My thoughts about why the Cards lose close games

[40yearfan]

I'm sure everyone has heard about the power of prayer or positive thinking and there is documented evidence that it does seem to have an effect on the outcome of some endeavors. I'm not a religious person, but I do believe positive thinking, especially by a whole group can be a powerful influence on the outcome of a situation.

That being said, I also believe that negative thinking by a large group can affect the outcome of an endeavor in a negative way. How many people on this board thought "Oh no, here we go again" when the Cards kicked the ball back to the Niners with 3 minutes left on the clock? How many people on this board predicted a Cardinal loss before the game even started? Do we unconciously project these thoughts which get into the minds of the players and create doubt in their minds?

The human brain is a powerful thing and one which we understand very little about. Maybe at one time in the distant past, we had a collective mindset (ants, bees) and still have some of that that we unconciously project.

Now darksiders, don't go off half-cocked and think this only pertains to you. If you are a Cardinals fan, you can't help but expect a problem to develope because that's what happens 9 times out of 10. 20 or 30 thousand people all thinking the same thing at the same time might be enough to actually create the problem you are afraid will happen.

We've all been looking for scapegoats to blame the years of losing. Maybe we need to look in the mirror?

 

[traveler]

You need to watch The Secret. The power of positive thinking is incredible. I use it every day. If you don't know about it, rent the movie and learn. Don't be surprised if your thoughts land on deaf ears here. I definitely believe it contributes greatly to the team's trouble.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

I'm sure everyone has heard about the power of prayer or positive thinking and there is documented evidence that it does seem to have an effect on the outcome of some endeavors. I'm not a religious person, but I do believe positive thinking, especially by a whole group can be a powerful influence on the outcome of a situation.

That being said, I also believe that negative thinking by a large group can affect the outcome of an endeavor in a negative way. How many people on this board thought "Oh no, here we go again" when the Cards kicked the ball back to the Niners with 3 minutes left on the clock? How many people on this board predicted a Cardinal loss before the game even started? Do we unconciously project these thoughts which get into the minds of the players and create doubt in their minds?

The human brain is a powerful thing and one which we understand very little about. Maybe at one time in the distant past, we had a collective mindset (ants, bees) and still have some of that that we unconciously project.

Now darksiders, don't go off half-cocked and think this only pertains to you. If you are a Cardinals fan, you can't help but expect a problem to develope because that's what happens 9 times out of 10. 20 or 30 thousand people all thinking the same thing at the same time might be enough to actually create the problem you are afraid will happen.

We've all been looking for scapegoats to blame the years of losing. Maybe we need to look in the mirror?

I don't believe any negative effect needs to be preceded by an equivalent cause.

 

[jefftheshark]

I'm sure everyone has heard about the power of prayer or positive thinking and there is documented evidence that it does seem to have an effect on the outcome of some endeavors. I'm not a religious person, but I do believe positive thinking, especially by a whole group can be a powerful influence on the outcome of a situation.

That being said, I also believe that negative thinking by a large group can affect the outcome of an endeavor in a negative way. How many people on this board thought "Oh no, here we go again" when the Cards kicked the ball back to the Niners with 3 minutes left on the clock? How many people on this board predicted a Cardinal loss before the game even started? Do we unconciously project these thoughts which get into the minds of the players and create doubt in their minds?

The human brain is a powerful thing and one which we understand very little about. Maybe at one time in the distant past, we had a collective mindset (ants, bees) and still have some of that that we unconciously project.

Now darksiders, don't go off half-cocked and think this only pertains to you. If you are a Cardinals fan, you can't help but expect a problem to develope because that's what happens 9 times out of 10. 20 or 30 thousand people all thinking the same thing at the same time might be enough to actually create the problem you are afraid will happen.

We've all been looking for scapegoats to blame the years of losing. Maybe we need to look in the mirror?

Nice try Eric, but you should have fallen on the damn ball anyway.


JTS

 

[40yearfan]

I don't believe any negative effect needs to be preceded by an equivalent cause.

