Monday Musings: Song Medley for Week 8

Mitch

Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Posts
13,405
Reaction score
2,982
Location
Wrentham, MA
1. Start Me Up.

Despite urging his offense for 10 days to get off the blocks in a hurry, the offense once again was flat as a flounder. Mistakes piled on top of mistakes, exacerbated to the hilt by Carson Palmer's interception.

Note: While Palmer should not have thrown that pass, obviously, you always teach your WRs that when your QB is scrambling that you come back hard to the ball---and if you are getting overplayed underneath, you break long. Andre Roberts stood in cement on the throw which made for easy pickings by Asante Samuel. Roberts remains an enigma this year---he's really not asserting himself and that is cause for concern.

2. Stand By Me.

Be honest. How many of you were begging for BA to take Palmer out after the interception? After the past couple of weeks I had already seen enough of Palmer. So when he threw up that interception, I was so irate that I couldn't stand the thought of Palmer playing another snap.

Whatever BA and Tom Moore said to Palmer---man, this time around their patience paid off big-time. BA and Moore aren't going to give Palmer the Whisenhunt/DA or the Whisenhunt/Skelton treatment---they just aren't wired that way---and I admire this to no end. BA and Moore have had the patience of Job the past month and a half---but they have never lost faith---and yesterday was their just reward.

Palmer not only started making good throws on time and on the money---one of the smartest things he did was take a sack here and there and not throw the ball into any more tight coverages. And with the way the Cardinals' defense is playing---the offense has to be smart.

3. Teddy or Not Here I Come.

One could make a good argument that Teddy Williams' 51 yard catch was the turning point in the game. First of all, it was so unexpected. Secondly, whenever you get a defense worrying about you beating them deep, it keeps the whole secondary honest. A couple play previously, the Falcons had to worry about speedy Patrick Peterson in the lineup---and he sucked the whole secondary up on the hitch screen to him---then BA rolled the dice on the go route to Williams. Credit the offensive line for blocking both of those plays to near perfection.

4. Whipping Post.

Larry Fitzgerald's skinny post behind the Falcon's goal line zone was a thing of beauty. That's a play that the Cardinals should have been running for Fitz on a regular basis in the red zone, as a counter for the corner fades they throw his way.

Then---on the other side of the ball---what a ferocious whipping the defense put on Matt Ryan, Stephen Jackson and the Falcon offense. You could see the ferocity in the players' eyes. Man, did they get after it---all 11 players virtually every snap.

5. Kind of a Drag.

The one weakness the Falcons exposed on the Cardinal defense was in defensing the short and medium drag passes. Drew Davis wasn't even covered on a number of plays. Not sure what was up there.

Todd Bowles got away too with playing Tony Gonzalez by committee---because Jeraud Powers should never, I repeat never be assigned to cover a TE like Tony Gonzalez. But what Bowles was counting on and what he was successful in doing was in assigning Patrick Peterson to cover Gonzalez n the first play and on several other plays, Bowles felt that Matt Ryan wouldn't look so often in Gonzalez's direction.

6. Sir Duke.

Andre Ellington turned in one of the smoothest and jazziest rushing performances in recent memory. The thing about him which is so uncanny for a diminutive rookie is his sheer combination of body control, vision, elusiveness and jack-rabbit speed. His poise, slipperiness and cannon-like burst on the botched up inside power play was textbook. Breathtakingly textbook.

Talk about quickness---this young man can turn out the light and be in bed before it's dark. How about on the one little fumble he had? Did you see how quick he was back to the ball?

Ellington's speed is exactly what this offense has needed---and what we are seeing is that it's one thing to be fast, but to know at his young age how to harness that speed until he turns it on is a rare and practically un-coachable ability.

Stepfan Taylor made his impact in an entirely different way. How about the lick he laid on safety William Moore? Moore is no slouch---and it was great to hear safety John Lynch rave about Taylor's toughness. Lynch knows how to appreciate such a quality in a RB, especially a young RB who is just trying to earn his stripes.

