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Betting on the NFL should be forbidden, but I think it's silly to suspend these guys for betting on other sports, or in the team facility/hotel.

It’s absurd. And it will be interest to see what happens when a marquee star gets suspended for gambling. Fans will be irate
 

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It’s absurd. And it will be interest to see what happens when a marquee star gets suspended for gambling. Fans will be irate
Like when a marquee star...cough cough DHop...gets popped for PEDs? Some rules may be dumb, but they are the rules and honestly not hard to follow.
 

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Like when a marquee star...cough cough DHop...gets popped for PEDs? Some rules may be dumb, but they are the rules and honestly not hard to follow.
Rules should be sensible as to protect the organization and the player at the same time. Not arbitrary.

The rules have been well publicized. Ignorance is no excuse.
Well publicized, but ignorance alone isn't the only problem. Wifi and cell towers can have all kinds of effects on where your phone thinks you're placing a bet from. Geofencing can be pretty damned accurate, but it still fails, and at what point do you know if you're completely off property or not?

If a player has dinner across the street from their hotel and is "off property," but connects to their wifi because of an automatic connection, and bets on NCAA women's tennis, is that really worth a 6-game suspension?

Flatly, the logic says absolutely not. The "rules?" Of course, that is a transgression of the highest order.
 

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Here's more details on Isaiah Rogers....he bet on his team....and then made an out of character prop bet on a teammate during a game....$1000 prop bet, when his normal betting was $24-$50. This is why they have rules...now this looks like a potential deliberate situation to maybe alter the outcome of a game.

 

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Rules should be sensible as to protect the organization and the player at the same time. Not arbitrary.


Well publicized, but ignorance alone isn't the only problem. Wifi and cell towers can have all kinds of effects on where your phone thinks you're placing a bet from. Geofencing can be pretty damned accurate, but it still fails, and at what point do you know if you're completely off property or not?

If a player has dinner across the street from their hotel and is "off property," but connects to their wifi because of an automatic connection, and bets on NCAA women's tennis, is that really worth a 6-game suspension?

Flatly, the logic says absolutely not. The "rules?" Of course, that is a transgression of the highest order.
There's nothing arbitrary about PED and gambling rules ...they are pretty black and white. What may make them seem arbitrary is the fact that decisions can be appealed, per the CBA and the initial punishment can be changed.
 

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There's nothing arbitrary about PED and gambling rules ...they are pretty black and white. What may make them seem arbitrary is the fact that decisions can be appealed, per the CBA and the initial punishment can be changed.
Betting on the NFL in any capacity, they get what they are coming to them. NFL players betting on cricket in Sri Lanka and Australia. Nah.
 

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Betting on the NFL in any capacity, they get what they are coming to them. NFL players betting on cricket in Sri Lanka and Australia. Nah.
They are allowed to do that...just not at any team facility or hotel, while travelling...lol Again, it's not that hard or arbitrary.
 

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They are allowed to do that...just not at any team facility or hotel, while travelling...lol Again, it's not that hard or arbitrary.
Except, betting on cricket has nothing to do with the NFL. Again, it's not that hard and it is arbitrary.
 

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Except, betting on cricket has nothing to do with the NFL. Again, it's not that hard and it is arbitrary.
Nothing arbitrary about not allowing gambling of any kind on company property...Also, here's the definition of arbitrary:

based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.


There is nothing random about the gambling rules. Never bet on NFL...if you're gonna gamble on anything else, don't do at work. Simple and not arbitrary.
 

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Nothing arbitrary about not allowing gambling of any kind on company property...Also, here's the definition of arbitrary:

based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.


There is nothing random about the gambling rules. Never bet on NFL...if you're gonna gamble on anything else, don't do at work. Simple and not arbitrary.
Maybe the nfl needs to make it easier for the bright ones.

"Until said time as your nfl retirement id processed you are not allowed to gamble in any way, shape, or form. This includes pools and penny ante poker games"
 

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Nothing arbitrary about not allowing gambling of any kind on company property...Also, here's the definition of arbitrary:

based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.


There is nothing random about the gambling rules. Never bet on NFL...if you're gonna gamble on anything else, don't do at work. Simple and not arbitrary.
What is the reasoning from banning betting on cricket in a hotel room owned by Marriot or Hilton, and not the NFL?
 

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