Mosley/Mayweather

[azsportsfan01]

Anyone watching this fight. Mosley hit Mayweather harder than he has probably ever been hit in his professional career. Mayweather looked shaky after that hit in the 2nd round. 3rd round was pretty even.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Mayweather looks much stronger in the 4th. Fight pretty much even at this point.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Mosley is looking slow right now, a far cry from what he looked like during that 2nd round.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Mayweather looks to be pulling away right now half way thru the fight.

 

[azsportsfan01]

The way the fight is going I'd be surprised if Mosley makes it all the way. It seems like Mayweather wants to end this soon.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Fight goes the distance, Mayweather wins. After about the 4th round it wasn't much of a fight. Impressed by Mayweather's ability to come back from the big punches he took in the 2nd. Now we have to get the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight now. I don't want to see either fighter take on anyone else. This fight must happen.

 

[Milgod]

I hope the fight does happen but that Mayweather performance was just another special display from the great man. Lets hope Manny can stop juicing for long enough to fight.

 

[Tyler]

boxing makes me yawn. That was 12 rounds of punch followed by a clinch. I personally dont understand the enjoyment of boxing. Give me an MMA fight any day.

 

[Shzm13]

Classic Boreweather win. I like how Mosley hit him in the first round

 

[Milgod]

Classic Boreweather win. I like how Mosley hit him in the first round

If I wanted to see somebody just throw their arms as fast as they can and walk into ounche I would go stand outside a pub on a Friday night (or watch a Manny fight).
Mayweather is an artist. He is a beauty to watch.

As for MMA. I have seen fights were people are on the ground for two minutes straight without barely moving. Talk about boring.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

boxing makes me yawn. That was 12 rounds of punch followed by a clinch. I personally dont understand the enjoyment of boxing. Give me an MMA fight any day.

Why am I not surprised?

Simple minds, simple pleasures.

 

[Shzm13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ3lSzt7klo&feature=related

^Made my night. Canelo ftw

 

[Russ Smith]

If I wanted to see somebody just throw their arms as fast as they can and walk into ounche I would go stand outside a pub on a Friday night (or watch a Manny fight).
Mayweather is an artist. He is a beauty to watch.

As for MMA. I have seen fights were people are on the ground for two minutes straight without barely moving. Talk about boring.

The problem in this fight(watched replay on internet) wasn't really Mayweather it was Mosley. After the 2nd round it was as if Shane just stopped trying to win and just tried to last the fight. He knew he hit Mayweather with a good shot in the 2nd round, he didn't go, and Mosley didn't have the gas to finish him and that was it. SHane is just too old and I suspect his years of PED use have left him pretty stiff because he sure didn't seem anywhere near as athletic as he used to? I still find it hilarious that Mayweather goes off accusing Manny of PED use with no evidence and refuses to fight him and then signs to fight the one guy in his pool of potential opponents that we know for a fact has used PED's, Mosley? The one guy who admitted it under oath(the Balco trial) that he'd done it is the one that Mayweather chose to fight, I assume he made Mosley do the same tests he demanded from Manny although the media didn't seem to talk about it.

I hope they fight, I agree with Skip Bayless(frightening again) that Mosley's face didn't look marred at all despite being hit over and over for the duration of the fight. I just don't think Mayweather has the power to hurt Mosley and it remains to be seen if he has the power to hurt Manny. He's very fast and a terrific boxer but it's not clear to me he's faster than Manny and the difference is Manny can actually hurt Mayweather, so far I don't see any indication the opposite is true.

I really hope they fight but so far nothing has changed, same demands from Mayweather, same counter from Manny.