7. I Know Him So Well.

Bradley Sowell. What a game he had yesterday! What a game! How about the double blocks he threw springing Ellington around the corner? How about holding his own on the edge the entire afternoon---sometimes with a little help from the RB---but, even from Carson Palmer who is finally stepping sometimes inside the outside rush, as he did on a dart he threw to Michael Floyd for a nice first down.

Sowell is a physical player and he works tenaciously. This game was a very good step in the right direction for him. Who knows? What a boon it would be if he keeps playing like this!

His teammate at Ole Miss, Bobbie Massey, played well in his first action of the season. Credit Harold Goodwin and BA for platooning him in there. Eric Winston played hard as well. Osi got the better of him a couple of times---but fortunately got flagged for roughing on one of them. But, overall, the o-line had a very good game.

8. Crosstown Traffic.

As John Lynch so rightly pointed out, Fitz and Floyd the past couple of weeks have been making stellar blocks and sealing their men either inside or out of the play. That's the kind of leadership this offense has needed. The results yesterday were outstanding. Every block counts. Credit Darryl Drake for helping them hone their technique---best technique displayed in quite a while. You always try to teach blockers to sustain their blocks by riding the player the way his momentum is carrying him---and ride him out of the play, which is exactly what they are doing. With a good angle and riding technique you don't need to hold.

9. Southern Cross.

We got the Crosby (Carolina), Stills (Tampa Bay) and Nash (Atlanta)---but couldn't get the Neil Young (New Orleans)---and I must say, when I saw that we were playing all four NFC South teams in the first half of the season, I was hoping we could get a split. Going 3-1 versus those teams is a better feat than people think. Yes, the Bucs have struggled to win---but that is one talented football team---and the Falcons have been hurt at the WR position, but this a team that was in the NFC Championship game last year.

10. Celebrate Good Times Come On!:newcards:

That was some kind of fun yesterday. Quite frankly, it would have been hard for any of us to expect to see what we saw in this game. I don't know about you, but I can't seem to wipe this wry little grin off my face today. That performance was some kind of impressive.

And let's not forget, the entire FOX crew (JB, Terry, Howie, Strahan and Jimmy) picked Atlanta. In your FACE FOX crew! Same way our boys were with Matt Ryan all afternoon! We put a "badgering" on those Falcons! And it is so SWEET---to quote the oldie goldie Herb Alpert song, like "A Taste of Honey!"

Just for Shiggs and Gittles---without Googling---how many of the bands/song artists of the following songs can you come up with?

1. Start Me Up
2. Stand By Me
3. Ready or Not Here I Come
4. Whipping Post
5. Kind of a Drag
6. Sir Duke
7. I Know Him So Well
8. Crosstown Traffic
9. Southern Cross---Crosby, Stills and Nash (gave it away)
10. Celebrate Good Times
11. A Taste of Honey---Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass:band:
 
Last edited:

TRW

ASFN Addict
Joined
Jan 13, 2003
Posts
7,810
Reaction score
7,489
Location
Avondale, AZ
As always, nice write up Mitch.

I didn't get to see the game but when I heard on the postgame show they had won I was a bit surprised. As you said the Falcons have been down but I sure thought this game may be the one they just explode on someone, that someone being the Cards.

But, obviously, that didn't happen and the Cards came through. Easier stretch coming up also. But, as Damien Anderson on the postgame show says ad nauseum "This is the National Football League" so anything can happen.
 
Joined
Aug 7, 2008
Posts
10,433
Reaction score
7,373
Location
Chandler
1. Start Me Up.

Despite urging his offense for 10 days to get off the blocks in a hurry, the offense once again was flat as a flounder. Mistakes piled on top of mistakes, exacerbated to the hilt by Carson Palmer's interception.

Note: While Palmer should not have thrown that pass, obviously, you always teach your WRs that when your QB is scrambling that you come back hard to the ball---and if you are getting overplayed underneath, you break long. Andre Roberts stood in cement on the throw which made for easy pickings by Asante Samuel. Roberts remains an enigma this year---he's really not asserting himself and that is cause for concern.

