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Illinois vs North Carolina

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Should be a great game - GO ILLINI!!!
 

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Illinios will win if they can control the tempo.if NC can run on them, thy will win.
 

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Come on Illinois!

If the Illini win, I get 200 bucks, if UNC wins, I get nada... :D
 

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Chaplin said:
Come on Illinois!

If the Illini win, I get 200 bucks, if UNC wins, I get nada... :D

My wife is in the same boat...$250 if Illinois wins, zippo if UNC wins.

GO ILLINOIS!!!
 

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If Illinois wins I finish 5th in my pool because so many guys had 5 entries(we used the ESPN contest and I didn't catch you could enter 5 times).

I think the key is will UNC play defense, they've been terrible defensively at times in the tournament, Michigan State would inbound after made baskets and get easy shots downcourt. BUt UNC has a distinct size advantage inside on Illinois that could be troubling.

I also wonder if Illinois can wear down Felton, Brown is the rare opponent who's just as quick as Felton is, he might be able to draw a charge or two.

The big thing I see is Illinois has to be patient and move the ball, UNC has shown repeatedly if you make them play defense for long stretches you will get good shots. hell Wisconin went over 80 on them because UNC gets bored on defense. And whoever McCants guards needs to attack him early and often, he absolutely turns it off and on throughout the game.
 

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13 points down at the half, mark this down......UNC will get into deeper foul trouble and the Illini will nail 3's and win the National Title.
 

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11/28 3 point attempts.. that speaks volumes of Illini.. no fundamentals...


UNC baby!
 

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Down with Illinois!!!

MUHAHAHAHA!!!!

Man...Why couldnt Illinois have bricked all those shots at the end against Arizona?!?!?!
 

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black said:
13 points down at the half, mark this down......UNC will get into deeper foul trouble and the Illini will nail 3's and win the National Title.
Go UNC!!! :D
 

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UNC would have won by 20 if the refs didn't let the Illini frontcourt mug the Heels defenders on screens.

Congrats to Roy. As much as I have disliked the guy over the years due to the many battles both in recruiting and on the court between Arizona and Kansas, he's nothing but a class act and a great coach who did not deserve all the crap he got over the years.
 
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We will be back, congrats to UNC they beat a very good team.:(
 
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MaoTosiFanClub said:
UNC would have won by 20 if the refs didn't let the Illini frontcourt mug the Heels defenders on screens.

Get real - you must be drinking the same koolaid poured out by the CBS announcing staff. If the refs would not have been sniffing Sean May's jock all game, the Illini would have won by 20.

Sean May got away with charges, traveling (one so blatant the even Billy PACC-ker mentioned it. And Illini players got called for so many little touch fouls it was pathetic. And how about Roger Powell getting hacked on three straight shot attempts under the basket with no call.
 
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Gee! said:
11/28 3 point attempts.. that speaks volumes of Illini.. no fundamentals...


UNC baby!

Bitter kitty fans.......

Illinois plays great fundamental basketball - they play as a real team.
 

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An Illini fan complaining about the refs. How predictable and sad. I guess that's what happens when you're an 0-fer in NC's in 100 years of college basketball. I'm an Arizona fan and was watching the game with an ASU fan and we both said the game was called fairly (if not in Illinois' favor). It's not the refs fault you lost, blame your soft frontcourt and your reliance upon jacking up threes like the And 1 mix tape squad.
 
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MaoTosiFanClub said:
An Illini fan complaining about the refs. How predictable and sad. I guess that's what happens when you're an 0-fer in NC's in 100 years of college basketball. I'm an Arizona fan and was watching the game with an ASU fan and we both said the game was called fairly (if not in Illinois' favor). It's not the refs fault you lost, blame your soft frontcourt and your reliance upon jacking up threes like the And 1 mix tape squad.


Most wins without a NC, baby!

Not the refs fault, but it didn't help. Poor shot selection in the first half was the biggest problem, along with all the touch fouls called on Augustine/Ingram.

But to think it was called even slightly in Illinois favor??? What are you smoking?
 

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Dback Jon said:
Bitter kitty fans.......

Illinois plays great fundamental basketball - they play as a real team.
Ya ok. Whats Illini's favorite play they call? The 3 point shot! LMFAO! Ive never seen a team shoot more 3's ever. Not in just one game but an entire season. UNC pounded the ball inside, gaurded Illini close on the arc to alter their favorite play. It was pathetic actually. You should thank the refs for allowing you guys to be so close in the game.
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
blame your soft frontcourt and your reliance upon jacking up threes like the And 1 mix tape squad.
LMFAO - classic
 

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This just in:
The Fighting Illini just attempted another 3 point shot.

:D
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
UNC would have won by 20 if the refs didn't let the Illini frontcourt mug the Heels defenders on screens.

Congrats to Roy. As much as I have disliked the guy over the years due to the many battles both in recruiting and on the court between Arizona and Kansas, he's nothing but a class act and a great coach who did not deserve all the crap he got over the years.

Agreed even though Packer was annoying about it, he WAS right those screens were ridiculous. That said, after Felton's 4th foul not once but twice he knocked over Powell running through a screen with no call, so I think they were ignoring screens altogether.

Illinois shot too many 3's, Head and Williams should have been turning the corner at will the way UNC was overplaying to stop the 3. That play Head got picked off by Felton to seal the game was a classic example he had the corner turned but instead of attacking the basket he looked to pass out for a 3, which is precisely what UNC was playing for.
 

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Dback Jon said:
Get real - you must be drinking the same koolaid poured out by the CBS announcing staff. If the refs would not have been sniffing Sean May's jock all game, the Illini would have won by 20.

Sean May got away with charges, traveling (one so blatant the even Billy PACC-ker mentioned it. And Illini players got called for so many little touch fouls it was pathetic. And how about Roger Powell getting hacked on three straight shot attempts under the basket with no call.

May clearly walked but I think the charges were mainly flops, Powell was doing it over and over and I think the refs just decided to punish him and not even call the legit ones.

That sequence under the basket on replay looked clean to me, first block from behind, then scramble for the ball I think Powell was playing to draw the foul instead of to score and that's why he didn't get anything.

I hate the ACC bias as much as the next guy but overall I thought the game was pretty evenly reffed.
 

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I agree the officiating was equally bad for both sides.. Non-calls on illegal screens for Illinois. Ticky-tack calls for Sean May. Thought I was watching NBA refs.
 

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