More trade value: Robbie Ray or Greinke with 1/3 of salary covered?

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(Not including the 2022-26’ deferred payments which the D’Backs are stuck with)

ZG - 35 years old: On pace for 200+ IP for last 6/7 seasons; 2.93 ERA, 0.948 WHIP, 7.24 K/BB (career high), 3.4 WAR

(Let’s say 26-27m of remaining ~80m is covered thru 2021)

RR - 27 years old: Never pitched 200 innings: 3.95 ERA, 1.309 WHIP, 2.79 K/BB, 1.4 WAR

(2.5m remains this year, last Arb-year next season)

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Even at his age this is Greinke by far right?
 

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If it wasn’t for Robbie Ray’s command issues, I would go with Ray.
Then again you could say the same thing about Greinke’s contract being a hindrance.
I will go with Greinke having more trade value.
 

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There is zero reason to pay ANY of Greinke's contract. He is performing at or above value, so no need to pay anything. We should get prospects back if that trade is done
 
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There is zero reason to pay ANY of Greinke's contract. He is performing at or above value, so no need to pay anything. We should get prospects back if that trade is done

High salary players rarely get traded and when they do the team usually covers some of the salary; Verlander, Fielder, Hamels, Stanton etc.
 

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High salary players rarely get traded and when they do the team usually covers some of the salary; Verlander, Fielder, Hamels, Stanton etc.

I understand that. Just saying there is no need. If a team like the ATL needs an ace bad enough (they desperately do), squeeze them.
 
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I understand that. Just saying there is no need. If a team like the ATL needs an ace bad enough (they desperately do), squeeze them.

I agree but if squeezing better prospects means paying salary there’s no reason not to do it. You’re improving the future by getting better talent and still saving a boatload of cash despite paying someone not to play for you. I think Hazen would prefer that route it but could see Kendrick viewing it as a bad look and keeping him. They could always trade him in the winter when there’s less salary remaining.
 

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Yeah, I’d pay a portion of Grieke’s contract if it meant a couple blue chip prospects vs a poo poo platter. It’s not like we’re going to make a big push in the next year or 2 anyway.
 

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