2. Stand By Me.

Be honest. How many of you were begging for BA to take Palmer out after the interception? After the past couple of weeks I had already seen enough of Palmer. So when he threw up that interception, I was so irate that I couldn't stand the thought of Palmer playing another snap.

Whatever BA and Tom Moore said to Palmer---man, this time around their patience paid off big-time. BA and Moore aren't going to give Palmer the Whisenhunt/DA or the Whisenhunt/Skelton treatment---they just aren't wired that way---and I admire this to no end. BA and Moore have had the patience of Job the past month and a half---but they have never lost faith---and yesterday was their just reward.

Palmer not only started making good throws on time and on the money---one of the smartest things he did was take a sack here and there and not throw the ball into any more tight coverages. And with the way the Cardinals' defense is playing---the offense has to be smart.

3. Teddy or Not Here I Come.

One could make a good argument that Teddy Williams' 51 yard catch was the turning point in the game. First of all, it was so unexpected. Secondly, whenever you get a defense worrying about you beating them deep, it keeps the whole secondary honest. A couple play previously, the Falcons had to worry about speedy Patrick Peterson in the lineup---and he sucked the whole secondary up on the hitch screen to him---then BA rolled the dice on the go route to Williams. Credit the offensive line for blocking both of those plays to near perfection.

4. Whipping Post.

Larry Fitzgerald's skinny post behind the Falcon's goal line zone was a thing of beauty. That's a play that the Cardinals should have been running for Fitz on a regular basis in the red zone, as a counter for the corner fades they throw his way.

Then---on the other side of the ball---what a ferocious whipping the defense put on Matt Ryan, Stephen Jackson and the Falcon offense. You could see the ferocity in the players' eyes. Man, did they get after it---all 11 players virtually every snap.

5. Kind of a Drag.

The one weakness the Falcons exposed on the Cardinal defense was in defensing the short and medium drag passes. Drew Davis wasn't even covered on a number of plays. Not sure what was up there.

Todd Bowles got away too with playing Tony Gonzalez by committee---because Jeraud Powers should never, I repeat never be assigned to cover a TE like Tony Gonzalez. But what Bowles was counting on and what he was successful in doing was in assigning Patrick Peterson to cover Gonzalez n the first play and on several other plays, Bowles felt that Matt Ryan wouldn't look so often in Gonzalez's direction.

6. Sir Duke.

Andre Ellington turned in one of the smoothest and jazziest rushing performances in recent memory. The thing about him which is so uncanny for a diminutive rookie is his sheer combination of body control, vision, elusiveness and jack-rabbit speed. His poise, slipperiness and cannon-like burst on the botched up inside power play was textbook. Breathtakingly textbook.

Talk about quickness---this young man can turn out the light and be in bed before it's dark. How about on the one little fumble he had? Did you see how quick he was back to the ball?

Ellington's speed is exactly what this offense has needed---and what we are seeing is that it's one thing to be fast, but to know at his young age how to harness that speed until he turns it on is a rare and practically un-coachable ability.

Stepfan Taylor made his impact in an entirely different way. How about the lick he laid on safety William Moore? Moore is no slouch---and it was great to hear safety John Lynch rave about Taylor's toughness. Lynch knows how to appreciate such a quality in a RB, especially a young RB who is just trying to earn his stripes.

7. I Know Him So Well.

Bradley Sowell. What a game he had yesterday! What a game! How about the double blocks he threw springing Ellington around the corner? How about holding his own on the edge the entire afternoon---sometimes with a little help from the RB---but, even from Carson Palmer who is finally stepping sometimes inside the outside rush, as he did on a dart he threw to Michael Floyd for a nice first down.

Sowell is a physical player and he works tenaciously. This game was a very good step in the right direction for him. Who knows? What a boon it would be if he keeps playing like this!

His teammate at Ole Miss, Bobbie Massey, played well in his first action of the season. Credit Harold Goodwin and BA for platooning him in there. Eric Winston played hard as well. Osi got the better of him a couple of times---but fortunately got flagged for roughing on one of them. But, overall, the o-line had a very good game.