That's not the point. You are right. A negative effect doesn't need to be proceded by a cause, but that doesn't preclude it from being affected by an outside influence.

 

[Osbern61]

If negative thinking by the populace of NFL fans caused the Cards to lose, I don't think we would have won a game in the last 30 years. Now negative thinking by the player's subconcious is another story.

 

[MrYeahBut]

That's not the point. You are right. A negative effect doesn't need to be proceded by a cause, but that doesn't preclude it from being affected by an outside influence.

How is it possible to have an effect w/o a cause?

 

[AZCB34]

I guess we have pointed out every issue there was with the team and the FO that builds it so now it is time to blame the very tortured fans who have to be witness to the catastrophes?

I, for one, fully expected them to make a defensive play that would seal the deal all the way to the end...I thought this team was different and I still happen to believe they are different.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

How is it possible to have an effect w/o a cause?

I think you need to watch this little video, on Quantam Physics, Dr Quantum - Double Slit Experiment. It shows you the power that observation really has

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc&mode=related&search=

 

[DieHardCardFan]

40yearfan - This is a very good point and one that makes sense at least to me. Everything is made up of energy, and focused energy has an effect on things. Just like you said about the prayer chains, no one can explain it but there is evidence of them having an affect.

Regardless of what people say on here, I think you might be onto something.

 

[SECTION 11]

You need to watch The Secret. The power of positive thinking is incredible. I use it every day. If you don't know about it, rent the movie and learn. Don't be surprised if your thoughts land on deaf ears here. I definitely believe it contributes greatly to the team's trouble.

Dude, didn't you post a thread that we shouldn't even play this game?

Do we need a thread on the power of completely conflicting points of view?


"in april i posted and was ignored that this was probably our worst draft ever. well, we got levi and he may be ok, but das ist alles. an idiot could have drafted better. levi is way over paid because of his being drafted too high. this will have repurcussions for years. you have to have more than one keeper in a draft. this, a rebuilding year with a new coach, is a major set back."

"this offseason and the draft were the worst ever. The blather on this site about the 1 and 2 draft choices who will now be starters was unbelievable. The offensive line, which was gelling the second half of the season is now gone. The bright spot of Lechey will not play the the horrible guard is now back there from right tackle. Clancy, the run stopper is gone. There still is no speed receiver and Shipp is our answer if James goes south. This is a rebuilding year again folks no matter how you paint it. Tell me how I'm wrong."

 

[ajcardfan]

Dude, didn't you post a thread that we shouldn't even play this game?

Do we need a thread on the power of completely conflicting points of view?


"in april i posted and was ignored that this was probably our worst draft ever. well, we got levi and he may be ok, but das ist alles. an idiot could have drafted better. levi is way over paid because of his being drafted too high. this will have repurcussions for years. you have to have more than one keeper in a draft. this, a rebuilding year with a new coach, is a major set back."

"this offseason and the draft were the worst ever. The blather on this site about the 1 and 2 draft choices who will now be starters was unbelievable. The offensive line, which was gelling the second half of the season is now gone. The bright spot of Lechey will not play the the horrible guard is now back there from right tackle. Clancy, the run stopper is gone. There still is no speed receiver and Shipp is our answer if James goes south. This is a rebuilding year again folks no matter how you paint it. Tell me how I'm wrong."

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[RonF]

So far, none of you positive thinkers (telekinetic) have raised my hand.

 

[conraddobler]

My grandpa used to say you can wish in one hand and .... in the other.

That's all I have to say about this topic.

 

[Russ Smith]

You need to watch The Secret. The power of positive thinking is incredible. I use it every day. If you don't know about it, rent the movie and learn. Don't be surprised if your thoughts land on deaf ears here. I definitely believe it contributes greatly to the team's trouble.

true I remember the great negative thought slump of 1998 and look what happened, playoff berth.

 

[red desert]

Nice try Eric, but you should have fallen on the damn ball anyway.


JTS

That was funny.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'll tell you the secret. Come up with some theory, market it correctly, have people buy into it, and there's your secret. The secret to becoming rich.

