Carter deal.

The reason I ask is Bright Side of the Sun has been pushing the idea we still have the Bucks pick (traded for Jerome & Baynes) as well as the Heat pick (traded for Bridges). They've posted a few articles mentioning those as trade chips, even in their Kevin Love articles last week those were mentioned.

I say stand pat unless someone really wants Tyler Johnson. I'd listen to offers for Johnson, Okobo, and Carter. I'd even include Jerome in that bunch but I doubt he has more value than any of those other 3. I wouldn't trade Oubre right now, he's been very clutch and his play in the final 2 minutes of close games helps make up for some of the boneheaded stuff he does in the first 46 minutes.

Bridges is someone that needs to be retained. He's the best perimeter defender on the team on a very affordable salary and we control his future. If Oubre demands too much money after next year, we have his replacement ready to go. I would only include Bridges in a deal for an All-Star type player.

If Orlando would work a deal for Bridges, Saric, and Tyler for Aaron Gordon and Terrance Ross, I'd jump on that. I think that might be a fair trade all around also. Gordon's had a down year. They could use a true stretch 4 like Saric to open things up more for Isaac and Vuvecic. Bridges gives them a good young wing to pair with Isaac and Fultz, and Bamba as their core. Terrence Ross is a scoring wing who could play Bridges role for us but not as good defensively but he offers more offensively. He's owed more money, which is a reason they might look to move him, but he'd able provide a scoring punch off the bench behind Book and Oubre. Gordon replaces Saric, of course. I'd include Carter in that deal also since word is they're looking to move Augustine as an expiring vet since Fultz has looked good this year. Carter or Okobo could play backup to him for cheap.

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Yeah I read the same thing that we had two first rounders for the next couple years (two in each draft) but was unsure that's why the question mark. If that's the case I'm definitely on board for using them to get talent now.

 

[pokerface]

I dunno who you trade for though? Kevin Love?

I read a article a couple weeks ago (couldnt find it) but they mention Griffen, Love, Aldridge and others. But the number one target they thought we should go after is Markkanen. He fits our time line...He'd be one I'm interested in.

 

[Hoop Head]

Yeah I read the same thing that we had two first rounders for the next couple years (two in each draft) but was unsure that's why the question mark. If that's the case I'm definitely on board for using them to get talent now.

If we had extra picks then I'd be all for it but unfortunately we don't. I saw another poster make that same mistake last week because of how they wrote their article. I know they're a fan site but that's no excuse to push articles with such incorrect information.

 

[Hoop Head]

When I was playing with ESPN's trade machine it appears Oubre can't be dealt until January 14th because he signed so late in the offseason. That doesn't rule out a trade but it might even be better timing. By then we should have had a chance to see everyone healthy together and know if the playoffs are a pipedream or realistic.

Something else to keep in mind. Utah entered January with a losing record 2 years ago and went on a tear to get into playoff position. It took them time to get everyone healthy and develop chemistry before they were able to make some noise that year. The Jazz were 19-28 when they started rolling and finished their season 48-34. That's a hell of a run and they even got out of the 1st round that season. They did that with Gobert only playing in 56 games, with a rookie SG in Donovan Mitchell, after losing their star in Gordon Hayward, and with a brand new PG there, the same guy who was brought in as the Suns new PG this season, Rubio. They didn't make a big trade during the season to pull that off either.

I know odds are against it but the odds were against the Suns to start the season also.

 

[devilalum]

Who cares?

I can’t even see the word Suns right now without throwing up a little in my mouth.


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[Mainstreet]

Just to make sure I understand, you're saying we have this year's 1st and the following year's 1st, correct? We're not owed any picks by anyone and actually owe our 2nd round picks to Memphis as part of the Jackson for Carter deal.

The reason I ask is Bright Side of the Sun has been pushing the idea we still have the Bucks pick (traded for Jerome & Baynes) as well as the Heat pick (traded for Bridges). They've posted a few articles mentioning those as trade chips, even in their Kevin Love articles last week those were mentioned.

I say stand pat unless someone really wants Tyler Johnson. I'd listen to offers for Johnson, Okobo, and Carter. I'd even include Jerome in that bunch but I doubt he has more value than any of those other 3. I wouldn't trade Oubre right now, he's been very clutch and his play in the final 2 minutes of close games helps make up for some of the boneheaded stuff he does in the first 46 minutes.

Bridges is someone that needs to be retained. He's the best perimeter defender on the team on a very affordable salary and we control his future. If Oubre demands too much money after next year, we have his replacement ready to go. I would only include Bridges in a deal for an All-Star type player.

If Orlando would work a deal for Bridges, Saric, and Tyler for Aaron Gordon and Terrance Ross, I'd jump on that. I think that might be a fair trade all around also. Gordon's had a down year. They could use a true stretch 4 like Saric to open things up more for Isaac and Vuvecic. Bridges gives them a good young wing to pair with Isaac and Fultz, and Bamba as their core. Terrence Ross is a scoring wing who could play Bridges role for us but not as good defensively but he offers more offensively. He's owed more money, which is a reason they might look to move him, but he'd able provide a scoring punch off the bench behind Book and Oubre. Gordon replaces Saric, of course. I'd include Carter in that deal also since word is they're looking to move Augustine as an expiring vet since Fultz has looked good this year. Carter or Okobo could play backup to him for cheap.