8. Crosstown Traffic.

As John Lynch so rightly pointed out, Fitz and Floyd the past couple of weeks have been making stellar blocks and sealing their men either inside or out of the play. That's the kind of leadership this offense has needed. The results yesterday were outstanding. Every block counts. Credit Darryl Drake for helping them hone their technique---best technique displayed in quite a while. You always try to teach blockers to sustain their blocks by riding the player the way his momentum is carrying him---and ride him out of the play, which is exactly what they are doing. With a good angle and riding technique you don't need to hold.

9. Southern Cross.

We got the Crosby (Carolina), Stills (Tampa Bay) and Nash (Atlanta)---but couldn't get the Neil Young (New Orleans)---and I must say, when I saw that we were playing all four NFC South teams in the first half of the season, I was hoping we could get a split. Going 3-1 versus those teams is a better feat than people think. Yes, the Bucs have struggled to win---but that is one talented football team---and the Falcons have been hurt at the WR position, but this a team that was in the NFC Championship game last year.

10. Celebrate Good Times Come On!:newcards:

That was some kind of fun yesterday. Quite frankly, it would have been hard for any of us to expect to see what we saw in this game. I don't know about you, but I can't seem to wipe this wry little grin off my face today. That performance was some kind of impressive.

And let's not forget, the entire FOX crew (JB, Terry, Howie, Strahan and Jimmy) picked Atlanta. In your FACE FOX crew! Same way our boys were with Matt Ryan all afternoon! We put a "badgering" on those Falcons! And it is so SWEET---to quote the oldie goldie Herb Alpert song, like "A Taste of Honey!"

Just for Shiggs and Gittles---without Googling---how many of the bands/song artists of the following songs can you come up with?

1. Start Me Up
2. Stand By Me
3. Ready or Not Here I Come
4. Whipping Post
5. Kind of a Drag
6. Sir Duke
7. I Know Him So Well
8. Crosstown Traffic
9. Southern Cross---Crosby, Stills and Nash (gave it away)
10. Celebrate Good Times
11. A Taste of Honey---Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass:band:

Nice write up Mitch. I enjoyed it. Btw, I got 7 of 10.
 

JeffGollin

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
20,472
Reaction score
3,056
Location
Holmdel, NJ
I nominate:

- Rip it Up (Little Richard) dedicated to the entire defense

- Chica Boom! (Loyd Glenn) dedicated to big hits by the Honey Badger

- Bye Bye Blackbird (Miles Davis) a Falcon is a black bird, no?

- Things Ain't the Way They Used to Be (Duke Ellington) They sure ain't

- You Can't Judge a (Play) Book by it's Cover (Muddy Waters)

- All the Way (Sinatra) dedicated to Ellington's 80 yarder

- The Wall (Pink Floyd) dedicated to the Cardinal Front 7.

- It Ain't Necessarily So (Gershwin) dedicated to a skeptical national media.

- Blowin' the Blues Away (Horace Silver) dedicated to the entire Cardinal team

- Birdland (Zawinal/Manhattan Transfer) dedicated to U of P Stadium
 
Last edited:

Russ Smith

The Original Whizzinator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
87,553
Reaction score
38,797
With respect to the Whisenhunt treatment of Skelton, you don't think it's just possible that Arians having a QB who's thrown for over 31,000 yards in his NFL career is thinking he has SOME reason to believe Palmer will play better?

There's a huge difference between what Skelton had done in his brief career and what Palmer has, I don't think ANY NFL coach would have as much patience with Skelton as Arians has with Palmer.

And I think what's happened to him since he left Arizona sort of confirmed that Whiz wasn't alone on that.

Palmer has been awful but he has a body of work that at least suggests he might be able to play better.
 

Cardiac

ASFN Icon
Joined
Jul 21, 2002
Posts
12,061
Reaction score
3,327
Great post Mitch, very fun and insightful read.