 

[40yearfan]

How is it possible to have an effect w/o a cause?

I didn't make myself clear. A negative effect doesn't have to be caused by a negative action.

The case in question----the mainly Niner crowd in the stadium felt that the Niners could overcome the odds and score which put a positive feeling in the minds of their players and that coupled with our negative thoughts affected the outcome (possibly).

 

[freebyrd]

well i went back and forth during the game but on the last drive by san fran i was saying to myself over and over were gonna win this thing, guess my thoughts didn't project all the way to the bay

 

[slanidrac16]

I GOT IT! We split into 31 equal size groups and assign each group 1of the 31 opposing teams. Super bowl here we come.

It's not the negative thoughts that cause us to lose. It's the losses that give us the negative thoughts.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm going to try and start a positive thought for people to join in on. If we get enough "positive" vibes maybe it will happen. I'm positive that i want the Cardinals to hire a new GM . Who's with me? Let's get the vibe going to MB.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I agree, it's obvious that we are the cause of this team losing...


This is your funniest stuff yet 40, kudos to you.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I'm sure everyone has heard about the power of prayer or positive thinking and there is documented evidence that it does seem to have an effect on the outcome of some endeavors. I'm not a religious person, but I do believe positive thinking, especially by a whole group can be a powerful influence on the outcome of a situation.

That being said, I also believe that negative thinking by a large group can affect the outcome of an endeavor in a negative way. How many people on this board thought "Oh no, here we go again" when the Cards kicked the ball back to the Niners with 3 minutes left on the clock? How many people on this board predicted a Cardinal loss before the game even started? Do we unconciously project these thoughts which get into the minds of the players and create doubt in their minds?

The human brain is a powerful thing and one which we understand very little about. Maybe at one time in the distant past, we had a collective mindset (ants, bees) and still have some of that that we unconciously project.

Now darksiders, don't go off half-cocked and think this only pertains to you. If you are a Cardinals fan, you can't help but expect a problem to develope because that's what happens 9 times out of 10. 20 or 30 thousand people all thinking the same thing at the same time might be enough to actually create the problem you are afraid will happen.

We've all been looking for scapegoats to blame the years of losing. Maybe we need to look in the mirror?

Based on this thinking..........Everyone image me with millions upon millions of dollars.

Do it! Now!

IF it works then we can use this stunt next week.

 

[traveler]

Dude, didn't you post a thread that we shouldn't even play this game?

Do we need a thread on the power of completely conflicting points of view?


"in april i posted and was ignored that this was probably our worst draft ever. well, we got levi and he may be ok, but das ist alles. an idiot could have drafted better. levi is way over paid because of his being drafted too high. this will have repurcussions for years. you have to have more than one keeper in a draft. this, a rebuilding year with a new coach, is a major set back."

"this offseason and the draft were the worst ever. The blather on this site about the 1 and 2 draft choices who will now be starters was unbelievable. The offensive line, which was gelling the second half of the season is now gone. The bright spot of Lechey will not play the the horrible guard is now back there from right tackle. Clancy, the run stopper is gone. There still is no speed receiver and Shipp is our answer if James goes south. This is a rebuilding year again folks no matter how you paint it. Tell me how I'm wrong."

Dude; I normally don't reply to such ignorant posts but here goes. Everything I said in my previous post contributed to the Cardinal's loss. Would a speed receiver have stretched the field? Would a return man have helped instead of that slow paced antelope we have? The Secret is not used for such important things like football. If you found it you might not have so much time for football research, Dude.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Don't be surprised if your thoughts land on deaf ears here.

If you found it you might not have so much time for football research, Dude.

WOW!

How long does it take to get off a horse that tall ?

Section 11 actually comes here very rarely these days because he is so busy getting whatever it is he has to get done, done.

And no, the Cardinals didn't lose based on your assumptions. Actually the things you list had nothing to do with the loss in my little opinion.

I had more to say, but whatever........I am happy you found something to "better yourself" Just don't go around judging others based on your new found empowerment.