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I think the Magic would minimally want a first round pick in the above trade.

What about a trade with the Knicks for Randle? Before the Suns signed Oubre I thought he was a good secondary target.

 

[JCSunsfan]

There is no trade to be made that could save the season.

Yawn. I think I will wake up when they decide to take the band-aids off their owies.

 

[overseascardfan]

Markkanen, Sabonis or Randle would be my preferences. I’d keep Bridges out of any deal. If Booker is going to let a forearm bruise keep him out I feel this gives Bridges a shot to develop.

AZ Central had an article the other day about PHX being a rumored landing spot for Jrue Holiday. Maybe concerns about Rubio’s durability are legit.

 

[CRC83]

According to Bill Simmons latest article he thinks we should be shopping Ayton. While I have concerns about Ayton, I would like to see more of him before making a deal...unless it was too good to pass up, which won’t happen.

 

[Mainstreet]

There is no trade to be made that could save the season.

Yawn. I think I will wake up when they decide to take the band-aids off their owies.

I don't think the Suns should do a trade to save the season so much as looking for the right trade that can help the team long term. Tyler's Johnson's contract can help make the trade for larger salaried player happen if a team decides to sell.

 

[TJ]

According to Bill Simmons latest article he thinks we should be shopping Ayton. While I have concerns about Ayton, I would like to see more of him before making a deal...unless it was too good to pass up, which won’t happen.

Simmons also said that we should’ve traded Booker. He has a weird irrational disdain for Phoenix.
I think it stems from when Book dropped 70 on his Celtics

 

[TJ]

There is no “save the season” trade that’ll fix the season. The two best players on the team are injured. Get them healthy and available at the same time

 

[Mainstreet]

Lots of trade chatter connecting the Suns to Kevin Love.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...-phoenix-suns-cleveland-cavaliers/2708946001/

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[1Sun]

Markkanen, Sabonis or Randle would be my preferences. I’d keep Bridges out of any deal. If Booker is going to let a forearm bruise keep him out I feel this gives Bridges a shot to develop.

AZ Central had an article the other day about PHX being a rumored landing spot for Jrue Holiday. Maybe concerns about Rubio’s durability are legit.

I think Bridges needs to be in any deal. Booker, Ayton, Oubre and Rubio are going nowhere. Carter, Okobo, Cam, Diallo and Ty Jerome have zero trade value. Kaminsky has negative trade value. Baynes, Saric and Tyler are expiring.

And at this point it is pretty darn clear that Bridges will never develop the ability on offense to stick in the NBA as anything other than a defensive specialist (a luxury we cannot afford, given what we need), so might as well see if a team less in need of scoring is desperate enough for a defensive specialist. Given that we are likely looking at another Top 10 draft pick, even with a trade to improve us long term, I would rather trade Bridges than that.

At this point, Booker, Ayton and possibly Oubre (if he can mature and is willing to commit here longer than this season and next) are the only ones on the roster that look like they can be future building blocks for us. Rubio is a stop-gap until we find our point guard of the future, who is not currently on the roster. And literally the entire rest of the roster needs a serious upgrade.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lots of trade chatter connecting the Suns to Kevin Love.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...-phoenix-suns-cleveland-cavaliers/2708946001/

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this would be absolutely idiotic. I could see McD/Sarver doing something this stupid but I don't believe that James Jones has reached that level of distrust at all yet.

 

[Mainstreet]

this would be absolutely idiotic. I could see McD/Sarver doing something this stupid but I don't believe that James Jones has reached that level of distrust at all yet.

It's hard to see the Suns paying Kevin Love this much money for sure.

 

[Western Font]

Simmons also said that we should’ve traded Booker. He has a weird irrational disdain for Phoenix.
I think it stems from when Book dropped 70 on his Celtics

He dislikes Sarver so it becomes easy to pick at flaws and any perceived softness. I think that’s generally fair, but don’t see the rationale behind trading Booker or shopping Ayton now.

 

[1Sun]

Lots of trade chatter connecting the Suns to Kevin Love.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...-phoenix-suns-cleveland-cavaliers/2708946001/

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That would be another huge mistake.

 

[1Sun]

this would be absolutely idiotic. I could see McD/Sarver doing something this stupid but I don't believe that James Jones has reached that level of distrust at all yet.

In my opinion, draft night would at least suggest the possibility...

 

[CRC83]

Simmons also said that we should’ve traded Booker. He has a weird irrational disdain for Phoenix.
I think it stems from when Book dropped 70 on his Celtics

Yeah I’m not a fan of Simmons.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Lots of trade chatter connecting the Suns to Kevin Love.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...-phoenix-suns-cleveland-cavaliers/2708946001/

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Noooooooooo