Feels great to get inside a top QB's head and make him look like SCUD.

Those drag passes did hurt but the great thing is that I have faith in Bowles to come up with an answer for those as well.

IMO the thing that helped the most was the Duke making things happen in the run game. Finally we have a RB who can make something big out of nothing. So while the Oline wasn't doing a great job their confidence had to be boosted by the Duke's results. Of course this puts the Falcons D on their heels and helps the Oline in pass protection as well.

I agree that Roberts should have made a better play on the ball that was picked and although I have been a strong supporter of his I'm starting to get concerned.

Another point that you have made but didn't expound on it much in this post is the need for speed at the WR position, especially in BA's offense. It will be interesting to see how much playing time Williams and Golden get when Golden is healthy.
 

football karma

Michael snuggles the cap space
Joined
Jul 22, 2002
Posts
15,236
Reaction score
14,266
With respect to the Whisenhunt treatment of Skelton, you don't think it's just possible that Arians having a QB who's thrown for over 31,000 yards in his NFL career is thinking he has SOME reason to believe Palmer will play better?

There's a huge difference between what Skelton had done in his brief career and what Palmer has, I don't think ANY NFL coach would have as much patience with Skelton as Arians has with Palmer.

And I think what's happened to him since he left Arizona sort of confirmed that Whiz wasn't alone on that.

Palmer has been awful but he has a body of work that at least suggests he might be able to play better.

Yep. Just give me historical average Carson Palmer, and this team goes at least 5-3 over the back half.
 

ajcardfan

I see you.
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
38,473
Reaction score
25,373
With respect to the Whisenhunt treatment of Skelton, you don't think it's just possible that Arians having a QB who's thrown for over 31,000 yards in his NFL career is thinking he has SOME reason to believe Palmer will play better?

There's a huge difference between what Skelton had done in his brief career and what Palmer has, I don't think ANY NFL coach would have as much patience with Skelton as Arians has with Palmer.

And I think what's happened to him since he left Arizona sort of confirmed that Whiz wasn't alone on that.

Palmer has been awful but he has a body of work that at least suggests he might be able to play better.

Yeah, Russ. And Palmer probably wasn't screwing up basic calls of the game plan like Skelton was in the Atlanta game last year. The game where Skelton called incorrect audibles and lined up receivers in the wrong spot.

No doubt Arians would've benched Palmer as well, if he clearly didn't understand the gameplan.
 

Totally_Red

Air Raid Warning!
Joined
Apr 26, 2005
Posts
8,880
Reaction score
4,798
Location
Iowa
Nice post! I like our chances against Houston with time to heal up a relatively healthy roster. The whole key to beating the Texans will be handling J.J. Watt and Antonio Smith IMO. That's easier said than done.
 

BullheadCardFan

Go for it
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2005
Posts
63,125
Reaction score
28,342
Location
Bullhead City, AZ
What a difference a week makes.
It sure does.

Nice post! I like our chances against Houston with time to heal up a relatively healthy roster. The whole key to beating the Texans will be handling J.J. Watt and Antonio Smith IMO. That's easier said than done.
Got to give some help to the OT's and slow those 2 down. Any kind of pressure or getting hit will get CP off his game right away.
 

D-Dogg

A Whole New World
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2003
Posts
44,920
Reaction score
877
Location
In The End Zone
The most interesting cover of Gonzales was when they moved over Dwash to cover him at the line, who gave him a nice bump and released him to a safety behind him. Completely took him out of the play.

Seems like Bowles is experimenting in ways to shore up this massive weakness we have at covering elite/strong TEs.
 

Russ Smith

The Original Whizzinator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
87,553
Reaction score
38,797
Yeah, Russ. And Palmer probably wasn't screwing up basic calls of the game plan like Skelton was in the Atlanta game last year. The game where Skelton called incorrect audibles and lined up receivers in the wrong spot.

No doubt Arians would've benched Palmer as well, if he clearly didn't understand the gameplan.

