Mike Budenholzer - Officially Suns new Head Coach - NOW FIRED on 4/14/2025

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so many inexplicable moves and banishments

Mat Ishbia needs to hire a GM beyond reproach to clean up this mess and give him full authority to run the franchise.

It's time for this dog and pony show to end.
 

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1) Pull up the Brinks truck to get a top-tier GM, i.e. Bob Myers
2) If #1 happens, then I think it's entirely possible Bud keeps his job

At some point, the money is going to matter to Ishbia and we are talking about two high-profile, EXPENSIVE front office positions.

I agree, we should try to blow Bob Myers away with an offer, but if you're Bob Myers... why on earth do you take this job? The hole is cavernous.

A new GM can rip it down to the studs only to find a sink hole underneath.
 

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I think Bud will be made GM. He wasn't fire for a reason but it's clear there's a real issue. Let him attempt to salvage this mess. He did well in Atlanta as GM & Coach
 

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I agree, we should try to blow Bob Myers away with an offer, but if you're Bob Myers... why on earth do you take this job? The hole is cavernous.

A new GM can rip it down to the studs only to find a sink hole underneath.
These guys have egos. It's like giving a painter a blank canvas and say paint what you want. Plus the paycheck. The paycheck really really helps. ;)
 

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From Bleacher Report article on Coach Bud being let go:

Bradley Beal is signed for two more seasons and has shown he's perfectly happy to utilize his no-trade clause. There's no salary cap space to set aside for free agents.

The fact people are arguing the Suns should trade Devin Booker, their all-time leading scorer who's in the prime of his career, illustrates how bleak their short- and long-term outlook both are.

Like Vogel and Budenholzer, whoever takes over this team next year may struggle to avoid an outcome that falls well below the expectations Ishbia originally set when he first greenlit the Durant trade.
 

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I really don't want to see the Suns hire Mike Malone but I have a bad feeling. This is far beyond a coaching issue.
 

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If Willie Green is let go by the Pelicans then he would move to the top of my wish list.

I like Willie Green, but the Suns played even better defense the season after he left in 2021-22.

Maybe it carried over, I don't know.
 

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He basically outcoached all the coaches we have since he left.

If only the Suns didn't disintegrate in game 7 of the Western Conference Semifinals against Dallas in 2021-22. The coaching was fine until then. The Suns won 64 games that season.

What followed was so much worse.

Can Willie Green recapture the Suns culture? It's hard to know, but the Suns need to allow for players that don't fit neatly into a mold.
 

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So Bud as GM and a new coach? I want a new GM to have a say in keeping Bud or replacing him with someone else. James Jones can be the spokesperson for food and beverage at the stadion.
 

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His (James Jones) contract should end exactly when the Suns season is over and that is now, so he should not check into work this week.

I wonder what Booker and KD are doing. Just chillin, finally?
 

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So Bud as GM and a new coach? I want a new GM to have a say in keeping Bud or replacing him with someone else. James Jones can be the spokesperson for food and beverage at the stadion.
Whoever they hire, he/she will just be the fall guy for Ishbia. That’s the guy that ruined this team.
 
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It felt like it was personal, what Bud has been doing to the Suns.

that's what im just tired of - a lot of our talent wasted away on the bench here due to random banishments - killed the whole vibe of this team because nobody knew what bud would do from game to game

morris gets banished for months - comes in and goes like 6 for 6 from 3 only to stay banished directly after - don't get me started on bol bol or the gauchos - instead of sticking with line ups and letting players build familiarity they just got ghosted

i know it sucks going thru coaches the way we are but bud is not the one - if kd is a coach killer bud for damn sure is a player killer straight up
 
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Nationally this is not playing well. They are bagging on the Suns right now as being a bad place for job stability if you want to coach in the NBA even if you are a former NBA champ.
 
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