 

[82CardsGrad]

The problem in this fight(watched replay on internet) wasn't really Mayweather it was Mosley. After the 2nd round it was as if Shane just stopped trying to win and just tried to last the fight. He knew he hit Mayweather with a good shot in the 2nd round, he didn't go, and Mosley didn't have the gas to finish him and that was it. SHane is just too old and I suspect his years of PED use have left him pretty stiff because he sure didn't seem anywhere near as athletic as he used to? I still find it hilarious that Mayweather goes off accusing Manny of PED use with no evidence and refuses to fight him and then signs to fight the one guy in his pool of potential opponents that we know for a fact has used PED's, Mosley? The one guy who admitted it under oath(the Balco trial) that he'd done it is the one that Mayweather chose to fight, I assume he made Mosley do the same tests he demanded from Manny although the media didn't seem to talk about it.

I hope they fight, I agree with Skip Bayless(frightening again) that Mosley's face didn't look marred at all despite being hit over and over for the duration of the fight. I just don't think Mayweather has the power to hurt Mosley and it remains to be seen if he has the power to hurt Manny. He's very fast and a terrific boxer but it's not clear to me he's faster than Manny and the difference is Manny can actually hurt Mayweather, so far I don't see any indication the opposite is true.

I really hope they fight but so far nothing has changed, same demands from Mayweather, same counter from Manny.

This was such a letdown of a fight as it really could've been a great one... There are many factors that led to Mosely getting tight and basically out of gas so early in the fight. For example, they mentioned that prior to the Mayweather fight being confirmed, he had been training to fight Andre Berto. However, the Haiti earthquake hit and Berto had to pull out of the fight with Shane to go home to Haiti to help with the relief effort. Almost immediately then Shane and Floyd put their fight together. I guess Shane never stopped training and so one school of thought is that he over-trained and was essentially shot by the time the fight Saturday night rolled around. I put a lot of credence in this as I have seen this happen many times before. Add in the fact that Shane is 38 and it's not a surprise that he was flat...
Boxing can be a bummer at times for sure... I mean, if you can ever match guys who are the same age (or close) and similar in talent - those make for the true awesome spectacles... (Ali-Frazier, Leonard-Hearns I, Hagler-Hearns, Leonard-Duran I,). If Shane and Floyd had met 3 years ago, it would have been a much more exciting fight. But Floyd is too young and Shane too old to make for an exciting fight to watch.

The only fight left for Floyd is with Manny. There is no other fight worth taking for him. The bottom line is Manny needs to agree to the blood tests. Hell, Shane just did it. Man up and accept the tests Manny. And you will be paid more money than you will ever have made previously for allowing someone to stick a need in your arm a few times... WTF?? Just do it...
I know Manny is getting very involved in politics over in the Phillipines so I wonder if the desire to fight Mayweather is still really there??
I think Floyd showed Saturday night that he remains king of the hill. And for Manny, Floyd would be by far the toughest battle he would ever enter into... It was stunning to see that, while Shane was the naturally bigger and stronger fighter, that Floyd actually made it look the opposite. Floyd appeared to be the stronger, bigger fighter. With Manny, I think this would be amplified as Floyd is already the bigger and stronger fighter. I'm sure that didn't go unnoticed by Manny and Freddie Roach.

Still, I really, really hope it happens! It's really the last hope for a true, great fight any of us will see for quite some time. If they don't put it together, there are no other compelling super-fights out there...

 

[azsportsfan01]

These negotiations will be interesting. Everyone knows Mayweather won't fight outside of Las Vegas because of the lidocaine issue. Last time around Manny's camp didn't push the site issue and didn't have a big chip in the negotiations. I think this time around he is going to use that chip. Also, I believe last time they got close to a cut off date for 14 days or so before the fight. It seems like this should get done. I think they will be fighting sometime around November.

 

[Russ Smith]

These negotiations will be interesting. Everyone knows Mayweather won't fight outside of Las Vegas because of the lidocaine issue. Last time around Manny's camp didn't push the site issue and didn't have a big chip in the negotiations. I think this time around he is going to use that chip. Also, I believe last time they got close to a cut off date for 14 days or so before the fight. It seems like this should get done. I think they will be fighting sometime around November.