Exactly. I would have benched Palmer 2-3 times already this year myself, but I can see why Arians has more faith in him than Whiz had in Skelton, they're completely different players. One has never done anything at the NFL level, the other has, admittedly he's on the downside though.

If SKelton had been our QB this year and got off to the same start Palmer did, he'd have already been benched, probably about week 4 or 5. Arians is hoping Palmer settles down and performs more like his career norm.
 

Catfish

Registered
Joined
Aug 14, 2006
Posts
4,551
Reaction score
64
Good stuff Mitch. I was out of town for a few days, and when I came back, my computer had crashed. Just got it up Tuesday evening. Did not get to see the game, but did listen to it on the radio. Nice to go into the bye week at 4-4. Chance to get well, and to learn a little more along the way. Also a chance to pad the W-L record. More good stuff.
 
OP
OP
Mitch

Mitch

Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Posts
13,405
Reaction score
2,982
Location
Wrentham, MA
Good stuff Mitch. I was out of town for a few days, and when I came back, my computer had crashed. Just got it up Tuesday evening. Did not get to see the game, but did listen to it on the radio. Nice to go into the bye week at 4-4. Chance to get well, and to learn a little more along the way. Also a chance to pad the W-L record. More good stuff.

I hope you can find a way to watch a replay of this game, Catfish. It was some kind of fun to watch!
 

Cardsfanstl

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Jan 22, 2009
Posts
3,239
Reaction score
786
Location
St. Louis
Just for Shiggs and Gittles---without Googling---how many of the bands/song artists of the following songs can you come up with?

1. Start Me Up
2. Stand By Me
3. Ready or Not Here I Come
4. Whipping Post
5. Kind of a Drag
6. Sir Duke
7. I Know Him So Well
8. Crosstown Traffic
9. Southern Cross---Crosby, Stills and Nash (gave it away)
10. Celebrate Good Times
11. A Taste of Honey---Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass:band:


I can only guess one which I figure most everybody will know.

Start me up - Rolling Stones
 
Joined
Nov 15, 2002
Posts
13,301
Reaction score
1,175
Location
SE Valley
Just for Shiggs and Gittles---without Googling---how many of the bands/song artists of the following songs can you come up with?

1. Start Me Up
2. Stand By Me
3. Ready or Not Here I Come
4. Whipping Post
5. Kind of a Drag
6. Sir Duke
7. I Know Him So Well
8. Crosstown Traffic
9. Southern Cross---Crosby, Stills and Nash (gave it away)
10. Celebrate Good Times
11. A Taste of Honey---Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass:band:

1. Rolling Stones
2. Ben E. King
3. The Jacksons (?)
4. Allman Brothers
5. The Kinks
6. Stevie Wonder
7. (?) I have no idea.
8. Jimi Hendrix
9. C S N - given
10. Kool and the Gang
11. Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass - given
 
OP
OP
Mitch

Mitch

Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Posts
13,405
Reaction score
2,982
Location
Wrentham, MA
1. Rolling Stones
2. Ben E. King
3. The Jacksons (?)
4. Allman Brothers
5. The Kinks
6. Stevie Wonder
7. (?) I have no idea.
8. Jimi Hendrix
9. C S N - given
10. Kool and the Gang
11. Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass - given

This is a GREAT effort!

All correct---except:

3. The Delfonics---Ready or Not Here I Come
5. The Buckinghams---Kind of a Drag
7. Whitney Houston---I Know Him So Well

Spans 4-5 decades---so total kudos to you CardLogic!!!
 

DemsMyBoys

ASFN Icon
Joined
Nov 18, 2008
Posts
12,375
Reaction score
4,656
Location
Cave Creek
11. Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass - given

Beatles did a cover of that one. Not wonderful.

Since Mitch posted this I have been thinking about what a great theme song "The Lonely Bull" would be if the guys can actually get it together for a Super Bowl run.

Us against everyone saying, "Put a fork in it. Blah, blah, blah." And we keep winning. "The Lonely Bull" (us) against everyone saying we can't do it (them).

Ah... to sleep perchance to dream....
 
Last edited:
Top