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Trade down with Cleveland (swap of 1st rounders and we get there 2nd rounder, #37)

#7 Roy Williams - after blazing time of 4.37 on a slow track at the UT pro-day, some speculate the Raiders will take him at #2, however I still think the Raiders are looking at Fitz. We already have Boldin, and Kasper as not-that-fast guys, and I haven't seen much from McAddley to think he will be the number three. I like BJ, but don't think he has quite the speed we need to stretch the field and open it up underneath for Anquan, Jones and the running game.

#33 Marcus Tubbs - Call me a homer, but he's prolly the 2nd best anchor tackle in the draft. If we take Wilfolk in round one, then go wide reciever here, but since I like RW better than Wilfolk in the first, i'll take Tubbs here, unless of course Wilfolk test positive for marijuana and drops to 2nd round. ;)

#37 Ricardo Colclough - Small school standout, but many think he may be the best corner in the draft. Will fall because of level of competition, much like a former Cardinal great, CB Williams (3rd Southern).


#64 Michael Turner - Was supposed to be fast entering his senior year, he seems to have dropped out of site for some reason. Looking at what he did at the tail end of the year was pretty impressive. I'd like to grab him here depending on his 40 times (4.55 or lower).


Thats as far as I have for now. Will do some more research and post more later. Thoughts?? Comments?? Criticisms??
 

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HookemCards said:
Trade down with Cleveland (swap of 1st rounders and we get there 2nd rounder, #37)

#7 Roy Williams - after blazing time of 4.37 on a slow track at the UT pro-day, some speculate the Raiders will take him at #2, however I still think the Raiders are looking at Fitz. We already have Boldin, and Kasper as not-that-fast guys, and I haven't seen much from McAddley to think he will be the number three. I like BJ, but don't think he has quite the speed we need to stretch the field and open it up underneath for Anquan, Jones and the running game.

#33 Marcus Tubbs - Call me a homer, but he's prolly the 2nd best anchor tackle in the draft. If we take Wilfolk in round one, then go wide reciever here, but since I like RW better than Wilfolk in the first, i'll take Tubbs here, unless of course Wilfolk test positive for marijuana and drops to 2nd round. ;)

#37 Ricardo Colclough - Small school standout, but many think he may be the best corner in the draft. Will fall because of level of competition, much like a former Cardinal great, CB Williams (3rd Southern).


#64 Michael Turner - Was supposed to be fast entering his senior year, he seems to have dropped out of site for some reason. Looking at what he did at the tail end of the year was pretty impressive. I'd like to grab him here depending on his 40 times (4.55 or lower).


Thats as far as I have for now. Will do some more research and post more later. Thoughts?? Comments?? Criticisms??


I think Roy Williams isz the most overrated player in the top half of the draft. Needless to say I would be very disappointed in this draft. sorry!

Maybe later on I will post the "All-UNLV" mock draft. I am sure there are plenty on here who can post an All-ASU mock as well.

Ya know, there are players outside of Texas and Nebraska that are supposedly pretty good! :D
 

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HookemCards said:
#64 Michael Turner - Was supposed to be fast entering his senior year, he seems to have dropped out of site for some reason. Looking at what he did at the tail end of the year was pretty impressive. I'd like to grab him here depending on his 40 times (4.55 or lower).

Yeah, we already have this guy, and his name's Marcel Shipp. We don't need another. No, thanks. Take Tatum Bell.
 
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I think Roy Williams isz the most overrated player in the top half of the draft. Needless to say I would be very disappointed in this draft. sorry!

Maybe later on I will post the "All-UNLV" mock draft. I am sure there are plenty on here who can post an All-ASU mock as well.

Ya know, there are players outside of Texas and Nebraska that are supposedly pretty good! :D

I know you think he is over-rated. You've mentioned it numerous times. But I still think that 70 catches for over 1000 yds on a team with two other NFL caliber recievers, that ran over 60 percent of the time is pretty good. Not to mention a RB that had 21 TDs and a RS Freshman QB that has a cannon for an arm but has terrible mechanics at this point in his career.

As for there being players outside of Texas, I agree, thats why I mentioned Wilfolk as a possibility in round 1. And I wouldn't draft Vasher any higher than round 4.
 
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SECTION 11 said:
Hookem, wait 'til Freak gets a hold of your seventh round pick. Then you'll really see some input.

I've already determined my 7th round pick if we don't draft Williams and he ends up in Seattle, St. Louis, or Sf.........and it is Greg Davis, OC, Texas - his claim to fame is he is the only person to be able to consistantly contain RW. :p
 
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I'm still battered and woosy over defending Kabongo. That was all I could muster.

I may put Kabongo in my mock in the 6th round, not that he did anything that stood out, but only for shock value.
 