Can anybody clarify the lidocaine thing? Last I read was that it's illegal in Nevada now too, it's legal for training but can't be used within a certain number of days of a fight. People seem to be implying that he is still using it during fights?

Also, IIRC Pacquiao's camp offered to have hair tested instead of blood and Mayweathers camp declined? I think it was pointed out at the time Mayweather is bald and thus is won't work but he's bald because he shaves his head, all he has to do is not shave his head close enough to the fight that they have enough hair to sample. As to why I think Manny's camp made the offer, twofold. ONe drugs last in the hair longer than they do in blood or urine. One of the longheld beliefs in sports has been who is more likely to accuse another of cheating than someone who's cheating himself? So if they're both going to be tested, make the tests go months back to make sure NEITHER guy is doing anything. Second, aside from the he doesn't really want to fight Manny suspicions many think this is a power play, if you want this fight you have to agree to MY rules. Manny's camp countered by saying ok but on my terms, you like to shave your head well tough, now you have to let your hair grow long enough to have it drug tested.

I'm pretty pessimistic I don't think the fight is going to happen. Manny is involved in politics, Floyd is on reality tv, I don't think Manny really cares about the money and I don't think Floyd really wants the fight he wants to retire undefeated.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Can anybody clarify the lidocaine thing? Last I read was that it's illegal in Nevada now too, it's legal for training but can't be used within a certain number of days of a fight. People seem to be implying that he is still using it during fights?

Also, IIRC Pacquiao's camp offered to have hair tested instead of blood and Mayweathers camp declined? I think it was pointed out at the time Mayweather is bald and thus is won't work but he's bald because he shaves his head, all he has to do is not shave his head close enough to the fight that they have enough hair to sample. As to why I think Manny's camp made the offer, twofold. ONe drugs last in the hair longer than they do in blood or urine. One of the longheld beliefs in sports has been who is more likely to accuse another of cheating than someone who's cheating himself? So if they're both going to be tested, make the tests go months back to make sure NEITHER guy is doing anything. Second, aside from the he doesn't really want to fight Manny suspicions many think this is a power play, if you want this fight you have to agree to MY rules. Manny's camp countered by saying ok but on my terms, you like to shave your head well tough, now you have to let your hair grow long enough to have it drug tested.

I'm pretty pessimistic I don't think the fight is going to happen. Manny is involved in politics, Floyd is on reality tv, I don't think Manny really cares about the money and I don't think Floyd really wants the fight he wants to retire undefeated.

As far as I know lidocaine is only legal when prescribed by a physician in Nevada. In other states it is flat out illegal. I have heard that in Nevada you are allowed to use lidocaine up until a week out of the fight.

 

[CaptTurbo]

Mosely did the only thing he could do. He is like 36 right? He had to come out and go for the win in the first 3 rounds. And he almost did it!

Mosely is a great.

Manny will destroy Mayweather. Bank on it. If that was Manny getting those shots in the second you wouldnt be able to find Mayweathers head.

 

[CaptTurbo]

Oh and in the news Manny has softened his stance and will give blood up to 14 days before the fight.

I think because he knows he can beat Mayweather after seeing the Mosely fight.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Mosely did the only thing he could do. He is like 36 right? He had to come out and go for the win in the first 3 rounds. And he almost did it!

Mosely is a great.

Manny will destroy Mayweather. Bank on it. If that was Manny getting those shots in the second you wouldnt be able to find Mayweathers head.

Mosely is 38...

 

[CaptTurbo]

Mosely is 38...

Thought so but wasnt sure so I went with the under.

Even more reason that Mosely only had 9 good minutes in him tops.

But do not mistake. Floyd is an all time great and maybe the fastest ever and Mosley was able to keep up for quite a while speed wise at 38. It was an incredible performance from a speed perspective by a 38 year old.

 

[Russ Smith]

Oh and in the news Manny has softened his stance and will give blood up to 14 days before the fight.

I think because he knows he can beat Mayweather after seeing the Mosely fight.

Yep i'm hopeful that will break the logjam.