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I know you think he is over rated. You've mentioned it numerous times. But I still think that 70 catches for over 1000 yds on a team with two other NFL caliber recievers, that ran over 60 percent of the time is pretty good. Not to mention a RB that had 21 TDs and a RS Freshman QB that has a cannon for an arm but has terrible mechanics at this point in his career.

As for there being players outside of Texas, I agree, thats why I mentioned Wilfolk as a possibility in round 1. And I wouldn't draft Vasher any higher than round 4.


Really Vasher not until round 4? I knew he dropped quite a bit but I think he would be a steal in round 3 or 4.

As far as RW goes, he is a very good wr. I dont question that, what I do question is the way he plays. He has great size and speed but seems, to me, to shy away from contact and would rather *****-foot around instead of using his size and strength to go up for the ball. That to me spells B-U-S-T potential.

Having watched them, I am assuming quite a bit, you would know much more about him. I did watch Texas play 4 games this year -albeit one was the OU disaster- and didnt like what I saw.
 

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I'm still battered and woosy over defending Kabongo. That was all I could muster.

Yeah I know it would take a lot out of someone trying to defend that guy! I mean really, whats to defend?? :D

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Really Vasher not until round 4? I knew he dropped quite a bit but I think he would be a steal in round 3 or 4.

As far as RW goes, he is a very good wr. I dont question that, what I do question is the way he plays. He has great size and speed but seems, to me, to shy away from contact and would rather *****-foot around instead of using his size and strength to go up for the ball. That to me spells B-U-S-T potential.

Having watched them, I am assuming quite a bit, you would know much more about him. I did watch Texas play 4 games this year -albeit one was the OU disaster- and didnt like what I saw.

The biggest problem he had this year was he basically had two patterns to run. The fly route, and the one yard out. Early in his career, that one yd out went for big yards, so the OC decided to make him run it on 60 percent of the plays, this year it caught upto him as everyone was prepared for it. It also led to him "*****-footing around" since he was being tackled by DL and LB at the LOS instead of CB and safeties downfield. I don't recall the game, but it was late in the year, he caught one of the 1 yd hitches and made the first guy miss and ended up being tackled 20 yds down the field, but the first guy hit him 10 yds down the field, and when he finally went down it took 5 guys. He's a beast, has great leaping ability, speed, hands and strength. Another thing that he does very well due to Texas' offensive style this year is block down field on running plays, he's one of the best blocking WRs in the draft.
 

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SECTION 11 said:
I'm still battered and woosy over defending Kabongo. That was all I could muster.
Sorry I missed that, 11, I couldn't imagine anyone having the ability to actually defend the Bongman. Nice kid, large individual, but not in any shape or form a defensive player and asking him to learn a position that is arguable much more mental at the highest level is really unrealistic. Let him go to Europe and learn his trade. If he magically develops quickly, then you take a chance on him. Too many other players out there that at the very least could make an impact on special teams.
 

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I don't know why so many like Roy Williams. He and his Horn teammates were 0-4 against OU. I think he is a 1st. rounder but I like others better than him at number 3 or 7. I think Tubbs is very overrated and too heavy. None of us know anything about Colclough because we have never seen him play. Turner is o.k. and a good value in round 4, because many rb's tend to fall to early day 2. I would give your early mock a C-.
 
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I don't know why so many like Roy Williams. He and his Horn teammates were 0-4 against OU. I think he is a 1st. rounder but I like others better than him at number 3 or 7. I think Tubbs is very overrated and too heavy. None of us know anything about Colclough because we have never seen him play. Turner is o.k. and a good value in round 4, because many rb's tend to fall to early day 2. I would give your early mock a C-.

Alot of people like Roy Williams cause he is a fantastic athlete and great WR. As Card fans, we should all know the effect that poor coaching has on games. Most of the OU/Texas games were lost before the teams ever hit the field because of poor motivation and game planning on the part of the Texas coaches. Alot of people were also down on Chris Simms last year, and the latest rumor is that Gruden is thrilled with the progress he's made and may get a chance to start sometime this year. As far as Tubbs being too heavy, thats exactly what we need on the d-line, we already have 3 under tackles on the roster, but none are capable of anchoring against the run and collapsing the pocket. The best we have at that is Tanner, but he is much better as a back up.
 

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As far as Tubbs being too heavy, thats exactly what we need on the d-line, we already have 3 under tackles on the roster, but none are capable of anchoring against the run and collapsing the pocket. The best we have at that is Tanner, but he is much better as a back up.

Marcus Bell is supposed to be a very good 2-Gap DT, but hasn't really broken out. He can play the nose, but the light hasn't seen to switch on for him yet. He has the size and strength to be a difference-maker in the middle. I don't know what's wrong with him, maybe it's just the Joe Green Effect.

With good coaching and weight training, Bell-Bryant can be the best DT pairing in the NFC West. The talent is there, it's just a question of desire and scheme.
 

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